The Future of the Inquisition *Trespasser spoilers*
#1
Posté 10 septembre 2015 - 08:31
#2
Posté 10 septembre 2015 - 09:31
Now the Inquisition is the bodyguards of Divine Vivictoria, and both of those nations can screw themselves (except Anora, she can go screw with my Warden, who hopefully is back to put some sense into his country).
They will both be grateful when the Inquisition stop both the "Mad Elven God of Hipocrisy and Failure" and the "Mindless Cow Men".
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#3
Posté 10 septembre 2015 - 09:34
What I hope for, personally, is for the writers to weave together the two important choices.
Let's say that your inquisitor vowed to hunt down Solas: as a result, Fen'Harel's agents would be relentless in their efforts in undermining the Inquisitor, making disbanding the inquisition the right choice... But if your Inquisitor still hopes to redeem Solas, then his agents would as a result be more hesitant, less efficient in their efforts to thwart the Inquisitor and maintaining the Inquisition active would become the right decision to make.
Something similar was done in Mass Effect: the right choice for a Shepard who had befriended Wrex and kept Maelon's data was to remain staunchly pro-Krogan, while the best outcome for a Shepard who had killed Wrex and erased Maelon's data was to stab Wreav in the back.
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#4
Posté 10 septembre 2015 - 10:03
Tho realistically, Solas is a bigger threat than Corypheus we're going to need all the resources we can get to stop him (even if it means killing him) and I think the inquisition staying together isn't so bad even tho they're vulnerable to corruption because they shrink the inquisitions force to a more manageable size and all new recruits go through thorough background checks. And serving as the Divines personal honor guard was a nice touch and makes sense.
#5
Posté 10 septembre 2015 - 11:08
#6
Posté 10 septembre 2015 - 11:23
Yeah I didn't want to disband the Inquisition and changing it to an honor guard was a good loophole to keep the Inquisition independent as Leliana was Divine Victoria, who all but moonlights as my spymaster.
Not only did I think the Inquisition is needed to challenge the threat Solas and the Qunari present, but I think the Inquisition is also going to be needed to help Leliana reform the Chantry.
#7
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Posté 10 septembre 2015 - 11:24
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Disband and work as a smaller group to try and save Solas from himself. I've had enough corruption to last a lifetime and to try and help save the one who is trying to destroy the world is not something a big group should know about.
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#8
Posté 11 septembre 2015 - 05:32
Inquisitor Adaar just, as of 15 minutes ago, disbanded the Inquisition.
He was friends with Solas and desperately wants to prove him wrong and show that he doesn't need to destroy the world to restore that which was lost.
He felt that part of proving Solas wrong was to remove part of the problem. Inquisitor Adaar saw how his soldiers were behaving at the Winter Palace. One of the Inquisition guards was threatening an Orlesian guard to be put in chains if he interfered with the Inquistion's work, and that the Inquisition was in charge, in a palace belonging to Orlais.
Solas said it well. The Inquisition had become a powerful force and now faced the inevitable result of other large and powerful forces. Corruption and betrayal.
The Inquisition's soldiers had gotten too big for their britches, as that one guard proved quite clearly. And it was infested with spies from the Qunari AND Fen'Harel, and who knows who else. Leliana told my Inquisitor well, "there have been private armies rise, spy masters, what worries them is the hand that guides them."
It wouldn't surprise me if Orlais, Ferelden or Tevinter had spies in the Inquisition.
So, Adaar disbanded the Inquistion.
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#9
Posté 11 septembre 2015 - 05:43
My Trevelyan and Solas were friends. She told him she'll change his mind, partly because she doesn't want to just kill someone who was once her friend and partly because she doesn't believe in empty threats - as if threatening someone who just pertified someone else on sight could have any effect other than new statue.
But because she doesn't know how much is the Inquisition infested with his spies, she disbanded it.
#10
Posté 11 septembre 2015 - 05:55
My different characters will, of course, have differing opinions on this choice (my eventual canon state might even go with the Honor Guard), but I personally felt that disbanding was the better option. Settling in with the Chantry might have the benefits of greater material support and enlistment, but being more vulnerable to further corruption and infiltration, as well as being saddled with more political responsibilities and attention are obstacles we're better off without. All of our focus must be dedicated to stopping Solas, and there's no time for distractions.
