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[BansheeOwnage]

It's the Mass Effect 1 Elevator music that makes it great. The elevators are getting their revenge for all the jokes made about them.

Thanks The choice of music was most definitely deliberate.

[CardButton]

By the way ... is there any one in remaining Evanuris our egg head would not tear his throat at first sight, not on top of Solas's a-hole list XD.

I never worry how next PC will stop Solas ... In RPG Games you always find a way to deal with super-strong villain.  

As much as I hope I'm wrong, its probably going to be something like making a deal with Razikale or Lusacan.  I mean as far as the world is aware neither of them have fallen to the blight and remain un-corrupted, locked away somewhere underground.  One is conveniently male and the other is female (actually the only female one out of that pantheon) so if they wanted to use both to match the gender of the DA4 hero they could, and both certainly do have power at their disposal.

 

Though again this doesn't really solve the problem of the Inquisitor (regardless of the setting) simply being a better choice narrativly for PC in DA4, if Solas is indeed going to be the antagonist.  The Inquisitor (regardless of how you played them) just seems to have too much backstory with Solas to simply be relegated to an NPC role and if they do become one there is the very real threat that they would be A. A weak, mostly off screen cameo like Hawke was, or B. Be so important to the overall story of DA4 that you question why the new hero is there in the first place.

 

The only thing I could think of that would make this kind of work would be if you got to hop between both the Inquisitor and DA4's hero (at least a little bit) as the playable character. One dealing with Razikale, the other the dealing with Lusacan, with the end result being a tag-team vs the Dread Wolf. It would keep your Inquisitor active in their pursuit of possible ways of dealing with Solas, while having the new character's existence actually matter (though this only conceivably works if the Tevinter Old Gods are innately weaker than the Evanuris to the point where two dragons would be required to compensate for the difference).

 

Dumb as this idea may be it would certainly make both characters relevant and I'm not feeling imaginative enough to think of anything better atm :3

[spinachdiaper]

With the current state of both of Bioware's two franchises I'd prefer they take a Bethesda/TES approach and jump ahead in the timeline to clean up while refreshing those muddled universes.

[trevelyan_shep]

I don't want to play an armless hero. How would my archer be able to fight? Besides, I want to play someone from Tevinter.

[DarkNova50]

The only advantages to having a new protagonist that I can see are that it offers an entry point for new players to the series, and makes the writing team's job a little easier.

However, as somebody who has played every Dragon Age game, I would very much like to play as my Inquisitor in the next installment. The Hero of Fereldan could be killed in the first game, so I understand her not coming back. I think Hawke could have been written in as the Inquisitor, however BioWare made it clear they wanted to present choice when it came to player character race and background, so I understand why Hawke was written in as an NPC this time around.

But with the Inquisitor, they've got the perfect opportunity to let players bring back their old character. They're alive at the end of Trespasser regardless of choices made, they've got the personal history with the main antagonist already built-in, and ripping enemies apart as a hardcore veteran with only one arm (and possible an artificial one) is enough to open up intimidation options by itself. The characterization is already there, they just need to use it.

 

So yes, I would absolutely love to play as my Dalish rogue again come the next Dragon Age game.

[Cute Nug]

Maybe we could have the (Ex-)Inquisitor do the big missions with whatever new main DA4 companions. The smaller quests could be done with a squad lead by the new protagonist or one of our companions leading a squad of agents. Like Shadows of Mordor nemesis system just not orcish of course and not mind controlled unless the new protagonist is a blood mage like Calpernia.

 

We could have a large group of agents that way they could join on quests but wouldn't be as developed as our main companions which would allow the option to return some favorite characters which might not be alive in everyone's world state as potential squad options for some quests.

[Former_Fiend]

I have no interest in playing as the inquisitor again.

[Dieb]

The answer is fairly simple to me - it simply used to work once, in a transition such as DAO and DA2, with diverse time/place -shifts and overlays at times.

 

Now however, they moved the plot continuity to very direct sequels, so the only sane reason to bring a new protagonist for DA4 is "because it's a thing now".

