Just remember everyone. In like three or four years we will all be back here complaining about how the DA4 hero should be the next main character in DA5! I mean why would they change it? The DA4 main character was SOOO good and his story is not DONE!!!! you can all quote me on that. You all know it will be relevant in a few years.
I'm always fine with new protagonists... UNTIL TRESPASSER.
*FOR ME*, It is not about the pros and cons of using new protagonists, it's about Solas. I'm okay with how Alistair/Morrigan/Other old companion and LI are dealt with in DAI, where we meet them with the inquisitor instead of the old character. Maybe that's because I know the relationship between oldcharacter/LI/companion is settled.
BUT SOLAS? It is clearly that he and inquisitor isn't over yet, and I don't want to watch the two confronting each other, arguing, having all the emotional moments while me the player as a new character just stand aside disconnected. I WANT TO EXPERIENCE SOLAS/INQUISIOR's story in FIRST HAND. I want to know how it ends, through inquisitor's perspective but not from a new character's. This is going to be very personal.
So as long as they can figure out some way to deal with this matter, maybe like temporary playable inquisitor or what, I'm still fine with a new protagonist.
I'm always fine with new protagonists... UNTIL TRESPASSER.
*FOR ME*, It is not about the pros and cons of using new protagonists, it's about Solas. I'm okay with how Alistair/Morrigan/Other old companion and LI are dealt with in DAI, where we meet them with the inquisitor instead of the old character. Maybe that's because I know the relationship between oldcharacter/LI/companion is settled.
BUT SOLAS? It is clearly that he and inquisitor isn't over yet, and I don't want to watch the two confronting each other, arguing, having all the emotional moments while me the player as a new character just stand aside disconnected. I WANT TO EXPERIENCE SOLAS/INQUISIOR's story in FIRST HAND. I want to know how it ends, through inquisitor's perspective but not from a new character's. This is going to be very personal.
So as long as they can figure out some way to deal with this matter, maybe like temporary playable inquisitor or what, I'm still fine with a new protagonist.
See there would still be a way to work in the inquestior in some fashion while having a new hero, the quiz is really in no shape to go after Solas himself, part of there current job is finding people he doesn't know, think our next hero will be stumbling over a dread wolf plot
People using Trespasser as a reason for the Inquisitor to remain the main character might want to go back and replay it. The whole point of the thing was to let you know that the Inquisitor and the Inquisition itself is to close to Solas. Solas knows all of them and knows how they work and all that. Like the last thing the Inquisitor says in the DLC is they need to go out and find people that Solas dose not know. You know I would bet one of those people will be the main character of DA4.
People using Trespasser as a reason for the Inquisitor to remain the main character might want to go back and replay it. The whole point of the thing was to let you know that the Inquisitor and the Inquisition itself is to close to Solas. Solas knows all of them and knows how they work and all that. Like the last thing the Inquisitor says in the DLC is they need to go out and find people that Solas dose not know. You know I would bet one of those people will be the main character of DA4.
Glad someone else sees that, an unkown person stumbling across a dread wolf plot or finding elven artifacts and such, would be perfect.
Oh snap just realize why Solas mentioned the place he did, Didn't Dorien mention once he has seen orbs like the one our favorite dark spawn uses in paintings back home....yeah our next hero may end up being able to deal with Solas if so and a new hero would be needed for a new orb....
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Oh snap just realize why Solas mentioned the place he did, Didn't Dorien mention once he has seen orbs like the one our favorite dark spawn uses in paintings back home....yeah our next hero may end up being able to deal with Solas if so and a new hero would be needed for a new orb....
Dorian does mention to Solas, I believe, in a banter that the orb seems like similar orbs that the original Dreamers used. The Dreamers were the founders of the Imperium so...
Yeah its going to be interesting if that is an connection
Like the last thing the Inquisitor says in the DLC is they need to go out and find people that Solas dose not know. You know I would bet one of those people will be the main character of DA4.
Right, they need to recruit a new team, but it's still going to be the inquisitor driving the action. He or she is going to be the one to decide what the inquisition does. He is the driving force behind the narrative. If they switch protagonists, then either:
1. You have to play as a soldier in someone else's army (you'd be cassandra basically)
2. They have to kill the inquisitor off
3. They have to ignore all the conflict they just set up between the inquisitor and Solas.
If they had left things the way they originally ended between Solas and Quizzy, then it would have been fine to switch up. But after what happened in Tresspasser, switching protagonists would just be awful writing.
