True enough I just don't want Quiz to end up like Hawke and that's exactly what I feel will happen if Quiz's not on the front lines.
I don't want the Inquisitor on the front lines, the back lines, or even cheering from the bleachers. At best, let the Quizzy send a letter like the Warden did.
Because even worse than ending up like Hawke he or she can end up like Shepard... 
I don't want the Inquisitor on the front lines, the back lines, or even cheering from the bleachers. At best, let the Quizzy send a letter like the Warden did.
Because even worse than ending up like Hawke he or she can end up like Shepard...
A serial protagonist?
I don't want the Inquisitor on the front lines, the back lines, or even cheering from the bleachers. At best, let the Quizzy send a letter like the Warden did.
Because even worse than ending up like Hawke he or she can end up like Shepard...
Ugh no. I rather they be on the front lines or offscreen.
Shepard's issue was auto dialogue assumed friendships and a bad ending. DA series has already avoided the first two of those issues masterfully and I'm not too worried about the last.
Ugh no. I rather they be on the front lines or offscreen.
Shepard's issue was auto dialogue assumed friendships and a bad ending. DA series has already avoided the first two of those issues masterfully and I'm not too worried about the last.
NPC-Hawke has some very Shepard-like features. Though not quite taken to Shepard-extreme.
NPC-Hawke has some very Shepard-like features. Though not quite taken to Shepard-extreme.
Thus why I would not want Inquisitor to have a Hawke like cameo or be on screen if the player's not controlling them.
I would much rather have the inquisitor have to learn to function with only one arm than anything else, my preferences would be as follows:
1) The inquisitor's arm stays as a useless stub and he has to learn to live with and fight with one arm.
2) An appliance is added but isn't mechanical. Something like Captain Hook
3) A mechanical arm that can fail or malfunction and cause drama
That is all.
Hell the 3rd option (or maybe even the second option) could make for some really interesting leveling up or weapon crafting mechanics. I'm not just making a weapon, I'm trying to make this crappy tech on my left side ... less crappy. Plus, to be fair all Inquisitors are right handed anyway. A prosthetic could be built to hold a bow, literally be a shield or dagger, have a focusing crystal, or for two handed users simply be a way to reinforce their grip allowing them to put some of the weapons weight back on their left shoulder. Maybe the thing never gets to function all that well, but some of the upgrades let you put extra consumables (like grenades) inside of it ... silly, but it would be fun and bringing back the Materials mechanic from Inquisition could let you at least customize it's durability or appearance.
I'm not expecting Automail here and I expect it to have serious problems and/or be painful (especially in the early game), but Dragon Age tech and magic should be perfectly capable of creating something usable and potentially give us a fun game mechanic to play around with.
Heck it might actually present an interesting dynamic verses Tevinter and Solas (both who put the past on a Pedestal) in of itself. Going after them using something as forward thinking as a prosthetic arm that could have only been conceived of or created in the current Thedas, where magic is heavily limited by the Veil and thus inter-racial interaction and cooperation is more the norm (Lets face it if there was no Veil, the Ancient Elves would have probably enslaved or ignored the other races). Fun stuff! 
NPC-Hawke has some very Shepard-like features. Though not quite taken to Shepard-extreme.
Not at all. More like Hawke can't be rapped around everyone ideals. And really how can Hawke be ok with blood magic after the end of da2?
A serial protagonist?
The focus of the series, more so than the setting.
Not at all. More like Hawke can't be rapped around everyone ideals. And really how can Hawke be ok with blood magic after the end of da2?
Some Hawkes are, though.
Except the team changes a bit with every game. We have a new lead writer who originally came from the ME series. I don't think it's some kind of fact that they will definitely have a new protagonist for the next game.
The lead just manages the arranges of the story but they are far from the last say. That's the lead designer and that stayed the same from DAO. Unless the lead designer changes, you not going to have a change in story goals.
Some Hawkes are, though.
Which every time people say that I ask why. I mean Hawke Just seen blood mage make a terror out of the bodies of the dead that if let loose would of killed off the city,and an entire tower fill with crazed blood mages and demons. What type of Hawke can go through that and go.."Blood magic is totally fine."
Which every time people say that I ask why. I mean Hawke Just seen blood mage make a terror out of the bodies of the dead that if let loose would of killed off the city,and an entire tower fill with crazed blood mages and demons. What type of Hawke can go through that and go.."Blood magic is totally fine."
They themselves are a Blood Mage? Or in my Hawke's case, his LI was a Blood Mage (Merril).
Hawke doesn't speak out against blood magic. He just repeats the oft-quoted DA2 theme that people will always come up with a justification for using a supposedly dark means for some pure purpose. Thinking people will come up with a self-serving justification for extreme means doesn't mean you disapprove of the means in abstract.
