Unfortunately Weekes is also on record for how much he loves the whole "new protagonist every game" thing.
If that's the reason why, I'm disgusted by Bioware.
I was confused by that. Why write Trespasser that way if he wants to set up for a new protagonist? Trespasser actually made a lot of people want to see the Inquisitor again whereas they didn't care as much previously.
Even if he does, it seems outright stupid to set up a whole new conflict for the inquisitor and then just drop him/her in favor of a new pc. That's just terribad story telling.Unfortunately Weekes is also on record for how much he loves the whole "new protagonist every game" thing.
Unfortunately Weekes is also on record for how much he loves the whole "new protagonist every game" thing.
If that's the reason why, I'm disgusted by Bioware.
Agreed, if that is indeed the case. It would be insulting and... unworthy of them. As for the first part, well:
I was confused by that. Why write Trespasser that way if he wants to set up for a new protagonist? Trespasser actually made a lot of people want to see the Inquisitor again whereas they didn't care as much previously.
Consider me confused as well, since I didn't know he made that comment until now. It's totally inconsistent with Trespasser. A lot of people were just fine with leaving the Inquisitor to their ending in the base game, so why shake that up and make things both personal and unfinished if we'll just get a new protagonist anyway? *Sigh* If we do get one, what the hell was the point of Trespasser? Stop screwing with us, Bioware 
It's also pretty insulting to use the loss of an arm as a way to bench a character. And it's a good way to take a dump on the character I spent all this time building and connecting myself to.
They've done that before, though I always thought that wasn't up to Weekes and hoped him actually being in charge would help. Still, I have more faith in him that Gaider.
I was confused by that. Why write Trespasser that way if he wants to set up for a new protagonist? Trespasser actually made a lot of people want to see the Inquisitor again whereas they didn't care as much previously.
Consider me confused as well, since I didn't know he made that comment until now. It's totally inconsistent with Trespasser. A lot of people were just fine with leaving the Inquisitor have their ending in the base game, so why shake that up and make things both personal and unfinished if we'll just get a new protagonist anyway? *Sigh* If we do get one, what the hell was the point of Trespasser? Stop screwing with us, Bioware
I can't speak for Patrick since I am not him, but if I had to guess he probably wants to do the same thing to the Inquisitor as they did to Hawke for Inquisition. I pray I'm wrong, since that was a terrible idea.
It's also pretty insulting to use the loss of an arm as a way to bench a character. And it's a good way to take a dump on the character I spent all this time building and connecting myself to.
Agreed, if that is indeed the case. It would be insulting and... unworthy of them.
Yeah. Bioware would lose me as a customer if that was why they did it.
I can't speak for Patrick since I am not him, but if I had to guess he probably wants to do the same thing to the Inquisitor as they did to Hawke for Inquisition. I pray I'm wrong, since that was a terrible idea.
Yeah. Bioware would lose me as a customer if that was why they did it.
Yeah, it's a terrible idea, and would inevitably work out worse than Hawke.
Ugh Inquisitor being Hawkeified.
Noooooo.
Why didn't they just leave my PC with they happy ending from the base game then
why screw that up.
Exactly. Trespasser would be useless, stupid and very mean if that's what they do. In that case, it would have been much better to have the base-game's ending be the end of the Inquisitor.
You see I just can't believe that the writers did not have enough foresight to see what Trespasser would do to a lot of players in regards to their attachment to the Inquisitor. I have faith that they are not that dumb.
You see I just can't believe that the writers did not have enough foresight to see what Trespasser would do to a lot of players in regards to their attachment to the Inquisitor. I have faith that they are not that dumb.
Well, they approved the Mass Effect 3 endings seeing them as good despite what it does to Shepard even when they knew how attached players were.
Well, they approved the Mass Effect 3 endings seeing them as good despite what it does to Shepard even when they knew how attached players were.
Lol yeah that was just so dumb. I hope they learned from that. From what I remember part of the reason why ME3 ending was so bad was because the lead writers did not consult the others on the decision and that it was pretty last minute.
