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#476
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I know may people say oh the Inquisitor he only has one arm we can't play as him again or he can't join us now I agreed with them until I remembered this guy

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#477
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He could have a crossbow like Isabela does in MP



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I said this in another 2 topics: The Inquisitor doesn't always says that, in the ending I got he literally says s/he gonna save the world again.
 
The ending is ambiguous, we can't say for sure that the Inquisitor won't be the protagonist in next game.
 
...and having a chopped arm is hardly a problem in a world like Dragon Age.

The intent is clear, whether the Inquisitor said it in your ending or not. Saying "I'm going to save the world again" doesn't mean they will personally be doing to leg work.

...Okay, name a single character in Dragon Age that has recovered from a lost limb and had it be "hardly a problem". It annoys me that people keep saying "well Dagna could make a magic prosthetic" when there is absolutely no precedent for this type of technology. Yes, the writers could contrive something, they could contrive giving the Inquisitor a dragon arm if they really wanted to, but if they wanted to continue the Inquisitor they would have removed the mark without taking the arm. Instead, they took the arm.

Their intent is unambiguous.
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The Inquisitor is not going to be the protagonist of the next game. That's it. Bioware has said before that they intent to switch protagonists with each game and the Inquisitor will certainly be avoiding fighting on the front lines now that they're short an arm. I don't doubt that they'll probably play some role in the next game (perhaps as some sort of "Big Good") but they will not be the protagonist.
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The Inquisitor is not going to be the protagonist of the next game. That's it. Bioware has said before that they intent to switch protagonists with each game and the Inquisitor will certainly be avoiding fighting on the front lines now that they're short an arm. I don't doubt that they'll probably play some role in the next game (perhaps as some sort of "Big Good") but they will not be the protagonist.

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If Solas is to be redeemed, it will be because the protagonist of the game truly believes he is worthy of redemption. Either you will be playing as the direct avatar of the Inquisitor regardless of whether it is as actually them or not (the agency of your protagonist is leashed to the narrative of your previous protagonist), or they will be forced to retell me a story they spent the better part of a game and dlc establishing. I know life can be redundant, but I deplore it in my narratives.


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My fantasy is that Solas takes the arm and drains the mark magic out of it....I mean the man can create the fade and turn people to stone why not this?

 

 He meets up with Quizzy in the Fade and re-attaches. She wakes up from her dream and freaks out. She has both arms in the real world!


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#483
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I want to say a few words about inquisitor in next game.
More likely s/he will appear. And I think, Inqy must be PC. You choose his character, and he is poor candidate in NPC, whose decision and actions you can't control. Then he has no character at all, or he is different person. Like Hawke, for example. He is unnecessary character in inquisition plot, because he don't play any important role, but when he open mouth, he say things, that can conflict with his choices and character. And, though he has three certain characters, they don't determine this choices. So, inqy as NPC is really bad idea. For example, next part will be aboute opposition with Solas( I hope he won't be forgotten) and he and inqy are friends, and inqy promised to convince him not to do thinks he want to do. Why inquisitor decided to do that? Perhaps, solas disappointed him, but he remember aboute past friendship and don't want to kill him, maybe he is afraid of power, maybe he thinks that solas is the good man who made a mistake, maybe he wants to restore elven glory, but don't accept methods, etc. There are thousands of variants. If inqy would become NPC, he will lose all his motivation and personality.
But, If would become PC, it will be his place, it will be really exciting. Struggle against Solas and inquisitor will be more thrilling, touching. You can meet your old friend. Inqy have the greatest knowledge in thedas a about elfs. Perhaps , he even drunk from the well of sorrow. But he still can make a new friends, he's never been in places we are going to, so it will be interesting.
Inquisitor has great potential as protagonist. In inquisition he is passerby, who got his power by accident. He got mark from solas, inquisition was established by leliana and Cassandra, skyhold he got from solas, operations he did through advisers. He was more likely a symbol, he had a powerful organization. So he can become a real hero. It wouldn't be too much for this person. His work isn't done: they find those responsible, but hasn't yet restore order, and didn't punish the responsible one.
I see no problem that inquisitor has no hand. There is a lyrium, which can support life ( in blooms, for example). They can make golems from it, living creatures. Inqy have genius blacksmiths, you have genius arcanist. Finally, there is magic, blood magic (it can make a man from different pieces).
I don't like the argument, that Solas knows of inquisition methods. Diplomacy based on the same principles everywhere. The same I can say about spies and army. Agents of fen'harel will be watching for inquisition and their people. They will be watching for those, who work against them. So, everyone is in the same conditions.
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#484
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Seems to me the biggest issues is that for many people they are just simply unable to ... let go!   The warden story is over!   Hawke's story is over!   The inquisitors story is now over!   Let em go.    They wouldn't have to keep coming up with reasons why they are not in the next game if people would just let their story end.

