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[Deerber]

Seems like all of your problems are related to HM giving you headaches. Once that is fixed it should be smooth sailing. Just abuse the heck out of the wall hack.

 

Don't listen to this guy. He doesn't know what he's talking about

[The NightMan Cometh]

For me, figuring out how to maximize the Javelin GI was one of the most difficult things to figure out in this game....but once you do..mother of god..the amount of destruction you can cause....

 

Even with maxed fitness...Hunter Mode still gimps your shields...

 

I learned that when you cloak / fire proxy mine...it's best to aim for the feet of mooks  and go for dead center on bosses

 

You dont have to go with a sniper rifle on him at all times...he makes several weapons incredibly destructive..such as the hurricane & pirahna...Talon & Claymore are just godly with him

 

Just keep experimenting and see what you like....GI isnt for everybody..but man...once you get the hang of using him...so much death.

[justinman114]

I would put 5 in Proxy mine, 3 in Fitness, and max the rest.  He is a damage machine.  The key is to kill stuff fast so they can't kill you!  And about your "double-vision" on hunter mode, get used to it.  Geth Scanner/Hunter mode is arguably the best crutch in the game.  Situational awareness cannot be replaced.

 

Try him with the Talon instead of a sniper rifle to get used to playing him.  Always cloak->proxy->fire and repeat.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

I would put 5 in Proxy mine, 3 in Fitness, and max the rest.  He is a damage machine.  The key is to kill stuff fast so they can't kill you!  And about your "double-vision" on hunter mode, get used to it.  Geth Scanner/Hunter mode is arguably the best crutch in the game.  Situational awareness cannot be replaced.

 

Try him with the Talon instead of a sniper rifle to get used to playing him.  Always cloak->proxy->fire and repeat.

If you have 6 in Proxy mine, a cloaked PM will kill a Gold Husk.  You can also go 5 ranks and probably opt for the 20% power damage bonus in the passives, since he doesn't really need the extra headshot bonus.

[justinman114]

If you have 6 in Proxy mine, a cloaked PM will kill a Gold Husk.  You can also go 5 ranks and probably opt for the 20% power damage bonus in the passives, since he doesn't really need the extra headshot bonus.

I believe that's exactly what I do, my proxys kill husks all day.  Also I usually quickscope when I snipe, so headshots are just as random as handshots (and both kill equally as effectively with dat Javelin).

[capn233]

If you have 6 in Proxy mine, a cloaked PM will kill a Gold Husk.  You can also go 5 ranks and probably opt for the 20% power damage bonus in the passives, since he doesn't really need the extra headshot bonus.

 

Yes, you can kill a gold husk with only 5 in PM as long as you take either Damage and Capacity at 4, or Power Damage at 5 of Networked AI.  Usually the latter is fine since there typically isn't need for more pitiful headshot bonus on GI.  At least not on SR GI.

[DaemionMoadrin]

6/6/6/6/0 for GI. Yeah, you don't need 6 in cloak if you don't use sniper rifles but I like to have the option for the Javelin challenge. GPS, Claymore and Talon work great on him, too. Fitness is a bit of a waste on infiltrators, either use a CM4 or AM3 to survive running around.

 

http://kalence.drupa...24J53364!GDGA.S

 

I use the GI mainly to do weapon challenges, hence the focus on weapon damage.

[Cryos_Feron]

Like someone already said: HM seems to be broken in your setup and could be the main problem.


to those who offered to carry him:
from his post one could think that he needs it badly, but I played a few gold matches with him and he actually is a good player
especially if you consider his early-stage-manifest

[capn233]

6/6/6/6/0 for GI. Yeah, you don't need 6 in cloak if you don't use sniper rifles but I like to have the option for the Javelin challenge. GPS, Claymore and Talon work great on him, too. Fitness is a bit of a waste on infiltrators, either use a CM4 or AM3 to survive running around.

 

http://kalence.drupa...24J53364!GDGA.S

 

I use the GI mainly to do weapon challenges, hence the focus on weapon damage.

 

Hmmmm, AM3 with 0 fitness.  That's like 375 shields.  Seems like it would be extremely annoying against Phantom / Dragoon spam or swarmers.

[q5tyhj]

Hmmmm, AM3 with 0 fitness.  That's like 375 shields.  Seems like it would be extremely annoying against Phantom / Dragoon spam or swarmers.

The OP says they're having trouble staying alive so people recommend 0 fitness/no CM builds? Lol, that's real helpful. And it doesn't really make any sense on a non-sniper build anyways; granted, four ranks in fitness don't give you a whole lot of shields/health, but you're trading it for virtually nothing (a dmg bonus to a weapon you're not using and a melee dmg boost for a non-melee kit).

 

OP- once you get the doubling/resolution issue fixed, abuse the hell out of RHA and your wallhax, and destroy everything before it can look at you twice (use a shotgun, Raider/Claymore/Venom in particular.. and the Talon qualifies as a shotgun). And the moment your shields are gone you need to disappear (i.e. into cover). 

[Salarian Master Race]

The OP says they're having trouble staying alive so people recommend 0 fitness/no CM builds? Lol, that's real helpful. And it doesn't really make any sense on a non-sniper build anyways; granted, four ranks in fitness don't give you a whole lot of shields/health, but you're trading it for virtually nothing (a dmg bonus to a weapon you're not using and a melee dmg boost for a non-melee kit).

 

 

 

A strong offense is the best defense!  After all, everybody here knows that dead/frozen/statis/pull/stagger targets can't shoot back...

[q5tyhj]

Yeah but you're not getting any extra offense going 66660 if you're not using a SR- you're trading 4 ranks in fitness for a SR damage bonus you don't get and a melee dmg bonus you won't use... 