Right, they need to recruit a new team, but it's still going to be the inquisitor driving the action. He or she is going to be the one to decide what the inquisition does. He is the driving force behind the narrative. If they switch protagonists, then either:
1. You have to play as a soldier in someone else's army (you'd be cassandra basically)2. They have to kill the inquisitor off
3. They have to ignore all the conflict they just set up between the inquisitor and Solas.
If they had left things the way they originally ended between Solas and Quizzy, then it would have been fine to switch up. But after what happened in Tresspasser, switching protagonists would just be awful writing.
In the Mass Effect trilogy, Hackett, The Illusive Man and the Council technically drove the action as well, since they were the primary quest givers for all the main story quests. Despite this, Shepard had a great deal of free rein to do as s/he saw fit to see the mission through. The same could be true of the Inquisitor, and because this character has a variable appearance and voice, may not even appear nearly as often as Hackett did, if at all.
In the Mass Effect trilogy, Hackett, The Illusive Man and the Council technically drove the action as well, since they were the primary quest givers for all the main story quests. Despite this, Shepard had a great deal of free rein to do as s/he saw fit to see the mission through. The same could be true of the Inquisitor, and because this character has a variable appearance and voice, may not even appear nearly as often as Hackett did, if at all.
Different. Those characters never said they were going to stop the reapers. They basically tossed free reign at shepard and said "go do stuff".
The inquisitor says he's going to redeem/stop solas. He/she says they will save the world. These are thing the inquisitor is going to do. Not someone else. If you switch protagonists, you have to basically ignore the whole ending of the game, including all the choices you made. Your choice about what to do with the inquisition specifically says how it will affect future efforts against Solas. Again, this wasn't an issue before tresspasser, but the events of this DLC have sort of necessitated that the inquisitor return as the protagonist.
Like, when The Empire Strikes Back ends, it ends with a visual of our main characters looking out into the galaxy preparing to save Han. If ROTJ had started off with brand new characters while Luke and the rest were side characters off somewhere, that would be crappy writing. In the same way, after tresspasser, switching protagonists would be crappy writing.
The Inquisitor is the worst choice to go up against Solas now, because as others have stated Solas knows him/her. That's a priceless advantage, and the IQ still doesn't know as much about him.
Also, the new PC isn't going to be going up against Solas immediately. Depending on the story, I wouldn't expect him to show until midpoint of the game at least.
The Inquisitor's story is done, just as the HoF's and Hawke's. Someone new will take the stage, and Bioware will tie it in.
The knowing part works both ways.
Apparently a new protagonist can be a useful muscle at least, but he or she might be unable to work for everything that has happened, unless bioware decided to not to mention or just erase some of them permanently, such as for those choosing to romance with solas, how will the inquisitor try to "persuade" solas and save him from himself in the future, and how will Solas try to "never forget" the inquisitor...and are these capable of being done by someone else that solas never got to know?
Because some companions can be no longer exist in the next sequel, I guess this is why the plot did mention that they have to find new people that solas doesnt know, like Ironbull (can be killed), blackwall (can be exiled), sera (rejecting participation), and the two that could become the divine (surely one cannot expect the divine to follow the inquisitor to Tevinter), so at least four companions in DAI will be gone in DA4 and surely a replacement is needed.
You know I'm fine playing as a new PC in DA4 as long as the Solas Arc won't be resolved by the new PC.I'm fine with the new guy taking care of the Qunari Arc and any Tevinter Arc but the Solas Arc has to be resolved between The Inquisitor & Solas.People using Trespasser as a reason for the Inquisitor to remain the main character might want to go back and replay it. The whole point of the thing was to let you know that the Inquisitor and the Inquisition itself is to close to Solas. Solas knows all of them and knows how they work and all that. Like the last thing the Inquisitor says in the DLC is they need to go out and find people that Solas dose not know. You know I would bet one of those people will be the main character of DA4.
You know I'm fine playing as a new PC in DA4 as long as the Solas Arc won't be resolved by the new PC.I'm fine with the new guy taking care of the Qunari Arc and any Tevinter Arc but the Solas Arc has to be resolved between The Inquisitor & Solas.
Maybe we could play as the New PC until we got to the Solas sections then we would play as The Inquistor that way we would get the proper closure for the Inquisitor/Solas Arc.
Exactly, Want a new character? fine, bring them on. But Solas? Solas belongs to the Inquisitor. Period. This has become far too personal for it to be any other way.
Exactly, Want a new character? fine, bring them on. But Solas? Solas belongs to the Inquisitor. Period. This has become far too personal for it to be any other way.
Here, here. I'm all for a new character. But they should have absolutely nothing to do with the Solas arc. That is the Inquisitors battle to fight. Who knows, maybe we'll see an Awakening type deal for Solas where you continue and end the Inquisitor storyline, and then DA4 with the new guy/gal. I'd be fine with that.