 

I much prefer protagonists that simply vanish after their story has been told then trying to live through the nonsensical reasons why godly powerful people are knocked back down to level 1 every game. 


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If Solas will end up being the main villain in next DA game and will face a different protagonist i will be extremely dissapointed.

Whether you hate him or like him he was your companion and If anything the Trespasser's final confrontation just made things even more personal between Inquisitor and him.

 

I'm completely fine with playing different protagonist in next game but i can't see anyone else but Inquisitor delievering the final blow to Solas either killing or redeeming him.


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Seems to me the biggest issues is that for many people they are just simply unable to ... let go!   The warden story is over!   Hawke's story is over!   The inquisitors story is now over!   Let em go.    They wouldn't have to keep coming up with reasons why they are not in the next game if people would just let their story end.

 

I much prefer protagonists that simply vanish after their story has been told then trying to live through the nonsensical reasons why godly powerful people are knocked back down to level 1 every game. 

The issue is that many people feel the Inquisitor's story isn't done because they're going after Solas, who hasn't been stopped.

 

I feel the same, I just don't feel the Inquisitor needs to be the protagonist to get that resolution.


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Seems to me the biggest issues is that for many people they are just simply unable to ... let go!   The warden story is over!   Hawke's story is over!   The inquisitors story is now over!   Let em go.    They wouldn't have to keep coming up with reasons why they are not in the next game if people would just let their story end.

 

I much prefer protagonists that simply vanish after their story has been told then trying to live through the nonsensical reasons why godly powerful people are knocked back down to level 1 every game. 

 

I would have agreed with you before Trespasser, but now the Inquisitor has to stop Solas.  Hell, even the last two choices in the game concern how The Inquisitor and his/her allies are going to deal with him.

 

"We are going to Tevinter and stop Solas" doesn't sound as the end of a story to me...

 

 


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#488
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Says you. I find new protagonist every game a must. Much more room for freedom and creativity.



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The issue is that many people feel the Inquisitor's story isn't done because they're going after Solas, who hasn't been stopped.

 

I feel the same, I just don't feel the Inquisitor needs to be the protagonist to get that resolution.

 

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The Inquisitor is not going to be the protagonist of the next game. That's it. Bioware has said before that they intent to switch protagonists with each game and the Inquisitor will certainly be avoiding fighting on the front lines now that they're short an arm. I don't doubt that they'll probably play some role in the next game (perhaps as some sort of "Big Good") but they will not be the protagonist.

The Inquisitor being the MC in DA4 would be daft for the fact that they themselves state that they need people Solas is unfamiliar with.



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Seems to me the biggest issues is that for many people they are just simply unable to ... let go!   The warden story is over!   Hawke's story is over!   The inquisitors story is now over!   Let em go.    They wouldn't have to keep coming up with reasons why they are not in the next game if people would just let their story end.

 

I much prefer protagonists that simply vanish after their story has been told then trying to live through the nonsensical reasons why godly powerful people are knocked back down to level 1 every game. 

 

See, that's the thing - the Inquisitor doesn't 'simply vanish'.

 

In fact, they give him/her an entirely new arc at the very end of the DLC - and the arc itself might be more important than that with Corypheus. Not only inquisitors have a relationship with Solas (dislike, friendship or romance), who is not just revealed to be an antagonist for future game, but one of the pivotal characters in entire DA story - and THEY say that they're going to either redeem him or kill him; not anyone else. Solas chose THEM as his nemesis or a way for the world to prove itself in his eyes.

 

Then there's the last cutscene past epilogue cards that clearly shows that Quizzy is still 'in the game' - figuratively and literally. They're not sent away to live their life in peace and their story clearly isn't over.

 

You don't use precious resources to write the story that way, if there's no plan to do something with it later. Why even make a concentrated effort to imply that something Quizzy-related is going to happen at all? 

