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[Eivuwan]

The Inquisitor is still the same person. Changing their personalities to fit what I have in mind would be more inconsistent than a blood mage or Merrill-romancing Hawke being so rabidly anti-blood magic in Inquisition.

 

I don't want to be someone who's on the first name with the Divine, who has favors to call in from world leaders. I don't want to play as someone who's ever met the Empress of Orlais or set foot in the Winter Palace. 

 

 

 

 

Ideally the way I would handle it is that the Inquisitor would approach the new protagonist early on in the game, like Duncan, except we'd have the option of saying "no" and that actually being respected. We'd still have interactions with the Inquisitor throughout the game, but we wouldn't be forced to work for them. 

 

I don't want to be a part of any large organization this time around. Not as it's leader and especially not as a subordinate. And I especially do not want to be a part of an organization that is nothing but a tool for stagnation and a weapon of the status quo, beholden to and build on Andrastian ideals. 

 

At the end of the day, I simply feel that Bioware has more of a responsibility towards fans who were drawn in by their story over fans who did not care for it. Of course, if the majority of the fans don't care, then they should just change their story direction, but right now we seem to be split in half. I feel this way because the fans who care about the story would not get closure (and it really sucks), but the fans who don't care can play some other games in the time they wait for for DA5. I think fans like you who REALLLY REALLLY don't want the inquisitor to be the main protagonist are in the minority though. I think a lot of fans want a new protagonist, but they would begrudgingly accept the inquisitor if push comes to shove. Of course, I could be totally wrong about this since I don't have good data on fan wishes. If Bioware doesn't resolve the Solas Inquisitor arc in a satisfying way, it would just be like the ME3 ending for me. Every time I want to replay the ME series, I can't because the ending just makes it feel so pointless. I don't want that to happen with the DA series as well.

[BansheeOwnage]

I assume you don't kill scores of people in hand to hand combat or practice hours of archery for a living? Trevelyan's arms do look thicker in your picture than in most outfits (especially the ones that use the beige PJ's as a base) though they're still smaller and less toned than mine and I don't go around brawling all day . What I'd really hoped was for the female Qunari model to be big and bulky and muscular like the male version 

Haha, well that is true. As for the qunari, that would be cool. I'm really glad this outfit helps her arms. If you see it from the side it looks better, in fact.

 

Also, with this outfit, it looks like she already has a mechanical left arm

 

That doesn't look too bad but that might be because I'm used to fem elf. *shudders* fem elf's arms. My god.

 

Hilariously enough fem elf arms don't look that bad in the qunari armor (the light version). They make her arms look less like twigs. I have to wear skimpy armor to get non twig arms. And I can only justify that outfit on mages.

Yeah, it's really weird that the Inquisitor's body changes so drastically depending on the outfit (especially when you go back to Skyhold and it changes again), but yes, at least this outfit makes her arms less sad. Definitely appreciated.

 

Ha, wow. That is unfortunate.

 

1.What type of bargaining chip is that if your blowing yourself up as well. The issue is that do ing it that way would risk dooming everything. Heck, not playing along with the orlians noble's game only makes a loose of the war. As i said , you not a hammer. You can't give ultimatums, it not about that.

 

2.Well.....

Huh. Just realized that's Hawke-Shepard. That would be one charismatic person indeed.

 

Huh... that's weird. My Inquisitor said no such thing. In fact she said "I have to save the world."

Again.

[NoForgiveness]

Then that's a double edge sword. That just means no one has prove to say or not say what going to happen with the pc and this topic is just a wishing well.

That right there was my point with the source thing. This is just a wishing well and everyone probably is just wasting their money.

[AresKeith]

No, it means you shouldn't judge a characters future based of a single line half the characters don't say, to a room full of people they don't want to know their plans.

 

Especially when both the previous scene and the next scene show they doing the exact opposite of that regardless of any choices you make.

 

I'm guessing that he means because of those different lines it gives an indication that the Inquisitor won't be the main pc in the next game

[Abyss108]

Then that's a double edge sword. That just means no one has prove to say or not say what going to happen with the pc and this topic is just a wishing well. Added on to that we have history that by itself says volumes of what the write of da will do about he next games pc.

 

Well, yeah, none of us do have proof of what will happen. 

 

Personally, I prefer to base my argument on the numerous lines where the Inquisitor says they will stop Solas, rather than one optional line which maybe implies they won't. Every Inquisitor tells Solas they will either stop/ redeem him, in a scene where they have no reason to lie. We are then shown them making plans. There was an entire DLC building up to that. The final confrontation of the game was declaring this to Solas.

 

As opposed to a single line about "adventuring" thet half the players will never see, or an interview given several years ago before the writers switched, based off the idea that plans never change.

[leaguer of one]

That right there was my point with the source thing. This is just a wishing well and everyone probably is just wasting their money.