 

That is why people arguing the Inquisitor/Hawke/HoF will probably not be the protagonist in DA4 are very likely correct - I just think the reason for it is sad.

[tehturian]

I have no interest in playing as the inquisitor again.

This, pretty much. I was never attached to my quizi, especially as I played as a dwarf thus I only got a few token lines to remind me I'm shorter than everyone else. 

 

But that's just my opinion, other people love the Inquisitor,  like people love the Warden or Hawke. Now I don't want to seem childish but why should one set of fans be favorited over the other? 

[Dai Grepher]

I think they should have just kept releasing new adventures for the Hero of Ferelden (or the Orlesian Warden-Commander) on the same engine as Origins and Awakening. I think Hawke would be better liked as a companion character.

[Abyss108]

This, pretty much. I was never attached to my quizi, especially as I played as a dwarf thus I only got a few token lines to remind me I'm shorter than everyone else. 

 

But that's just my opinion, other people love the Inquisitor,  like people love the Warden or Hawke. Now I don't want to seem childish but why should one set of fans be favorited over the other? 

 

Because the vast majority of the people who want the Inquisitor back, only want them back because the plot makes more sense that way. It's not about being "favorited", its about what makes sense for the story.

 

I'm one of the people who doesn't want the warden back and think they were the most boring hero ever imagined, but I would change my mind in an instant if the plot called for it.

[Heimdall]

Because the vast majority of the people who want the Inquisitor back, only want them back because the plot makes more sense that way. It's not about being "favorited", its about what makes sense for the story.

I'm one of the people who doesn't want the warden back and think they were the most boring hero ever imagined, but I would change my mind in an instant if the plot called for it.

Most people who want the Inquisitor back want it because they want the Inquisitor to deal with Solas personally. That's a preference, but it isn't necessarily the best way for the story to go. We don't know that dealing with Solas will be the driving force of DA4. Even if he is, the Inquisitor doesn't need to be the protagonist to confront Solas or be against him.

My favored approach is a Geralt-Ciri-like one. The new PC will be the main controllable character, but there will be points in the plot where we take control of the Inquisitor for brief story focused sequences.

[tehturian]

Because the vast majority of the people who want the Inquisitor back, only want them back because the plot makes more sense that way. It's not about being "favorited", its about what makes sense for the story.

 

I'm one of the people who doesn't want the warden back and think they were the most boring hero ever imagined, but I would change my mind in an instant if the plot called for it.

As others have said we know nothing about the story. If the game's set in the north you can presume that their will be a whole mess of northern problems for the protagonist to solve, on top of Solas. I'm of the opinion it would feel quite jarring actually for your regular turtle neck wearing Starbucks drinking southerner to be wading into those issues. 

[ArianaGBSA]

This, pretty much. I was never attached to my quizi, especially as I played as a dwarf thus I only got a few token lines to remind me I'm shorter than everyone else. 

 

But that's just my opinion, other people love the Inquisitor,  like people love the Warden or Hawke. Now I don't want to seem childish but why should one set of fans be favorited over the other? 

Because Bioware will have to start somewhere, I mean, if they ever do. I don't think they will, having a returning PC is good and Bioware avoid good like the plague.
But if they ever go there I'm happy, no matter which PC they choose, as long as they last at least a trilogy.

[Dai Grepher]

Most people who want the Inquisitor back want it because they want the Inquisitor to deal with Solas personally. That's a preference, but it isn't necessarily the best way for the story to go. We don't know that dealing with Solas will be the driving force of DA4. Even if he is, the Inquisitor doesn't need to be the protagonist to confront Solas or be against him.

My favored approach is a Geralt-Ciri-like one. The new PC will be the main controllable character, but there will be points in the plot where we take control of the Inquisitor for brief story focused sequences.

 

But the story implies that the Inquisitor will be the one to confront Solas in the end. Not only will the Inquisitor likely sponsor the next protag, but the Inquisitor says they will save their friend from himself/stop him by any means necessary. So even if not the protag, the Inquisitor will be involved and make the final choice.

