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[Kimarous]

Disband, all organsations will fall into corruption eventually.

 

 Welp, better disband all governments, charities, education institutions, militaries, businesses...

[Korva]

Continue, partly out of sheer spite for the all in-world and out-world people, writers included, who want me to believe that we are incapable of building anything of value, that we're all incompetent and corrupt, that even the most level-headed and benevolent Inquistor is despised by all the world now, and that Solas is pretty much the sole reason we even got this far. To hell with that. I'm also annoyed that Solas is apparently the only thing that matters now, as if everything else the Inquisition might be based on or have built for had suddenly become suddenly meaningless.

 

I was very much invested in the Inquisition as a project for positive change, even if it's only on a small scale. My devout Andrastian Inquisitor raised the people's flag at Therinfal, and when Cole later told her "You are theirs", that perfectly summed up what I wanted her to do and be. The Inquisition was a safe refuge, a second chance, a new hope for many people who wanted to turn their lives around or had lost everything. Humans, elves, dwarves, mages, templars -- hell, she learned to view spirits as people, too, thanks to Cole himself and Solas (no matter how loathesome that "friend" turned out to be, this is a lesson she is grateful for). I'm not giving that up, or letting paranoia destroy the chance to hold on to a place where all these different people can come and work together for something better.

 

And how many of them can't just go home, anyway? How many were refugees? How many of these refugees had their lives destroyed several times over even before Corpyheus: by the Orlesian invasion, the Blight, the civil war in Orlais, the fighting between mages and templars, by who knows what smaller disasters and conflicts. These in particular shouldn't lose the new lives they built in the Inquisition again. Most of the refugees are common folk, what protection would they have under some random noble, especially in Orlais? And what if having served the oh-so-horrible Inquisitor ends up being held against them?

 

No. Solas isn't the only thing that matters, just as the Breach and later Corypheus was never the only thing that mattered. It's about people too, and hope.

 

I want to remain independent, but working with Cass to reform the Chantry and protect the people would be acceptable if that is the only way outside of headcanon.

 

(It mirrors Solas' passion and sense of duty for his charges, in a way, but with none of the complete lack of regard for anyone who isn't from a miniscule minority of "real people".)

[almasy87]

Disband. Those that served with the Inquisition have done their part to keep Thedas safe. They deserve to go home unmolested by the ingratitude of those they risked their lives for.

Amen to this!

I was really upset at the way Ferelden (and Orlais, but mostly Ferelden!) behaved. They are ungrateful and useless, and even if they say all they want is peace and don't like the way the inquisition's forces are growing, they want the only organization who could keep the peace up to disband! (i'm astonished that even King Alistair sends a letter to Teagan to tell him to let him know if he needs anything. Wtf, Alistair?).
They are a bunch of ungrateful pr*cks and my Lavellan is done doing the dirty job for them only to be spat on the face after..!
She's off to look for Solas alone with a few trusted friends who she knows will stand with her.
And everyone else is gone their way anyway.. some well deserved it (Cullen, Bull, Sera, Josie), the others by circumstance..so there isn't much left of the Inquisition that started anyway :/

It's better to work in the shadows and build a new network in Tevinter. Solas knows too much about the Inquisition ties so the organization has become pointless at this point. Even Leliana says it at the end, "he knows my spies and is always a step ahead of us".
They need to restart from the beginning, somewhere else

[Stryver]

I really want to continue the Inquisition.

[medusa_hair]

Disband. Its job is done. Now it has much more of a chance to become what it was fighting against. Plus my Inquisitor wants to retire somewhere with her LI and relax for a change.

Except my Solasmancer who wants to focus on finding him and saving him from his own guilt and single-mindedness.

[mgagne]

...

 

I was very much invested in the Inquisition as a project for positive change, even if it's only on a small scale. My devout Andrastian Inquisitor raised the people's flag at Therinfal, and when Cole later told her "You are theirs", that perfectly summed up what I wanted her to do and be. The Inquisition was a safe refuge, a second chance, a new hope for many people who wanted to turn their lives around or had lost everything. Humans, elves, dwarves, mages, templars -- hell, she learned to view spirits as people, too, thanks to Cole himself and Solas (no matter how loathesome that "friend" turned out to be, this is a lesson she is grateful for). I'm not giving that up, or letting paranoia destroy the chance to hold on to a place where all these different people can come and work together for something better.

 

...

 

THIS.

 

 

As the story progressed I came to realize it was my duty to not only restore order but also bring about change to a world too long mired in its own corruption; which is mirrored, if metaphorically, by the recurring blights.  The Chantry, the decayed Tevinter imperium, the Orlesians, the Qunari - they all want the Inquisition to disappear so they may cling to their power and privileges.  And Solas, that accursed betrayer, would erase millenia of human civilization to try and ressurrect the long exinct elven empire whose collapse he himself provoked by creating the Veil.  He doesn't wish to 'save his people' - he's a coward who's fleeing the consequences of his own decisions and seeks atonement for his crimes.

