He wears it because his hair model is in not in the game so Bioware covered it up like most characters who wear headgear.
By the way: I would really like to meet BioWares "head hat designer"! Ask him/her were all the ideas come from that led to headgear so ridicioulous that not even the biggest dork in a teeny high school comedy would wear it. 
I can understand Teagan being upset and grumpy. I don't understand why they changed the way he looked that much. I understand that he aged...but Bann Sexy deserved to be a silver fox damn it!
Or to add what sophia dryden did as well. Its amusing most people are objecting because how dare someone question our PC. I personally really enjoyed this DLC as it had everything i felt was missing from the series, choice and consequence, semi intelligent characters and a legitimate threat.
Problems with Teagan's apparent irrational hate and why the backlash against it justified:
1) King Arland was a tyrant and Sophia was asked by Ferelden's nobles to revolt (Obscured by time, but still relevant)
2) The Wardens saved Teagan's family and later on, Ferelden
3) The Inquisition just saved Ferelden and the world.
It's one thing to be wary, but something else entirely to act like a jacka$$ towards two organizations who have done nothing but help you and your country.
This man lived through the Orlesian occupation
Nope. He was chilling in the Free Marches for the whole thing and the war.
Problems with Teagan's apparent irrational hate and why the backlash against it justified:
1) King Arland was a tyrant and Sophia was asked by Ferelden's nobles to revolt (Obscured by time, but still relevant)
2) The Wardens saved Teagan's family and later on, Ferelden
3) The Inquisition just saved Ferelden and the world.
It's one thing to be wary, but something else entirely to act like a jacka$$ towards two organizations who have done nothing but help you and your country.
1) And Sophia failed so Arland is remember more positvely now. Levi Dyrden says the name "Dryden" is looked down upon in Fereldan.
Also she used Demons. That's a big no-no in Andrastarians countries so she get's even less points.
2) Alistair (his own nephew) and one other person saved his family no Warden group showed up to save the day.
For Fereldan, Teagan doesn't know that the Wardens have to give their life to stop the Blight so, to him, Grey Wardens are darkspawn enclopedia's at best and an army of Dwarves, elf/werewolve, mages/templar and fereldan soldiers saved the nation with you and Alistair/Loghain who just happened to be Wardens.
3) That's nice. Now go disband since your duty is done and stop hanging around his country 2 years later.
Loghain also saved his country. You don't see Teagan kissing his ass 30 years later.
Since Teagan's main purpose for wanting to disband the Inquisition is because he wants to protect his nation's freedom, then it would be bad for him, if after you disband Gaspard invades. If you put Gaspard on the throne, the only thing that is stopping him from attacking Ferelden is the Inquisition. Without that, nothing is stopping him from going back to being a war monger and now there is no outside force that will intervene. Sorry Ferelden, you're on your own this time and it will be partially the Quizz's fault for putting him on the throne in the first place.
Also, I'm not surprised Teagan looks so bad in the first place. He has been through a lot. His nephew was possessed by a demon and is struggling with survivor guilt, his brother was in a coma for a long time, Redcliff was attacked by an army of zombies, darkspawn, had a bunch of mages, some of whom were children who couldn't control their powers and caused a lot of property damage, and was taken over by a tevinter mage. That is a lot to go through. Plus there is the whole hole in sky spewing out demons to worry about and depending on your actions with Iron Bull's quest, Denerim could be burnt to the ground, again. That's a lot of stress to go through and stress ruins your complexion.
Loghain also saved his country. You don't see Teagan kissing his ass 30 years later.
To be fair, at least Teagan waited until after Loghain let his King/Nephew get killed by darkspawn and subsequently plunged his country into chaos before being an arse to him. I mean we set up shop in an abandoned bandit infested fortress that is apparently so vital to trade Ferelden couldn't be arsed to garrison it in the first place.
If anything I wouldn't be surprised if it was ploy by those ingrates to get a fully renovated Caer Bronach back on the cheap after the Inquisition did all the work of fixing it up, righting the ship in Crestwood and restoring the trade routes.
1) And Sophia failed so Arland is remember more positvely now. Levi Dyrden says the name "Dryden" is looked down upon in Fereldan.
Also she used Demons. That's a big no-no in Andrastarians countries so she get's even less points.
2) Alistair (his own nephew) and one other person saved his family no Warden group showed up to save the day.
For Fereldan, Teagan doesn't know that the Wardens have to give their life to stop the Blight so, to him, Grey Wardens are darkspawn enclopedia's at best and an army of Dwarves, elf/werewolve, mages/templar and fereldan soldiers saved the nation with you and Alistair/Loghain who just happened to be Wardens.
3) That's nice. Now go disband since your duty is done and stop hanging around his country 2 years later.
Loghain also saved his country. You don't see Teagan kissing his ass 30 years later.
1. Wrong. Arland is a barely known king and little is known about him isn't positive or I guess the civil war that followed his death is a sign that he left a good and stable legacy? Even then, I doubt that Levi and his family would stay quiet about what they found out in Soldier's Keep with the intact documents and so-on that were found there, including various letters and items from past banns, arls and so on indicating that whether he was the winner or not, Arland was a madman.
Even then, the Wardens still saved Ferelden in present-day despite being unlawfully declared outlaws.
