Bann Teagan was one of the missteps of otherwise good DLC.
Besides looking absolutely nothing like his character from DA:O, to the point where there wasn't even a slight resemblance, he also seems to have gone through a dramatic personality shift.
Having him oppose the Inquisition I approve of, but he should have been a bit more diplomatic and 'in character.'
His nose, shape of his cheeks and eyes are closer to DAO then that DA2 abomination was at least.
Really tho, can you blame Teagan after what happen last time he was at the same place? Gaspard turned him into a massive embarrassment.
Ironic considering the Inquisition held control of Caer Bronach for 2-3 years.
Better that than to leave it in the hands of squatting bandits.
Plus, rights, deeds, and negotiations were Josephine's responsibility, not the Inquisitor's. Anger towards the Inquisitor is misdirected, especially if you went out of your way to help (and get on the good side of) both Teagan and King Alistair via war table missions.
Finally, treating the Inquisition like interlopers over the past two years is basically taking away the player's freedom of choice. "Here's what everyone thinks of you two years since the Breach, even though you've had no say in the those two years whatsoever." We certainly weren't given options to relinquish control of the Keeps and such to their respective owners. If they're complaining about stuff that happened before we killed Corypheus, then they should have addressed the issues immediately or shortly after his defeat, not two years later.
I haven't gotten the DLC yet, so I don't know exactly how the council nonsense goes yet, but it sounds like a lot of squawking and bitching and moaning, and very little credit where it's due.
So what happens if I don't take the fort in Ferelden, do no Forces operation, give Cullen no agents and invest everything in Conenctions? Do Fereldan still say **** about Inquisition? (probably gonna use cheat engine to check these)
Doing the best interest of your country doesn't mean that you are a dick
Also he wish to show some of Ferelden proud to the Orelsians
Ungrateful ass. Where was he when I retook his castle from ALexus?
Alexius kicked him out. Considering how the Venatori work with most people, I'm surprised he didn't end up as a Red Lyrium statue.
As it has been said, Teagan, acting on ORDERS from the crown, pushed an aggressive stance at the Council. That was his JOB. Alistair and Anora (or any combination that your world state has) APPROVED of this. Let us be clear, the Inquisition, a NGO basically, INVADED Ferelden. Redcliffe was given back, but Crestwood was essentially occupied. STILL was. A foreign power establishes a significant presence in YOUR country after YEARS of illegal occupation by ANOTHER hostile power, and you want him to kiss and play nice? REALLY? If the US, England, or ANY other country in the world that you happen to be living in had a non-aligned foreign power come in, set up shop in a major crossroads area (which Crestwood was) and then just STAY there, I am absolutely certain that your countries ambassador would be LIVID. Saved your country or no...it has been years. They show NO signs of giving it back. His reaction? COMPLETELY justified.
Add to it that he is the ONLY honest one there. Cyril wants Orlais to basically absorb the Inquisition. Teagan knows this. Combine Orlais's forces and the Inquisition military? Unstoppable force. He is TRYING to protect his country. I'd be angry too in his position. This pretty much sums up EXACTLY why Loghain flipped out during DAO. THIS was what he was afraid of. So Ferelden wants the Inquisition to stand down because it is terrified of being overrun...AGAIN. Occupied, THEN they gain their freedom. War Hero betrays the Crown, a Blight happens, and the capital city is demolished. Darkspawn REAPPEAR and do serious damage to a major city and fortress. THEN, a Tevinter splinter group INVADES, takes over a major city and castle. A foreign power comes in, removes them AND removes the hostile power (maybe), but then sets up SHOP along a major trade route...WITHOUT explanation. Now the original occupiers want to absorb that power, and have been saber rattling for a while.
Plus, Cyril? REMEMBER his dad? You know, the one Hawke dropped off a cliff? Cyril shows signs of turning out JUST like dear old dad.
I can't see where he was wrong. I agree with him actually.
I haven't gotten the DLC yet, so I don't know exactly how the council nonsense goes yet, but it sounds like a lot of squawking and bitching and moaning, and very little credit where it's due.