 

I doubt they will make the Quiz playable. What with one arm and all. They'll probably even suit him up in one generic costume. Just like how we all went back to wearing the red formal clothing regardless of what casual wear you picked. Why? Because BioWare can only make one outfit handicapped, even though the different colored formal wears have the same design.

 

I think they would need to have a main quest where you get the Inquisitor's arm and mark back from the Fade or something.

[Abyss108]

Most people who want the Inquisitor back want it because they want the Inquisitor to deal with Solas personally. That's a preference, but it isn't necessarily the best way for the story to go. We don't know that dealing with Solas will be the driving force of DA4. Even if he is, the Inquisitor doesn't need to be the protagonist to confront Solas or be against him.

My favored approach is a Geralt-Ciri-like one. The new PC will be the main controllable character, but there will be points in the plot where we take control of the Inquisitor for brief story focused sequences.

 

Yeah, it's a preference based off the fact Bioware spent an entire game building up a relationship between the Inquisitor and Solas (and before someone jumps down my throat for this - relationship does NOT mean romance here), and building up to a confrontation with him over the fate of the world. Now sure, Bioware COULD make an entire game unrelated to that, but when people ask for the Inquisitor back, it's with the assumption that it's to face Solas. I don't think anyone wants the Inquisitor back for a completely unrelated plot.

 

I'm also in favour of dual protagonists for the next game. A new person to deal with whatever Tevinter plotline we get, who will team up with the Inquisitor to take down Solas. 

 

As others have said we know nothing about the story. If the game's set in the north you can presume that their will be a whole mess of northern problems for the protagonist to solve, on top of Solas. I'm of the opinion it would feel quite jarring actually for your regular turtle neck wearing Starbucks drinking southerner to be wading into those issues. 

 

People who want the Inquisitor back, want them back specifically for the Solas plotline. And whilst we don't know anything about the plotline, they wouldn't spend an entire game building up to a war against Solas, only to pretend that never happened.

[Heimdall]

But the story implies that the Inquisitor will be the one to confront Solas in the end. Not only will the Inquisitor likely sponsor the next protag, but the Inquisitor says they will save their friend from himself/stop him by any means necessary. So even if not the protag, the Inquisitor will be involved and make the final choice.
 
I doubt they will make the Quiz playable. What with one arm and all. They'll probably even suit him up in one generic costume. Just like how we all went back to wearing the red formal clothing regardless of what casual wear you picked. Why? Because BioWare can only make one outfit handicapped, even though the different colored formal wears have the same design.

Well, as I was picturing it, the Inquisitor sections would have no combat but be very dialogue heavy, perhaps involve using a wartable-like interface to send agents on missions that will directly effect the plot and world as the the new protagonist experiences it. I think that would be very interesting.

[Heimdall]

Yeah, it's a preference based off the fact Bioware spent an entire game building up a relationship between the Inquisitor and Solas (and before someone jumps down my throat for this - relationship does NOT mean romance here), and building up to a confrontation with him over the fate of the world. Now sure, Bioware COULD make an entire game unrelated to that, but when people ask for the Inquisitor back, it's with the assumption that it's to face Solas. I don't think anyone wants the Inquisitor back for a completely unrelated plot.
 
I'm also in favour of dual protagonists for the next game. A new person to deal with whatever Tevinter plotline we get, who will team up with the Inquisitor to take down Solas.

We know the fight against him will be important, but I'd be surprised if that was all that was going on, especially considering the Qunari invasion. Besides, Qunari+Tevinter = Intersection of all things dragon related, I want to learn more about dragons.

[Cute Nug]

 

People who want the Inquisitor back, want them back specifically for the Solas plotline. And whilst we don't know anything about the plotline, they wouldn't spend an entire game building up to a war against Solas, only to pretend that never happened.

 

If they go with the DA2 to DAI continuation format the whole Solas destroys the veil war will be over at the start of DA4. We can choose to ally/conscript the Solas faction or the Inqusition faction to fight the next big baddie. So new protagonist is possible if they DAI the next story.