More like time.

 

Regardless, bw from dao, stated each new da will have a new pc. DA2 did it, DAI did it.   The story is about thedus no one character. It's time for a new perspective and a new hero.

 

You guy are just joining the ranks asking for the HoF, and /or Hawke back as pc as you're asking for the Quis back.

[leaguer of one]

Well, yeah, none of us do have proof of what will happen. 

 

Personally, I prefer to base my argument on the numerous lines where the Inquisitor says they will stop Solas, rather than one optional line which maybe implies they won't. Every Inquisitor tells Solas they will either stop/ redeem him, in a scene where they have no reason to lie. We are then shown them making plans. There was an entire DLC building up to that. The final confrontation of the game was declaring this to Solas.

 

As opposed to a single line about "adventuring" thet half the players will never see, or an interview given several years ago before the writers switched, based off the idea that plans never change.

 Not everyone pick the line stating they would stop Solas.  So their goes that argument.

[Former_Fiend]

At the end of the day, I simply feel that Bioware has more of a responsibility towards fans who were drawn in by their story over fans who did not care for it. Of course, if the majority of the fans don't care, then they should just change their story direction, but right now we seem to be split in half. I feel this way because the fans who care about the story would not get closure (and it really sucks), but the fans who don't care can play some other games in the time they wait for for DA5. I think fans like you who REALLLY REALLLY don't want the inquisitor to be the main protagonist are in the minority though. I think a lot of fans want a new protagonist, but they would begrudgingly accept the inquisitor if push comes to shove. Of course, I could be totally wrong about this since I don't have good data on fan wishes. If Bioware doesn't resolve the Solas Inquisitor arc in a satisfying way, it would just be like the ME3 ending for me. Every time I want to replay the ME series, I can't because the ending just makes it feel so pointless. I don't want that to happen with the DA series as well.

 

Well, I doubt very many feel nearly so strongly as I do on the matter. There's a reason I haven't been making claims that making the Inquisitor the PC again would cost them any customers, other than myself.

 

Still, ultimately where we diverge is this; you think they need the Inquisitor as the PC to give Solas' storyline a satisfactory conclusion, and I don't. Only time will tell.

[leaguer of one]

I'm guessing that he means because of those different lines it gives an indication that the Inquisitor won't be the main pc in the next game

Thank you. Added with the history of bw just forcing the character to what every they want regardless to what we do one their story is out of our hands.

[Abyss108]

More like time.

 

Regardless, bw from dao, stated each new da will have a new pc. DA2 did it, DAI did it.   The story is about thedus no one character. It's time for a new perspective and a new hero.

 

You guy are just joining the ranks asking for the HoF, and /or Hawke back as pc as you're asking for the Quis back.

 

Only if you blatantly ignore the reasoning behind why we want them back.

 

We don't just want to see our character back.

We don't want the same character for every game.

 

That's all the people who want the warden/hawke back ask for. We want to finish the story we started. And then get a new protagonist for DA5.

[leaguer of one]

 

Still, ultimately where we diverge is this; you think they need the Inquisitor as the PC to give Solas' storyline a satisfactory conclusion, and I don't. Only time will tell.

And it truly does not need the quis to make it satisfying.

[Abyss108]

 Not everyone pick the line stating they would stop Solas.  So their goes that argument.

 

Yes they do. You have two options - stop or redeem Solas. Which is what I said. There is no third option in that conversation.

[Nefla]

As much as I want the inquisitor as the protagonist of DA4, I really don't think it's going to happen. The main reason? The inquisitor's amputation. I don't have enough faith in BioWare to think that they'd write a story about a PC with a handicap. It would take a lot of care and attention to do it right, and those are things I feel BioWare has been lacking the last few years. I think they amputated the inquisitor's arm as (in their eyes) a no-arguments reason to cut the inquisitor out of the fight and make them into some Captain Anderson/Obi-Wan type of NPC with a role as the new (inquisition agent) PC's mentor and quest giver 

[Eivuwan]

Thank you. Added with the history of bw just forcing the character to what every they want regardless to what we do one their story is out of our hands.

 

Yes and it's pretty frustrating. They should have just called their game "Thedas" and have each game be spaced 100 years apart. That way we can actually make choices with many different outcomes.