 

No - what Thedas needs is an 'Enlightenment' like our own world went through and the Inquisition is the vector for this.  Morrigan will be instrumental to this, with the knowledge acquired through the Well I believe she can be a match for the Betrayer and her own mother who are, if I understood correctly the ending of the main game, one and the same now.  So although I chose to place my Inquisition under the Divine's direct control in my first playthrough, I think now it would be better to  go into hiding and work - Illuminati/Free Mason style - to effect the transformation.

[wright1978]

None of the choices really reflected what i wanted. Couldn't use it to support Solas nor to attack the Qunari.

I suppose disbanding is the closest as it weakens the opposition to Solas.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Disband, all organsations will fall into corruption eventually.

 

Where did you get that idea -- SolASS?? His track-record does not exactly indicate very sound advice.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

None of the choices really reflected what i wanted. Couldn't use it to support Solas nor to attack the Qunari.

I suppose disbanding is the closest as it weakens the opposition to Solas.

 

What, why??

[TobiTobsen]

What, why??

 

Spoiler

 

*goose-steps away*

[Boost32]

What, why??

Its the same as when people were disappointed because they couldn't help the Archdemon destroy the world.

[wright1978]

Its the same as when people were disappointed because they couldn't help the Archdemon destroy the world.

 

Well its more a case with Solas of cleansing the world of a blight.

[Bleachrude]

Wow

 

I;m really disappointed in so many people angry that two sovereign nations don't want to basically have parts of their land annexed. No offense, but many of the people are being somewhat emotional.

 

Orlais and FErelden have very valid reasons to want the inquisition either gone of under some form of control. In what way does it make sense that the inquistion can simply commandeer forts and equipment without the nations that said things belong to being annoyed? People point out the grey warden are given an arldom but that arldom is subservient to not only to Teryn Cousland but the monarchy itself.

[CoM Solaufein]

If you look at real world similarities, The Knights Templar got too powerful for their own good. The nations that they had helped out started to turn on them because of their wealth and influence, which can be said about the Inquisition DAI. They have become too powerful which is making their allies uneasy. But its necessary for the Inquisition to exist because of the Qun and now the Solas threat. Their allies need to realize that fact and accept it.

[Al Foley]

Hell to the no.  

If you look at real world similarities, The Knights Templar got too powerful for their own good. The nations that they had helped out started to turn on them because of their wealth and influence, which can be said about the Inquisition DAI. They have become too powerful which is making their allies uneasy. But its necessary for the Inquisition to exist because of the Qun and now the Solas threat. Their allies need to realize that fact and accept it.

Except the Chantry will serve as a check against the Inquisition's power.  And one, that at least I could trust given Cassandra was in charge.  That she would use us fairly and honestly.  The future is the future.  The present, however, is now. 

[Kimarous]

Wow

 

I;m really disappointed in so many people angry that two sovereign nations don't want to basically have parts of their land annexed. No offense, but many of the people are being somewhat emotional.

 

Orlais and FErelden have very valid reasons to want the inquisition either gone of under some form of control. In what way does it make sense that the inquistion can simply commandeer forts and equipment without the nations that said things belong to being annoyed? People point out the grey warden are given an arldom but that arldom is subservient to not only to Teryn Cousland but the monarchy itself.

 

One thing that kinda bugs me is that when Teagan gets all antsy about Caer Bronach, you CAN say "But it was full of bandits!", but you CAN'T say right then and there "Well, it was full of bandits at the time, but if you want it back, we'll hand it over. Now, what else are you concerned about?" I mean, do we really NEED Caer Bronach by this point? The "keep the Inquisition / not disband" option presents the ideal scenario for me - enough downsizing to settle peoples' grievances while still maintaining a power base.

[Chlorite]

I had a hard time to chose but I finally went for Disband.

 

(note that the following thoughts are purely roleplay-based on a flawed Inquisitor. I consider both options to be equally interesting and valid)

 

1) My Inquisitor is afraid of what the Inquisition would become after he died (the close-call at the end of Trespasser was an eye-opener).

 

What his sucessors would do.

It stems from the conversation he had with Solas both in the main game and the DLC (what happens if the reins are passed on to more power-inclined people, spies). He dealts with several orders who suffered and caused suffering (the Wardens, the Seekers, the Templars)

 He is not optimistic enough to think he can do better.