Well, they approved the Mass Effect 3 endings seeing them as good despite what it does to Shepard even when they knew how attached players were.
I hope they learned their lesson... To me it seemed more like Casey Hudson was the one who didn't understand the connection, because I think he has trouble understanding that stuff in general (which isn't an insult, it's just unfortunate for an RPG director). Weekes always seemed more understanding of the community (remember that synthesis art of a Banshee breastfeeding?), so I hope I'm not wrong. We'll see definitively... eventually! That will really make or break Bioware for me.
I was confused by that. Why write Trespasser that way if he wants to set up for a new protagonist? Trespasser actually made a lot of people want to see the Inquisitor again whereas they didn't care as much previously.
Because he knows people would want the Inquisitor to be involved in a Solas related plot regardless. The reason he wrote it so the Inquisitor lost an arm and the Inquisition was dissolved/downsized was so that they could excuse the Inquisitor not being personally involved, though leaving open less direct involvement.
Because he knows people would want the Inquisitor to be involved in a Solas related plot regardless. The reason he wrote it so the Inquisitor lost an arm and the Inquisition was dissolved/downsized was so that they could excuse the Inquisitor not being personally involved, though leaving open less direct involvement.
Which, as people have just stated, would be insulting, morally disgusting, and just lame.
Because he knows people would want the Inquisitor to be involved in a Solas related plot regardless. The reason he wrote it so the Inquisitor lost an arm and the Inquisition was dissolved/downsized was so that they could excuse the Inquisitor not being personally involved, though leaving open less direct involvement.
And how do you know this? Some of us do, but obviously a lot of us don't. Like many have said, they were not invested in the Inquisitor coming back as a PC UNTIL Trespasser happened. I am one of them even though I was a solasmancer.
I don't know. Maybe it's just because I played a two handed weapon user, but the loss of an arm being the thing that sidelines my character makes sense. He'll just never be able to fight at his fullest potential again. He'd still probably be able to handle himself with a longsword, but there's a difference between handling yourself and being able to save the world.
And I like that. It's humanizing to a character that needed some humanization; to have suffered this wound and have to suffer the realization that he has to step back away from the front lines. Not to mention that having been crippled by Solas does a lot more to fuel a personal grudge than having been mildly inconvenienced until Dagna could work up a replacement.
Especially because, as I stated earlier in the thread, I never felt Solas actually manipulated my Inquisitor the way other people do. Any decision my Inquisitor made, he would have made regardless of Solas' imput.
Anyway, regarding the Inquisitor as an NPC; yes they fell short with Hawke. They'll do better next time.
I don't know. Maybe it's just because I played a two handed weapon user, but the loss of an arm being the thing that sidelines my character makes sense. He'll just never be able to fight at his fullest potential again. He'd still probably be able to handle himself with a longsword, but there's a difference between handling yourself and being able to save the world.
And I like that. It's humanizing to a character that needed some humanization; to have suffered this wound and have to suffer the realization that he has to step back away from the front lines. Not to mention that having been crippled by Solas does a lot more to fuel a personal grudge than having been mildly inconvenienced until Dagna could work up a replacement.
Especially because, as I stated earlier in the thread, I never felt Solas actually manipulated my Inquisitor the way other people do. Any decision my Inquisitor made, he would have made regardless of Solas' imput.
Anyway, regarding the Inquisitor as an NPC; yes they fell short with Hawke. They'll do better next time.
Then they need to disable the Inquisitor in a way that makes sense for all classes. My canon is a mage so that's just a dumb reason for removing the Inquisitor from the frontlines.
If that's the reason why, I'm disgusted by Bioware.
Same here.
I'm still not convinced of that; I still have hope. I have to! I can't give in
Mostly Weekes being lead writer and seeing what he did in Trespasser is giving me hope.
Patrick Weekes being the lead writer now is the only thing that gives me a sliver of hope that they didn't maim the inquisitor to "cripple" them so that they can't be played anymore. Most of me is just bitter and skeptical though and believes that's exactly what they did.