[AresKeith]

As much as I want the inquisitor as the protagonist of DA4, I really don't think it's going to happen. The main reason? The inquisitor's amputation. I don't have enough faith in BioWare to think that they'd write a story about a PC with a handicap. It would take a lot of care and attention to do it right, and those are things I feel BioWare has been lacking the last few years. I think they amputated the inquisitor's arm as a no-arguments reason to cut the inquisitor out of the fight and make them into some Captain Anderson/Obi-Wan type of NPC with a role as the new (inquisition agent) PC's mentor and quest giver 

 

Tbh, given the criticism towards how they handled HoF and Hawke they chose the best route for the Inquisitor 

[Eivuwan]

As much as I want the inquisitor as the protagonist of DA4, I really don't think it's going to happen. The main reason? The inquisitor's amputation. I don't have enough faith in BioWare to think that they'd write a story about a PC with a handicap. It would take a lot of care and attention to do it right, and those are things I feel BioWare has been lacking the last few years. I think they amputated the inquisitor's arm as (in their eyes) a no-arguments reason to cut the inquisitor out of the fight and make them into some Captain Anderson/Obi-Wan type of NPC with a role as the new (inquisition agent) PC's mentor and quest giver 

 

I have more faith in Weekes than any other Bioware writer.

[leaguer of one]

Only if the blatantly ignore the reasoning behind why we want them back.

 

We don't just want to see our character back.

We don't want the same character for every game.

 

That's all the people who want the warden/hawke back ask for. We want to finish the story we started. And then get a new protagonist for DA5.

Everyone who want the Hof and Hawke want them back specifically for that reason. they want to finish the story they started with their characters.

Witch hunt hinted more story for the Hof.

The Legacy did so with Hawke.

Trespasser with the quis.

Sorry but you all want the same thing.

And Ironically, future pc saw the story through for the past ones.

 

Sorry, but you don't need the quis at the front lines to see the end of their story.

[AresKeith]

Yes and it's pretty frustrating. They should have just called their game "Thedas" and have each game be spaced 100 years apart. That way we can actually make choices with many different outcomes.

 

[Nefla]

I have more faith in Weekes than any other Bioware writer.

Me too, but you know...once bitten twice shy and all that. (or 3 times bitten in my case)

[Ryzaki]

Yes they do. You have two options - stop or redeem Solas. Which is what I said. There is no third option in that conversation.

 

Yep Trespasser ends with Quizzy bolding saying they're either stopping Solas by any means necessary or will redeem Solas if they can. Not sure where people are getting apathetic quizzy from. Even the (lol worthy) "No I don't have any questions" quizzy still stabs the map and says they're gonna stop Solas by any means necessary and that's the most IDGAF as the options get! 

[leaguer of one]

Yes and it's pretty frustrating. They should have just called their game "Thedas" and have each game be spaced 100 years apart. That way we can actually make choices with many different outcomes.

Ironically, they called it dragon age...the age that the story takes place and all the story fallows. I would think that title would mean it's about the Dragon age of Thedas. funny how they are fallowing through.

[leaguer of one]

Yep Trespasser ends with Quizzy bolding saying they're either stopping Solas by any means necessary or will redeem Solas if they can. Not sure where people are getting apathetic quizzy from. Even the (lol worthy) "No I don't have any questions" quizzy still stabs the map and says they're gonna stop Solas by any means necessary and that's the most IDGAF as the options get! 

Umm, if you pick, redeem Solas the quis says something different when they stab the map.

[AresKeith]

Yep Trespasser ends with Quizzy bolding saying they're either stopping Solas by any means necessary or will redeem Solas if they can. Not sure where people are getting apathetic quizzy from. Even the (lol worthy) "No I don't have any questions" quizzy still stabs the map and says they're gonna stop Solas by any means necessary and that's the most IDGAF as the options get! 

 

Does every Quizzy use the "find people he doesn't know" line?

[Former_Fiend]

As much as I want the inquisitor as the protagonist of DA4, I really don't think it's going to happen. The main reason? The inquisitor's amputation. I don't have enough faith in BioWare to think that they'd write a story about a PC with a handicap. It would take a lot of care and attention to do it right, and those are things I feel BioWare has been lacking the last few years. I think they amputated the inquisitor's arm as (in their eyes) a no-arguments reason to cut the inquisitor out of the fight and make them into some Captain Anderson/Obi-Wan type of NPC with a role as the new (inquisition agent) PC's mentor and quest giver 

 

Well for me it comes down to two problems; 1) I play warriors who wield two handed weapons, and that obviously has certain requirements. 

 

And 2; I am just so adamantly against the artificial arm idea everyone seems to have fallen in love with. It just seems...it seems like something a fifteen year old writer would do to make their character cooler. 

 

Which isn't to say I'm against it in all of fiction. I'm a huge Shadowrun fan. Just seems so out of place, so "look at me and how special I am!"

 

Honestly if it wasn't for that I might not be as against the Inquisitor coming back as the PC as I am. I'd still probably be against it, though.

[Ryzaki]

Umm, if you pick, redeem Solas the quis says something different when they stab the map.

 

I know that. But if you pick the "Nope no questions." it auto puts you on the stop Solas by any means necessary track.

 

Does every Quizzy use the "find people he doesn't know" line?

 

Yes.