Just don't shoehorn John / Jane raggety newbie into direct conflict with Solas and have this unknown be the savior, while I get a note from my Inquisitor at the war table saying she's investigating something of 'dire importance' and therefore wishes me luck in my battle to stop the Elven Gods. Or turn my Lavellan into some out of character quest giver that shows up for 2 hours.
That's bad writing all over again and I'll be crushed. The Age of Dragons has had enough zero to heroes. Let the latest one finally get the closure he or she deserves and then let's start fresh, maybe fast forward a century.
It's quite funny how people have changed from "DEATH TO THE INQUISITOR!" to "INQUISITOR NEEDS CLOSURE"
Makes me wonder if there is a chance of them taking the feelings of fans on Inquisitor+Solas on board.
I think the Inquisitor should go after Solas. We have reasons now to gather new companions, everyone else has got other stuff to do. It would be a nice opportunity to give some good love interests to the guys, so many were disappointed. I don't like the idea of playing as a new character, only to switch to the Inquisitor to face or speak to Solas, i feel that would end up having to reduce his role.
I personally never believed I would ever say it. but this actually has the potential to be a better rivalry than Sun Li The Glorious Strategist, who imo is the best antagonist Bioware has ever done, and one of my all time favorites in general. This is just as personal as his betrayal in your moment of triumph. The gut punch is just as big, and the final showdown, just as necessary.
I'm not one of those people who keep begging old PCs to come back. I've been fine with the new protag every game thing...until now. This is just too much, this NEEDS to happen, somehow. For the sake of awe inspiring story telling. This absolutely NEEDS to happen.
I personally never believed I would ever say it. but this actually has the potential to be a better rivalry than Sun Li The Glorious Strategist, who imo is the best antagonist Bioware has ever done, and one of my all time favorites in general. This is just as personal as his betrayal in your moment of triumph. The gut punch is just as big, and the final showdown, just as necessary.
I'm not one of those people who keep begging old PCs to come back. I've been fine with the new protag every game thing...until now. This is just too much, this NEEDS to happen, somehow. For the sake of awe inspiring story telling. This absolutely NEEDS to happen.
Yes, i'm the same. I agree with you how much of a wasted opportunity it would be. DAO and DA2 were fun, but there was never any "I need to do this" feeling with those they fought. Other than "the world will end", of course. But this works on 2 levels, the necessity of the characters, and the emotions the player has towards the characters (on our own and through our PC). There will be a disconnect if a new protag faces Solas. That has always been my concern, i'm usually on the side of "Fresh start, new friends, new adventures" so i've enjoyed starting over with new characters. But i can't think of a way a new character could ever give me the same thrill and heartache going after Solas as my Inquisitor would give me,
I've mentioned this before, but I'm very curious, because the fact that the Inquisitor always lives and is physically altered leaves a lot of room to rework the character and restructure the entire gameplay to accommodate it, which was never something that could really be true for either Hawke or the Warden. It's basically a sort of skill reset without the silly death like in ME2. I still don't expect the Inquisitor to return as a playable character….yet I can't help but feel like this setup really allows it.
I've mentioned this before, but I'm very curious, because the fact that the Inquisitor always lives and is physically altered leaves a lot of room to rework the character and restructure the entire gameplay to accommodate it, which was never something that could really be true for either Hawke or the Warden. It's basically a sort of skill reset without the silly death like in ME2. I still don't expect the Inquisitor to return as a playable character….yet I can't help but feel like this setup really allows it.
And in a world where there can be red lyrium armor that doesn't kill the wearer, why can't we have a magical arm made by Dagna
No matter how much we want the inquisitor back, to make the character creation feature available in every DA game, they probably will still choose a new protagonist...
Despite ME is an exception where Shepard remains the only savior together with character creation option, it might not be what they also want in DA series
And I tend to not expect that they'll try to import your inquisitor face into the next game, they should have done so no matter the previous protagonist has become a NPC or a playable character, unable to make hawke look exactly like what he/she looked like in DA2 is the biggest disappointment that I have had
The knowing part works both ways.
I like having a new protagonist. Keeps things fresh.
If they have the inquisitor play some role in the next game though I hope they can come up with a system that lets us choose the dialogue. Although I do understand if it's too much work.
Also allow us to side with Solas in DA4- yeah that's probably not gonna happen but I really want to see what happens when the veil comes down. LOL.
I like having a new protagonist. Keeps things fresh.
If they have the inquisitor play some role in the next game though I hope they can come up with a system that lets us choose the dialogue. Although I do understand if it's too much work.
Also allow us to side with Solas in DA4- yeah that's probably not gonna happen but I really want to see what happens when the veil comes down. LOL.
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