Of course, being the personnal guard of the Divine would give purpose, but he feels like the Inquisition is not suited for the job (hiring good guards would be enough in his mind). And what will happen in a hundred years? An all-powerfull Divine with her private army, dominating Thedas? My Inq is the "worst scenario" kind of guy so he cannot take that risk.

However, what is rather chilling is that the one character that influenced my Inquisitor on the matter is Solas. Being who he is, a trickster figure, I could see him smoothly manipulating the Inq into taking that option, for his own benefit (even if they are friends).

 

2) Now, he can do what he wants.

My Inq want to keep Solas alive. And he knows it is not a logical nor an acceptable choice for Ferelden or Orlais. And as long as the Inquisition is official, it will have to depend on the big nations opinions if he doesn't want to go to war with them.

After two years he allows himself to be egoistical and rash. He is not a hero anymore. With Solas being his friend (he thinks so at least) and the whole elven implication, he knows his choices are going to be biased in the eye of the public eye. So the Inquisition goes underground.

 

(that thread is great. it is nice to see everyone's development, as this decision hugely relies on what you made your Inquisitor to be)

[Korva]

Orlais and FErelden have very valid reasons to want the inquisition either gone of under some form of control. In what way does it make sense that the inquistion can simply commandeer forts and equipment without the nations that said things belong to being annoyed?

 

It what way does it make sense that our masterful head diplomat and our spymaster (who happens to know Ferelden's monarch if it's Alistair) did not make the necessary arrangements ASAP? The writers are blaming us for something they did, and I am not down with getting blamed for never having had any options in this matter. If a non-diplomatic, power-grabbing and/or stupid Inquisitor ignored the advisors, or refuses a direct request from the crown, sure, blame that Inquisitor. But don't forcibly write all Inquisitors and their advisors and non-diplomatic, power-grabbing and stupid.

[Toasted Llama]

 Welp, better disband all governments, charities, education institutions, militaries, businesses...

 

Any proper democratic government has re-elections after a set time period, effectively disbanding the old and installing a new one based on the people's choice as to avoid corruption.

When that doesn't happen you get cases where Putin was voted for president by like what? 140(lol)% percent of russians?

 

Charities for a specific cause also disband once the required help has been provided and charities have been known for being corrupt, as it's easy to claim you're helping people while you're really just putting the money in your pocket.

[Nixou]

It what way does it make sense that our masterful head diplomat and our spymaster (who happens to know Ferelden's monarch if it's Alistair) did not make the necessary arrangements ASAP?

 

 

Who said they didn't? Chances are, the king/queen was overruled by the Landsmeet "First you give Amaranthine to the Grey Wardens, now you allow another organization to seize even more land, why not letting Orlais re-annex us while you're at it your majesty?"

[Korva]

Then that should have been made clear in-game, and the Inquisition been forced to make a decision whether to comply or not.

 

Again: I do not appreciate being blamed for something I was never given any choice in. That is lazy writing and breaks immersion faster than I can blink.

[Kimarous]

Who said they didn't? Chances are, the king/queen was overruled by the Landsmeet "First you give Amaranthine to the Grey Wardens, then you give Redcliffe to the mage rebellion, and now you allow another organization to seize even more land, why not letting Orlais re-annex us while you're at it your majesty?"

 

Fixed.

[OsiriNara]

up until meeting Solas I wanted to keep the Inquisition, always picked those dialogue options, but after that - seeing how easily his people could infiltrate the organisation and, as Leliana says, Solas knows everything about the current members - I changed my mind. The fates of our companions don't change much anyway, so I went with disband. Also - one of the reasons you're able to assume the leader position of the Inquisition is because the common folks think of you as the Herald of Andsraste. It's essentially a holy order. Without the mark, well, it's kind of hard to keep that kind of army.

 

Also, my non-mage Trevelyan is a nay-theist and pro-mage, and with Leliana as the Divine there's no guarantee that either his or her successor(s) would agree with that view. Mages already have it bad, they don't need another knife against their neck, especially with Vivienne insisting on the Circles 2.0 (does she just love power or something?)

[Jaderail]

I think you don't need the Inquisition, there's too much politicking going on, and I think it causes more unrest having to appease Orlais and Fereldan. Not to mention that corruption is a major disadvantage. Our Inquisitor and his/her party did 99% of the work anyway, I honestly don't think we need armies of people to stop Solas, a small team of people who know what they're doing (and presumably have a trick up their sleeve) can do it better and with less chance of corruption and spies. 

 

I don't think an army would do much good against Solas anyway... look at all the Qunari statues he made just by willing it.

[ADeadDiehard]

Disbanding, even though it's more starting over from the beginning.

I loved the Inquisition, but I doubt sentimentality would help when it gets turned against what it's trying to save.