Which every time people say that I ask why. I mean Hawke Just seen blood mage make a terror out of the bodies of the dead that if let loose would of killed off the city,and an entire tower fill with crazed blood mages and demons. What type of Hawke can go through that and go.."Blood magic is totally fine."
Hawke also saw a whole lot of people murdered with knives. I guess all knives are inherently evil now too.
They themselves are a Blood Mage? Or in my Hawke's case, his LI was a Blood Mage (Merril).
Please, that like saying it makes no sense that a gun owner changes their stance of gun control laws after a family member is killed by accident by them.
Hawke being a blood does not mean he would not be ageist blood magic after seeing what happen in the mage tower. If what Hawke saw there could completely change their mind on it.
Even with Merrill as a LI. And I romance Merrill being anti blood magic via rivalry so that is possible.
Hawke also saw a whole lot of people murdered with knives. I guess all knives are inherently evil now too.
Not the same case at all. Knives don't turn the undead into massive abomination of magic that can kill off a city.
Not the same case at all. Knives don't turn the undead into massive abomination of magic that can kill off a city.
Either way, those people are dead. Same effect.
And you can commit some pretty horrendous torture with knives if you want to.
It's perfectly reasonable for some Hawkes to be against blood magic. It's also perfectly reasonable for them to view it as the tool it is. Don't blame the tool, blame the people who turned it into a weapon. Blood magic can also heal.
Either way, those people are dead. Same effect.
And you can commit some pretty horrendous torture with knives if you want to.
It's perfectly reasonable for some Hawkes to be against blood magic. It's also perfectly reasonable for them to view it as the tool it is. Don't blame the tool, blame the people who turned it into a weapon. Blood magic can also heal.
What?
Same effect? Sorry bu a knife will maim you and kill you and that's that. blood magic can kill and maim you, then turn your body into an undead horror which goes after other people to kill them and make their bodies in to undead horrors that does that to others.
that's not the same thing, that far from the same thing.
You're not turning a city into a magic version of left 4 dead with a knife. Sorry, but it make no sense for a Hawke to be fore blood magic knowing that.
It's nitpicky details like this discussion that make people want to control the Inquisitor if they are going to have a part, as we assume they will.
Personally i played a Hawke who was apathetic to blood magic, but her coming to the conclusion "it's really bad" didn't bother me that much. Had i played a "blood magic is awesome" Hawke i would have been bothered. This may seem to be a small issue that people shouldn't focus on, but clearly the opinion Hawke had on blood magic was a big part of how people role-played them.
Which every time people say that I ask why. I mean Hawke Just seen blood mage make a terror out of the bodies of the dead that if let loose would of killed off the city,and an entire tower fill with crazed blood mages and demons. What type of Hawke can go through that and go.."Blood magic is totally fine."
Because Hawke was their character, and they decided their Hawke's were pro-blood magic
It's nitpicky details like this discussion that make people want to control the Inquisitor if they are going to have a part, as we assume they will.
Personally i played a Hawke who was apathetic to blood magic, but her coming to the conclusion "it's really bad" didn't bother me that much. Had i played a "blood magic is awesome" Hawke i would have been bothered. This may seem to be a small issue that people shouldn't focus on, but clearly the opinion Hawke had on blood magic was a big part of how people role-played them.
May I ask how your Hawke stayed apathetic to blood magic after the end of da2?
I just need to understand their motive.
What?
Same effect? Sorry bu a knife will kill you and that's that. blood magic can kill you, then turn your body into an undead horror which goes after other people to kill them and make their bodies in to undead horrors that does that to others.
that's not the same thing, that far from the same thing.
Your not turning a city into a magic version of left 4 dead with a knife.
I can still commit horrific torture and pain to someone. I can still mutilate and kill. Or I could perform an operation to save someone's life.
Blood magic can do horrific things. It can also be used for healing. Why should its good uses be banned, just because it can also be used for evil?
Should medicine be banned, just because you can make a mixture to kill someone with it?
If those mages didn't have access to blood magic, they just would have used other forms to murder people.
Because Hawke was their character, and they decided their Hawke's were pro-blood magic
And no one every point out what the motive is for that. What influences a person to stay a blood mage after seeing how horrible it can be at the end of DA2?
May I ask how your Hawke stayed apathetic to blood magic after the end of da2?
I just need to understand their motive.
Because throughout the game i played a "it's just a tool" Hawke. After the game finished i figured my Hawke was still indifferent to it. Just like a sword can be used to murder or protect, blood magic can too. It's a weapon, a tool. Used badly it hurts people, used well and it's an amazing gift.
Role-playing games allow for the player to input themselves into they characters the play. I do not find blood magic to be inherently evil, and my characters reflect that.
Bottom line is, my Hawke is indifferent because of 1 reason. I decided she was.
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