That...is basically what politicians and ambassadors do. If they aren't making you miserable, they aren't doing their jobs. Remember Mass Effects Council? More of the same, heh...
Oh, so it IS the guy from Chateau Haines?
I friggin' knew it.
Oh, so it IS the guy from Chateau Haines?
I friggin' knew it.
Yep...my Hawke(s) dropped him to get the key. Every. Single. One.
So yeah, I'm concerned about Duke Montefort. Someone said in the trailer that he looked like the Grand Duke...maybe that's because he IS. Except, without the cool beard. Give it time.
The thing is, it's not Teagan. You can find a letter from Alistair/ANora that shows that they are the ones who are telling Teagan what to do, Teagan is just a the messenger who is probably grumpy because he is aging badly and Redcliffe always attracts ****. It's Alistair/Anora that have a stick up their ass. He also makes very good points that sadly many gamers will ignore since the average gamer mindset is rude to my character=THAT PERSON IS A DICK
Thanks for posting this. Again, I don't care if there's opposition to the Inquisitions existence because the whole point of Trespasser was to end it, but now that I know this isn't really Teagan I can go back to liking him.
Thanks for posting this. Again, I don't care if there's opposition to the Inquisitions existence because the whole point of Trespasser was to end it, but now that I know this isn't really Teagan I can go back to liking him.
I blame Anora. I ALWAYS blame Anora.
Why? Because he dared argue against the great PC Jesus character? Expect from saying mean words at you, he didn't do anything that makes me hate him.
He was just as rude to Anora/Loghain and Isolde in DAO as he is to you in DAI but no one mades forum complains about him then since being on your side suddenly makes people ok to having a-holes on their teams.
"Did he do what was best for your husband?" - Teagan to Anora. That's way worse to say to a recent Widow than anything he said to the Inquisitor.
He just doesn't like foreign powers running around his country like almost all of Fereldan. I can bet almost any Fereldan noble from DAO would have disagreed with the Inquisition.
*snip*
Not to mention that said NGO is lacking any mandate. The one they had died with Cory two years ago. The Inquisition ist just fueled by "might makes right" at this point.
"Why are you angry and opposing me?! I know what's best for you! Can't you see that?!"
It's rather funny to see how nearly all people will vehemently oppose dictators and tyrants as the PC, but look what happens when the PC is the bully. Cause that's what the Inquisitor is... a dude/gal who waltzes into some place and enforces his/her will because he/she can.
Respectfully,the mandate was to restore order. When Divine Justinia gave the writ to Cassie pooh bear to reform the Inquisition, Cory wasn't even known, so his destruction shouldn't mean they disband.
Respectfully,the mandate was to restore order. When Divine Justinia gave the writ to Cassie pooh bear to reform the Inquisition, Cory wasn't even known, so his destruction shouldn't mean they disband.
Sure, but that "restore order" was referring to the mage - templar war and the underlying problem. A war that's over for two years. At the time of the DLC the Inquisition is only enforcing "order" on the whim and definition of the Inquisitor.
Also King Alistair is not the funny dorky guy that he was in DAO or even GW Alistair in DAI. The guy is harsh and pretty dickish. Anora whipped him pretty good.
Makes perfect sense both him, Anora and higher nobles want the Inquisition gone.
Sure, but that "restore order" was referring to the mage - templar war and the underlying problem. A war that's over for two years. At the time of the DLC the Inquisition is only enforcing "order" on the whim and definition of the Inquisitor.
Only reason why my quizy refuses to disband is because of Solas, if there was not some pseudo elven god running around turning people to stone with blinking and trying to tear down the veil she would happily retire.
Also King Alistair is not the funny dorky guy that he was in DAO or even GW Alistair in DAI. The guy is harsh and pretty dickish. Anora whipped him pretty good.
Makes perfect sense both him, Anora and higher nobles want the Inquisition gone.
Still blaming Anora. Some of the Ferelden nobles were kinda weak willed though...I may not like Anora as much as say...Bhelen, or Seneschal Bran 
...but she is VERY good at what she does. With the exception of when my Cousland Warden basically sent her off to the chopping block and became Queen, she always seemed like the best alternative for Alistair...you know, as opposed to the Archdemon running the show. It WAS a difficult toss up, I know, but...she won the coin toss, so there... 