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#11
Posté 11 septembre 2015 - 05:58
My different characters will, of course, have differing opinions on this choice (my eventual canon state might even go with the Honor Guard), but I personally felt that disbanding was the better option. Settling in with the Chantry might have the benefits of greater material support and enlistment, but being more vulnerable to further corruption and infiltration, as well as being saddled with more political responsibilities and attention are obstacles we're better off without. All of our focus must be dedicated to stopping Solas, and there's no time for distractions.
Especially with Orlais wanting to interfere with the Inquisition's affairs.
#12
Posté 11 septembre 2015 - 06:40
I want to redeem Solas, he's less likely to kill us all in an instant like the Qunari.
#13
Posté 11 septembre 2015 - 08:49
The Qunari don't want to kill you, they want you to convert.I want to redeem Solas, he's less likely to kill us all in an instant like the Qunari.
Solas is the one who said that he will kill everyone.
#14
Posté 11 septembre 2015 - 11:10
What I mean is that Solas can kill people with a mere thought. Qunari are more mundane in nature. He didn't have to spare us.The Qunari don't want to kill you, they want you to convert.
Solas is the one who said that he will kill everyone.
#15
Posté 11 septembre 2015 - 12:47
What I mean is that Solas can kill people with a mere thought. Qunari are more mundane in nature. He didn't have to spare us.
Ofc he had, the protagonist's powers demanded it.
#16
Posté 11 septembre 2015 - 01:09
My main concern with placing the Inquisition under the direct control of Divine Victoria is that, under those circumstances, any future sins by the Inquisition become, by association, sins of the Chantry.
That gives Solas and the Qunari the ability to spy on and destabilize two major sources of opposition at the same time. And I'm not sure that the newly reformed Chantry is in a position to suffer a second loss of confidence inside a decade. While there are certainly players who would like to see the Chantry fall, I doubt many of them would want that if the cost was everyone in the world dying or being converted to the Qun.
Of course, it may be irrelevant in a Divine Leliana Chantry. With her further opening the organization to elves, Solas and the Qunari may already have all the spies they need in her ranks. Which, as players, we know would probably mean that the writers would handwave a way for the other two Divines to suffer similar infiltration. The Heart of the Many pretty much gives them free reign to say anyone is a Qun spy.
#17
Posté 11 septembre 2015 - 01:42
My main concern with placing the Inquisition under the direct control of Divine Victoria is that, under those circumstances, any future sins by the Inquisition become, by association, sins of the Chantry.
That gives Solas and the Qunari the ability to spy on and destabilize two major sources of opposition at the same time. And I'm not sure that the newly reformed Chantry is in a position to suffer a second loss of confidence inside a decade. While there are certainly players who would like to see the Chantry fall, I doubt many of them would want that if the cost was everyone in the world dying or being converted to the Qun.
Of course, it may be irrelevant in a Divine Leliana Chantry. With her further opening the organization to elves, Solas and the Qunari may already have all the spies they need in her ranks. Which, as players, we know would probably mean that the writers would handwave a way for the other two Divines to suffer similar infiltration. The Heart of the Many pretty much gives them free reign to say anyone is a Qun spy.
It may be an advantage to Divine Leliana, possibly. Many Elves join the Qunari and/or Solas because their lives are shitty and they see the Qunari as a way to find acceptance and equality since the Qun doesn't discriminate race. As for Solas, maybe they believe he can give them a better life and a return of the Elven Empire (he won't obviously but they might not know). Now here's Leliana, head of the Chantry, not only saying that Elves are accepted and loved by the Maker but doing more than just lip service by letting them join the priesthood and returning Shartan's verse to the Chant. Elves may not want to join the Qunari or Solas if the Chantry is making an effort to change its ways and undo centuries of erasure and oppression.
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#18
Posté 11 septembre 2015 - 03:50
After rethinking my position I have decided to disband the Inquisition and redeem Solas. It's a matter of quality over quantity. Besides, I have Divine Cassandra ruling the Chantry and rebuilding the Seekers of Truth, the Templar Order under Knight Commander Delrin Barris and the Circle of Magi under Grand Enchanter Vivienne. Another organization vulnerable to corruption and infiltration is something we can't afford.