I was confused by that. Why write Trespasser that way if he wants to set up for a new protagonist? Trespasser actually made a lot of people want to see the Inquisitor again whereas they didn't care as much previously.
I'm one of those people I didn't care about seeing the inquisitor again after I stopped playing DA:I in December. I certainly wouldn't have asked to play her again. Trespasser changed my mind and made me want a DA4 with high personal stakes between Solas and the inquisitor.
You see I just can't believe that the writers did not have enough foresight to see what Trespasser would do to a lot of players in regards to their attachment to the Inquisitor. I have faith that they are not that dumb.
I can believe that. My faith in BioWare is at an all time low.
Because he knows people would want the Inquisitor to be involved in a Solas related plot regardless. The reason he wrote it so the Inquisitor lost an arm and the Inquisition was dissolved/downsized was so that they could excuse the Inquisitor not being personally involved, though leaving open less direct involvement.
I agree, and it's terrible. I have some slim hope that we'll play as the inquisitor taking down Solas but I don't think it will happen. NPC inquisitor being too "crippled" to be the PC means I won't play DA4.
Then they need to disable the Inquisitor in a way that makes sense for all classes. My canon is a mage so that's just a dumb reason for removing the Inquisitor from the frontlines.
That is a fair point.
And how do you know this? Some of us do, but obviously a lot of us don't. Like many have said, they were not invested in the Inquisitor coming back as a PC UNTIL Trespasser happened. I am one of them even though I was a solasmancer.
Same. My reaction to the PC coming back before Trespasser would've been "what for?"
But now D:
I don't know. Maybe it's just because I played a two handed weapon user, but the loss of an arm being the thing that sidelines my character makes sense. He'll just never be able to fight at his fullest potential again. He'd still probably be able to handle himself with a longsword, but there's a difference between handling yourself and being able to save the world.
And I like that. It's humanizing to a character that needed some humanization; to have suffered this wound and have to suffer the realization that he has to step back away from the front lines. Not to mention that having been crippled by Solas does a lot more to fuel a personal grudge than having been mildly inconvenienced until Dagna could work up a replacement.
You're really stuck on that two handed specialization
I wish we could have a DA4 where you solve your problems through intelligence, manipulation, strategy, persuasion, teamwork, preparation, stealth, and combat rather than combat alone. Being a one woman murder-machine as your only means to solve problems is boring anyway. I hate RPGs' over reliance on combat.
I very much disagree that losing an arm would mean you can't fight anymore though. You may not fight as well, but if you take this super strong demi-god of a character that plows through bandits, elite fighters, dragons (and even bears!) like tissue paper and make that person much weaker, then they'd just be an exceptionally skilled normal person. Combat would be a challenge rather than your win being a given.
As far as a prosthetic (or what I want which is a simple Captain Hook style attachment of a dagger or something) making losing an arm a temporary inconvenience rather than a real physical and emotional challenge...try saying that to someone in real life with a prosthetic limb.
Honestly, I also just want my Lavellan and Solas to finally be together in some way, shape, or form. Their story is so sad.
Same. My reaction to the PC coming back before Trespasser would've been "what for?"
But now D:
Now the Inquisitor can lead a secret society dedicated to bringing down Solas. 
Edit: Actually there's something like that in Pillars of Eternity, with the Big Bad and a major NPC...
Now the Inquisitor can lead a secret society dedicated to bringing down Solas.
Remember how we were going to "found the Jedi order" in DA:I? This is the chance! (as long as we get to play the inquisitor of course)
Now the Inquisitor can lead a secret society dedicated to bringing down Solas.
Edit: Actually there's something like that in Pillars of Eternity, with the Big Bad and a major NPC...
But it won't be my Quizzy it'll be BW's quizzy. (Also if they start treating elves the way Hawke does Bloodmages I'll lmao forever.)
Which, as people have just stated, would be insulting, morally disgusting, and just lame.
How? 
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