Still blaming Anora. Some of the Ferelden nobles were kinda weak willed though...I may not like Anora as much as say...Bhelen, or Seneschal Bran
Oh Anora is a very good ruler, I just love teasing her.
Bhelen and Masked Empire Gaspard are my favorite tho.
Yup _ I was disappointed in him too. I wanted to remind him that his King was a Grey Warden so he didn't have to be so nasty. I get that he has experienced difficulties but that's no excuse for rudeness and bilegerence. What an a**
As for his comment about the Wardens. The Wardens didn't save Fereldan Alistair and the HoF did. They were greenhorns, all they know about the order was "kill darkspawn, end blights, whatever it takes." They aren't representatives of the order as a whole and treating them as such is dishonest. So when Teagan refers to the exiling of the Wardens for starting a coup he's not being an ungrateful dick, he's making a valid analogy between two large foreign organizations.
Of course they are representative of the order, they were both Wardens, the last ones in Ferelden. They were where they were due to Duncan a very Wardeny Warden. They enacted official Warden treaties, they stopped the blight due to the Warden's ability. Everyone in DA:O referred to them as Wardens and considered them Wardens. I have no clue where you can base that statement on.
The crown ignored the Wardens (lead by Duncan) about the true threat of the oncoming Blight and not only did the Wardens stop the blight but they saved Ferelden from Loghain, something Teagan and Allistair should be especially supportive of... so yeah the hostility towards the Wardens despite Ferelden only existing because of the Wardens is quite odd.
Not to mention that said NGO is lacking any mandate. The one they had died with Cory two years ago. The Inquisition ist just fueled by "might makes right" at this point.
"Why are you angry and opposing me?! I know what's best for you! Can't you see that?!"
It's rather funny to see how nearly all people will vehemently oppose dictators and tyrants as the PC, but look what happens when the PC is the bully. Cause that's what the Inquisitor is... a dude/gal who waltzes into some place and enforces his/her will because he/she can.
Well in fairness the crown and nobles of both Ferelden and Orlais equally qualify for that, not to discount the reformed Chantry under the new Divine as well... Maybe it's bully envy then.
Of course they are representative of the order, they were both Wardens, the last ones in Ferelden. They were where they were due to Duncan a very Wardeny Warden. They enacted official Warden treaties, they stopped the blight due to the Warden's ability. Everyone in DA:O referred to them as Wardens and considered them Wardens. I have no clue where you can base that statement on.
The crown ignored the Wardens (lead by Duncan) about the true threat of the oncoming Blight and not only did the Wardens stop the blight but they saved Ferelden from Loghain, something Teagan and Allistair should be especially supportive of... so yeah the hostility towards the Wardens despite Ferelden only existing because of the Wardens is quite odd.
Because he was not being hostile to the HoF, he was being hostile to the order it self. There's a difference. One is a person who Teagan pretty much worships (despite the fact you can let Redcliffe become a demon meal), the other is a group that most leaders DON'T like and have caused incidents in the past.
He makes completely reasonable points but if you cant see it i cant help you.
Actually no, he is just a scared little boy because the Inquisition threatened his position of power. It is all just petty power struggles. The point about Inquisition is riddled with spies from the Qunari and Solas is weak because you think both Orlesian and Ferelden armies/government aren't full of spies?
He has a point, however. The Inquisition is little more than the PC's private army and spy service at this point, sitting smack dab on the border of his kingdom, occupying a major stronghold in the kingdom, and in danger of being absorbed by the Orlesians. Ferelden has every reason to want the Inquisition disbanded.
Gratitude towards the Inquisitor is probably why Ferelden waited so long to make their grievances known in the first place. But there is very little they gain from having such a major power sitting too close for comfort.
Plus, when was Teagan ever a super polite sort? He made a serious burn to Anora at the beginning of Inquisition and was passive-agressive to Loghain as well. At least he's honest in his intentions.
Teagen may be rude, but at least he doesn't play the stupid Game. He's way less annoying than anything/anyone Orlesian.
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