 

I hope the Inquisition doesn't end up as indentured servants to a Vent magister like Fiona did.

[Ariella]

Yeah, it's a preference based off the fact Bioware spent an entire game building up a relationship between the Inquisitor and Solas (and before someone jumps down my throat for this - relationship does NOT mean romance here), and building up to a confrontation with him over the fate of the world. Now sure, Bioware COULD make an entire game unrelated to that, but when people ask for the Inquisitor back, it's with the assumption that it's to face Solas. I don't think anyone wants the Inquisitor back for a completely unrelated plot.

The relationship was built so that they could sucker punch us with the reveal. I said it before, and I'll say it again, the very fact of this relationship with Solas makes the Inquisitor the worst possible person on the planet to go up against Solas now, considering Solas pretty much had a hand in creating the Inquisitor. He knows everything there is to know about the IQ, how they think, how they feel, where the handles are. And at the same time he kept who he really was from the IQ so there is no matching advantage. Recruiting an x factor to deal with him makes a great deal more sense.

As others have said we know nothing about the story. If the game's set in the north you can presume that their will be a whole mess of northern problems for the protagonist to solve, on top of Solas. I'm of the opinion it would feel quite jarring actually for your regular turtle neck wearing Starbucks drinking southerner to be wading into those issues.

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[Abyss108]

We know the fight against him will be important, but I'd be surprised if that was all that was going on, especially considering the Qunari invasion. Besides, Qunari+Tevinter = Intersection of all things dragon related, I want to learn more about dragons.

 

Yup, agreed, there will be other big stuff going on too! Either a Tevinter plot that will lead to us getting the power/influence to confront Solas, or the Solas plot will lead into something even bigger (Mythal? the other Gods? Something not mentioned yet?).

 

If they go with the DA2 to DAI continuation format the whole Solas destroys the veil war will be over at the start of DA4. We can choose to ally/conscript the Solas faction or the Inqusition faction to fight the next big baddie. So new protagonist is possible if they DAI the next story.

 

I hope the Inquisition doesn't end up as indentured servants to a Vent magister like Fiona did.

 

The way they did that was awful! If Bioware drops the plot they just built up for an entire game in the intro again, I'm official out. I have more faith in the Weekes writing team to think that will happen though.

 

The relationship was built so that they could sucker punch us with the reveal. I said it before, and I'll say it again, the very fact of this relationship with Solas ames the Inquisitor the worst possible person on the planet to go up against Solas now, considering Solas pretty much had a hand in creating the Inquisitor. He knows everything there is to know about the IQ, how they think, how they feel, where the handles are. And at the same time he kept who he really was from the IQ so there is no matching advantage. Recruiting an x factor to deal with him makes a great deal more sense.

 

 

 

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As I said above, I have faith in what Weekes will do with the plot. He's never written anything I've disliked. And if you read anything he has ever written about Solas, he certainly didn't write the plot just to "sucker punch" people.

 

Dropping out of the plot isn't even the best option if the Inquisitor chose the "redeem" option, as he is much more likely to listen to someone he already cares about. An unknown definitely has some advantages (which is why the Inquisitor specifically says they are going to recruit one), which is why I think we may get dual protagonists, but the Inquisitor has advantages too - They know Solas. He may have kept his identity hidden, but the Inquisitor knows how he thinks/feels by now too. It goes both ways.  

 

[PCThug]

I love my Inquisitors but their stories are over. I'm ready to play a new character.

[midnight tea]

I love my Inquisitors but their stories are over. I'm ready to play a new character.

 

How are their stories over when Trespasser heavily implies that it's not? Whether we will be playing a new character or not, they'll be back in one way or another.

[Abyss108]

I love my Inquisitors but their stories are over. I'm ready to play a new character.

 

I think your own character disagrees with you considering they said they were going to go kill/redeem Solas! 

 

Protagonist or not, that story is definitely not over!

[Ryzaki]

Yep my quizzy flat out said they had a world to save again. Someone else's quizzy might be ready to sit around and get killed but mine isn't.