#19
Posté 12 septembre 2015 - 06:19
I did it both ways, but after thinking about it I prefer disbanding the Inquisition since my Inquisitor also chose to "redeem" Solas.
Redeeming Solas seems like a more personal / moral quest, undertaken with a group of trusted friends at the Inquisitor's side, rather than a show of force and military might (which might be more appropriate if you vowed to hunt down and kill Solas). Also, it's not really the sort of thing you can rally a cause behind - "help me redeem my friend who wants to kill us all!", or one for which you're likely to get official sanction and approval from other nations. So it made sense for me for the Inquisition to disband since its legitimate cause was done, and for the core group of allies to "start over" at the beginning.
And it made a really nice bookend story-wise - you open the game with a top-down view of the Inquisitor in a cell, and later Cassandra declares you're all alone with no resources; you end the game with a top-down view of the Inquisitor in a cell, and Cassandra once again declares that they're all alone in the new quest they're beginning.
#20
Posté 12 septembre 2015 - 07:09
I chose to disband the Inquisition. Its purpose had been fulfilled and I didnt want it to become something monstrous and corrupted later. Its better that it will be remembered as something good that inspired people and brought them hope during dark times and finally saved them.
I want to try and redeem Solas because I liked him as a companion. This isnt something that can be done with a big military force since we dont even know where Solas is, how big his spynetwork is or how exactly he intends to accomplice his goal. Secrecy is vital. A small group has a better chance of operating in secret.
#21
Posté 12 septembre 2015 - 08:22
And I doubt Skyhold will be used as the base of operation for the Inquisition remaining as Divine's honor guard. It was Solas' once base of operation as well and he knows all the secrets.
Sad to imagine that wonderful castle being empty again though
It was a beautiful place out in middle of nowhere.
What I hope for, personally, is for the writers to weave together the two important choices.
Let's say that your inquisitor vowed to hunt down Solas: as a result, Fen'Harel's agents would be relentless in their efforts in undermining the Inquisitor, making disbanding the inquisition the right choice... But if your Inquisitor still hopes to redeem Solas, then his agents would as a result be more hesitant, less efficient in their efforts to thwart the Inquisitor and maintaining the Inquisition active would become the right decision to make.
Something similar was done in Mass Effect: the right choice for a Shepard who had befriended Wrex and kept Maelon's data was to remain staunchly pro-Krogan, while the best outcome for a Shepard who had killed Wrex and erased Maelon's data was to stab Wreav in the back.
That's a good point! What was also great about that mission was that if Shepard destroyed Maelon's data but befriended Wrex, Wrex argues with Shepard why did destroyed the data that could have saved the Krogans (that scene was intimidating, lol). Something like that would be a great call back to the player's choice and keep the drama.
#22
Posté 12 septembre 2015 - 08:29
Had to go for disband as there was no option to retain independence. Certainly didn't want it to become the divine/chantry's pet guard dog.
#23
Posté 12 septembre 2015 - 08:36
Initially I was very resistant to the idea of disbanding my baby army. However, on further consideration, I don't want the Inquisition to be the puppet of the Chantry nor full of Qunari and Solas spys. So I choose to disband. In the end, I believe the Inquisitor has to form a new group to oppose Solas. He knows too much about how the Inquisition operates, the best plan is to disperse my forces and create a new group that Solas will not know about.
Besides, I remember mother Giselle words of wisdom from the base game. She hopped that the inquisition this time around would be wise enough to know when to put down its sword and disband. Wise words indeed.
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#24
Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 10:58
Keep the Inqusition and redeem Solas is my choice.
I think we still need the force to stop him.
#25
Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 02:13
James is a friend of Solas, the Inquisitor trusted him and was open minded with his more spirits can be friends view despite being a necromancer. However, there are more factors at play that nothing in James's mind can justify what Solas intends to do. Hard decisions must be made for the greater benefit of the world and when someone threatens to destory that said world whether or not being a lover of friend is it really right to sacrifice the very world for love or friendship? Personally, that's not even an option. Solas must die.





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