[Mordokai]

A strong offense is the best defense!  After all, everybody here knows that dead/frozen/statis/pull/stagger targets can't shoot back...

 

Unless we're talking about geth hunter/rocket trooper.

 

Then all gloves are off.

[m-99 saber]

This is a build I would suggest, noob approved (points to my signature). Most of the emphasis is on shield recharge speed, since it'll help keep you alive.

 

http://kalence.drupa...53X53363!5DDBCO

 

edit: forgot to mention that I just cloak, shoot (or proxy mine), and run. I never really have to deal with the long recharge because of the weight bug.

[Dovakiin_N7]

A strong offense is the best defense! After all, everybody here knows that dead/frozen/statis/pull/stagger targets can't shoot back...

But a collector captain/phantom even marauder that spawned behind your back ,because you or someone murdered the entire spawn ,would kill you just by looking at you. A single seeker plague would cause you misery. Or the ravaged poo or the banshee balls.

I agree this is most effective way to play him but not the optimal. Not for most players anyway.

GI is one of best designs by bioware. Murder machine but definitely not trivial kit.

[Dovakiin_N7]

Unless we're talking about geth hunter/rocket trooper.

Then all gloves are off.

You forgot the prime turret. It laughs at your RHA.

[JGDD]

Super Scrub Murder Machine. Don't like the Wraith? Use a Claymore, Talon, Saber or whatever floats your boat that ain't a sniper rifle. Changing amps etc accordingly. AP rounds are generic enough to not hose power users while still being bad juju for the numerous armored units you encounter.

 

This build hasn't lost its effectiveness since the game was released and covers all weapons but the aforementioned sniper rifles.

[Alfonsedode]

i have nothing to add, but i still will.

Just play the kit, u cant really build him wrong exept if not speccing HM. Its a good guy to get better at the game.

[Darth Volus]

Gi and Problem in one sentence does not compute, unless it's the enemies that have a problem.

[MaxCrushmore]

This is a build I would suggest, noob approved (points to my signature). Most of the emphasis is on shield recharge speed, since it'll help keep you alive.

 

http://kalence.drupa...53X53363!5DDBCO

 

edit: forgot to mention that I just cloak, shoot (or proxy mine), and run. I never really have to deal with the long recharge because of the weight bug.

 

I would strongly recommend taking the damage evos in the GI passives, as the weight of the loadout is relatively insignificant due to this games cloaking mechanics.

 

Also the ROF increase in HM (evo 5b) is huge for DPS, it is a multiplicative damage boost on top of your cloak damage and %20 PM debuff.

 

The GI gets crazy good mileage out of all the powers ROF and damage boosts, the only one which isn't as valuable as the alternative is HM evo 6. I find evo A a better option as the extra speed and wall hax aids surivivabilty quite significantly, and also allows you to attack clustered groups of enemies easier.

[Malaclypse The Younger]

(...)also shield power cells on the GI are much more survivable than cyclonics, especially on plat.

I played the GI all day yesterday, y'know...challenge pts, and when I noticed my depleting stocks of cycIII I decided to try subbing in the shield cell III. I found that they are no substitute whatsoever -- with my play style, anyway. Shield recharge speed helps not at all with those damnable banshee balls eating away your mojo.

GruntK was unfortunate enough to have to suffer through my day of GI mediocrity...that ended when hazard Ghost and its console-frying rain left us framedropping to the point of restarts. GK, when we were playing I was hitting 80-90k but I did improve in the hours after you left and finished the night with regular 135-150k golds. One day we'll actually have a game in which I don't make you wonder if I'd be better off in Silver! Well, probably... Really, it seriously might happen. Maybe.

[GruntKitterhand]

I played the GI all day yesterday, y'know...challenge pts, and when I noticed my depleting stocks of cycIII I decided to try subbing in the shield cell III. I found that they are no substitute whatsoever -- with my play style, anyway. Shield recharge speed helps not at all with those damnable banshee balls eating away your mojo.

GruntK was unfortunate enough to have to suffer through my day of GI mediocrity...that ended when hazard Ghost and its console-frying rain left us framedropping to the point of restarts. GK, when we were playing I was hitting 80-90k but I did improve in the hours after you left and finished the night with regular 135-150k golds. One day we'll actually have a game in which I don't make you wonder if I'd be better off in Silver! Well, probably... Really, it seriously might happen. Maybe.

 

The depth of your level of commitment is humbling, and I dunno if I want you walking around with the kind of stress that might induce!  I mentioned that game in the 'last pug' thread too, so much bs to cope with.  I have to say Vancouver, Condor and Ghost Hazard would not be anywhere near my top choices of maps to play with a Piranha, even if framedrop wasn't a factor.  

 

I rarely play the GI on Gold or Plat without at least 3 ranks of Fitness and a Cyclonic III/IV, because I'm simply not good enough to be effective with him without those Shields. It may very well be a placebo, but it seems to make a difference when I solo, or ever have to clutch waves.  I love him so much he was a primary motivation to start a second account so that I could keep one Javelin / sniper build and one for the Talon and everything else.

[The NightMan Cometh]

I take back everything I said....

 

GI Indra is stupid easy mode.....w Drill rounds vs Cerberus.. I had 20 Head Shot medal by wave 2.

 

try it...it's ridiculous....I am hoping for a 20 HS medal by the end of wave 1 vs Collectors

[Deerber]

I take back everything I said....

 

GI Indra is stupid easy mode.....w Drill rounds vs Cerberus.. I had 20 Head Shot medal by wave 2.

 

try it...it's ridiculous....I am hoping for a 20 HS medal by the end of wave 1 vs Collectors

 

Everyone's good at getting headshots in solos

[The NightMan Cometh]

^^ cept I don't solo.