 

 

Warden will never return, because at that time they didn't even know if they'd be able to make the next installment (David Gaider's words) and made the story a bit too complicated to keep HoF as a protagonist. But DAII was set in a way that suggests that initially they planned for Hawke to become Inquisitor. That didn't work out because the game was rushed and not as well received as DAO - yet Hawke still played an important role and appeared in DAI as one of crucial NPCs.

 

So they're obviously working on a way to further implement past protagonists in future games. And more than that - they deemed DAI a game in which they've not only set things straight, but wrote it with more of a consideration to how things will play out in incoming titles.

 

That's not to say that Inquisitor will be the main protagonist - but aside form being an important NPC, they might be controllable PCs in different sections of the game. The DA devs have been noted to express interest in games like GTA5 and being fascinated with the prospect of telling the story with multiple protagonists in a single game. Then there's a roaring success of Witcher 3, which had entire sections in which we controlled (and roleplayed to an extent) a different character, aside from the main one. It can be done. In fact, I really wouldn't be surprised if it WILL be done.

 

 

Also - who said that Inquisitor is knocked back down to level 1? They may have lost an Anchor and an arm, but they are still one of the most influential and powerful people in modern Thedas, with friends in high places and amassed knowledge of both political or arcane nature. That itself makes for a pretty unique protagonist (even if secondary) - not a typical nobody that we start with in most RPGs.


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The Inquisitor is not going to be the protagonist of the next game. That's it. Bioware has said before that they intent to switch protagonists with each game and the Inquisitor will certainly be avoiding fighting on the front lines now that they're short an arm. I don't doubt that they'll probably play some role in the next game (perhaps as some sort of "Big Good") but they will not be the protagonist.

I don't remember reading "the inquisitor will be avoiding fighting on the frontlines" anywhere. And I'm not sure how much it matters, but we have a completely different head writer now, It depends on where he wants to take the narrative. I can imagine that the next game will be dealing with Solas and switching the main character who knows the most and is most capable of defeating Solas away is just weird. Introduce big bad, switch main characters and put the Inquisitor in the background? Ehh...?

 

If Inquisitor's story ended with the main story (minus Trespasser) I'd have no doubt in my mind that was the end of their protagonist career. But after Trespasser... I am on the fence. 

 

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I would have agreed with you before Trespasser, but now the Inquisitor has to stop Solas.  Hell, even the last two choices in the game concern how The Inquisitor and his/her allies are going to deal with him.

 

"We are going to Tevinter and stop Solas" doesn't sound as the end of a story to me...

 

 

"We're going to need to find people Solas doesn't know" does sound like the end of a story to me.  Yes, obviously the Inquisitor will still play a role, but no longer the primary role.  



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"We're going to need to find people Solas doesn't know" does sound like the end of a story to me.  

 

How is that an end of a story, when the task of looking is Inquisitor's job?


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"We're going to need to find people Solas doesn't know" does sound like the end of a story to me.  

 

That quote can mean anything and doesn't exclude the Inquisitor's involment. On the contrary, this one is pretty clear.


 

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Checking in on the "yay new protags!" side. I love having my world state populated by very different perspectives and heros. My Lavellan would hate her world state's canon Hawke, Teagan is friends with the Warden but is suspicious of the Inquisitor...

And goddammit, the Inquisitor is cool, but think of all the awesome possibilities for Tevinter PCs! Magisters! Escaped slaves! Capital-Q Qunari! Fog warriors!

If I had to make a prediction, I think the repeated mentions of Maevaris' and Dorian's reforms are laying the foundation for a magister PC. If so, it would be an interesting reversal of the "mage players are Circle or apostates while rogues and warriors had normal-ish lives" thing from DA:O and DA2.

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If I had to make a prediction, I think the repeated mentions of Maevaris' and Dorian's reforms are laying the foundation for a magister PC. If so, it would be an interesting reversal of the "mage players are Circle or apostates while rogues and warriors had normal-ish lives" thing from DA:O and DA2.

Wouldn't work. Only mages can be magisters. 



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Wow...came back to find I had 25 more Likes on my various posts. And I see someone basically re-posted my Wall O Text as their response. Truly everyone I am flattered. In all my years in this community I've never gotten such positive response from my words lol.


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Do you know what's interesting about the ending of Trespasser?
 
This:
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