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[diagorias]

So, if I understand it right:

• Solas wants to destroy the Veil again and thus making the Fade and the Physical world one and the same, again.
• The world will die (?) if he tears down the Veil.
• The Rifts are doorways between the Fade and the Physical world.
• The Breach was a huge rift and without interference would have grown until it swallowed the world.

This brings me to a few questions, maybe some of you can answer.

 

• If the world will die, wouldn't it kill all the elves all the same (and if not, wouldn't the humans, qunari (race) and dwarves survive as well)?
• Did the Dwarves already exist before the creation of the Veil? If so, what will happen to them and their Titans if the Veil gets destroyed?
• And the most pressing question; If the breach had swallowed the world if not opposed, why did Solas want to stop it? Since it would mean the Fade and the Physical world would be merged? Or wouldn't that have happened?

I am guessing I misunderstood or misread some of the lore, but if someone could clarify this, I would be thankful

[Commander of the Grey]

As for the dwarf thing it seems that yes they did exist before the veil. There's a mural and a codex praising Mythal for striking down the Four pillars, titans, and I'm assuming that caused their lyrium blood to seep into the ground. And/or their bodies became dormant like in Decent and the elves began 'mining' the lyrium directly from them.

And the breach was pulling demons through. Forcing spirits to change. I imagine that's not the outcome he wants. Well, he might not have a choice now but before his orb was broken he could have (possibly) taken his mark back or made another, and removed the veil with less shocking means. Now he doesn't have that option. As of now anyway.

That's how I take it anyway. I'm also horrible with stuff like this.

[Commander of the Grey]

I imagine he expects so much death because while his people are more attuned to magic, (as natural as breathing), the other races are not. Removing the veil will force it into them, like trying to reverse tranquility, and that's not going to go smoothly. Not to mention the ones who will become corrupted by demons, not having any control, or they'll possible go mad.

Not to mention how the world changed when the veil was put into place. There's no telling what change will happen to the environment once its removed again.

[Knight of Dane]

I still wanna hear Solharels take on what the blight actually is. If it's really just the result of magisters trying to do what he knows how to do. If so, what is the black city? Arlathan?

[diagorias]

I still wanna hear Solharels take on what the blight actually is. If it's really just the result of magisters trying to do what he knows how to do. If so, what is the black city? Arlathan?

It might have been revenge from the old Elven 'Gods', they might have thought Solas would come there to kill them, but instead of being there, a trap in the form of a disease was there.

[Knight of Dane]

Should'a just had one of Varrics traps then. That one killed lots of elves too, bad Solas, making no sense with his trap crafting.

[Katebe94]

So, if I understand it right:

• Solas wants to destroy the Veil again and thus making the Fade and the Physical world one and the same, again.
• The world will die (?) if he tears down the Veil.
• The Rifts are doorways between the Fade and the Physical world.
• The Breach was a huge rift and without interference would have grown until it swallowed the world.

This brings me to a few questions, maybe some of you can answer.

 

• If the world will die, wouldn't it kill all the elves all the same (and if not, wouldn't the humans, qunari (race) and dwarves survive as well)?
• Did the Dwarves already exist before the creation of the Veil? If so, what will happen to them and their Titans if the Veil gets destroyed?
• And the most pressing question; If the breach had swallowed the world if not opposed, why did Solas want to stop it? Since it would mean the Fade and the Physical world would be merged? Or wouldn't that have happened?

I am guessing I misunderstood or misread some of the lore, but if someone could clarify this, I would be thankful

 

I think some of your confusion is coming thinking that the rifts are doorways - they're not, really, or at least not ones that anything but things of the fade (demons/spirits) can get through.

 

The orb's power allowed the Inquisitor (and friends) to walk in a certain part of the fade - it was Fen Harel's orb, so it allowed the wielder to negate what Fen Harel did: making it so that beings of the physical world could not physically be in the fade. As the codexes hint, the veil isn't really a barrier as such - it's more of a fundamental redefinition of the relationship between the fade and the world brought about, we now know, by Solas.

 

So when the breach emerged, it was very much Solas' priority to stop it -  he couldn't enter the fade himelf because he didn't wield the power of the orb: the inquisitor did, albeit very imperfectly. He certainly didn't want to go up in flames while Corypheus tried to establish himself as a God, which as we know from In Hushed Whispers looks like it results in GAME OVER for just about everything.  Interestingly, he and Coryfish' plans were almost identical - physically enter the fade, journey to arrive in some place (the black city, possibly arlathan?) and change the entire nature of reality to suit their respective purposes (restoration of Arlathan/Godhood). 

 

Sorry if that was a little confusingly stated, hope it helped!

[noneko]

Spirit Cole mentions in one of his dialogs that all the revelations make him very happy, because it means that before the Veil, spirits were supposed to be like him, going from the Fade to the "real world" to help and remaining themselves.

 

The Veil isn't real, it's false, fake, fabricated to forbid... isn't it wonderful?

It means I belong here, helping, healing the hurt. I'm not a wrong thing, a wreck, a ruin. I'm what I should be.

Oh, Solas understands.

 

 

 

It's the process of bringing them through the Veil that turns spirits into demons, not the concept itself.

[TK514]

I think he fully expect to kill almost everyone, modern elves included, except for those few ancient elves that remain, and whoever he locked away in the Fade way back when.

 

It is possible that those who are already magically inclined might survive, but no guarantees.

 

As for the difference between the uncontrolled Breach and removing the Veil, I think the dark future has the Fade encapsulating the real world, like a drop of oil in water.  They don't ever actually recombine.

 

Solas wants to make oil and water the same thing, where there's no difference between the Fade and the World.

[Ranadiel Marius]

I think he fully expect to kill almost everyone, modern elves included, except for those few ancient elves that remain, and whoever he locked away in the Fade way back when.

It is possible that those who are already magically inclined might survive, but no guarantees.

I suspect that what happens when the Veil is removed is the entire world would become a more extreme version of Kirkwall. People basically go mad in Kirkwall due to how thin the Veil is. No Veil would essentially be the same but worse.

The only people who would avoid this fate are dreamers (who seem to be random throwbacks to the pre-Veil days). Hard to tell if anyone else would survive with their mind in tact with any regularity.