2. They were still Grey Wardens and were limited in number because of Ostagar and Loghain blocking the Orlesians from sending much needed help in manpower and Grey Warden reinforcements. And numbers don't change the Redcliffe, Teagan's family and nation were saved by said-wardens. A little gratitude is not a hard feat to accomplish.
3. There's a difference between kissing ass and showing respect. Teagan acts like the Inquisition has caused more problems than Orlais...and think about it...it's self-contradicting to be sitting on the same council as the empire that invaded and oppressed your country while condemning and nitpicking the organization that saved your country. Again, it's one thing to be cautious and concerned and other entirely to act as irrationally hateful and disrespectful as Teagan is and it's not exactly consistent with what we've seen of him before. Teagan seems to have shown more respect to Loghain than the Inquisition and that's saying something considering the two situations.
Why should the Inquisition disband? They're not beholden to Ferelden and frankly, Ferelden should've done something about the bandits at Caer Bronach if they didn't want anyone taking the fortress. As Ferelden wasn't even using it beforehand after regaining independence if it can be so easily taken by bandits, they shouldn't be crying over something that they didn't have if it's not disrupting them or if the castle isn't actively harassing their people.
Also, the Grey Wardens were given their own arling in Amaranthine and where's Teagan's outrage there? Oh wait, Teagan didn't take a level in jerkass yet and evidently waited to see what would happen and apparently, that was a good call.
Bottom line, the next time that Teagan gets booted out of his own home, don't expect anyone to help you out if you won't repay good deeds with proper respect and a clear mind rather than blasting both of the organizations that saved your life.
i kinda liked him in DA:O, but in inquisition? i just want to kill this ungrateful bastard.
he hates the inquisition because we kept the peace and now we are "invading" them with our armies in ferelden?
he had the balls to say that's the reason they banned the grey wardens and he even seem proud in badmouthing them.
did this moron forgot that without the grey wardens ferelden would be long destroyed? or even after we defeated corypheus, we keep the peace?
Since Teagan's main purpose for wanting to disband the Inquisition is because he wants to protect his nation's freedom, then it would be bad for him, if after you disband Gaspard invades. If you put Gaspard on the throne, the only thing that is stopping him from attacking Ferelden is the Inquisition. Without that, nothing is stopping him from going back to being a war monger and now there is no outside force that will intervene. Sorry Ferelden, you're on your own this time and it will be partially the Quizz's fault for putting him on the throne in the first place.
Also, I'm not surprised Teagan looks so bad in the first place. He has been through a lot. His nephew was possessed by a demon and is struggling with survivor guilt, his brother was in a coma for a long time, Redcliff was attacked by an army of zombies, darkspawn, had a bunch of mages, some of whom were children who couldn't control their powers and caused a lot of property damage, and was taken over by a tevinter mage. That is a lot to go through. Plus there is the whole hole in sky spewing out demons to worry about and depending on your actions with Iron Bull's quest, Denerim could be burnt to the ground, again. That's a lot of stress to go through and stress ruins your complexion.
Also he probably still remember the last time he was in Orlais what Gaspard did to him.
Arl Teagan.
He is the Arl of Redcliffe now, not a Bann. Eamon had no eligible heirs, so the title and lands went to his brother.
You may now return to your regularly scheduled whatever.
1. Wrong. Arland is a barely known king and little is known about him isn't positive or I guess the civil war that followed his death is a sign that he left a good and stable legacy? Even then, I doubt that Levi and his family would stay quiet about what they found out in Soldier's Keep with the intact documents and so-on that were found there, including various letters and items from past banns, arls and so on indicating that whether he was the winner or not, Arland was a madman.
Even then, the Wardens still saved Ferelden in present-day despite being unlawfully declared outlaws.
2. They were still Grey Wardens and were limited in number because of Ostagar and Loghain blocking the Orlesians from sending much needed help in manpower and Grey Warden reinforcements. And numbers don't change the Redcliffe, Teagan's family and nation were saved by said-wardens. A little gratitude is not a hard feat to accomplish.
3. There's a difference between kissing ass and showing respect. Teagan acts like the Inquisition has caused more problems than Orlais...and think about it...it's self-contradicting to be sitting on the same council as the empire that invaded and oppressed your country while condemning and nitpicking the organization that saved your country. Again, it's one thing to be cautious and concerned and other entirely to act as irrationally hateful and disrespectful as Teagan is and it's not exactly consistent with what we've seen of him before. Teagan seems to have shown more respect to Loghain than the Inquisition and that's saying something considering the two situations.
Why should the Inquisition disband? They're not beholden to Ferelden and frankly, Ferelden should've done something about the bandits at Caer Bronach if they didn't want anyone taking the fortress. As Ferelden wasn't even using it beforehand after regaining independence if it can be so easily taken by bandits, they shouldn't be crying over something that they didn't have if it's not disrupting them or if the castle isn't actively harassing their people.
Also, the Grey Wardens were given their own arling in Amaranthine and where's Teagan's outrage there? Oh wait, Teagan didn't take a level in jerkass yet and evidently waited to see what would happen and apparently, that was a good call.
Bottom line, the next time that Teagan gets booted out of his own home, don't expect anyone to help you out if you won't repay good deeds with proper respect and a clear mind rather than blasting both of the organizations that saved your life.
Keep om mind that those codexes are not historical fact in Thedas. It is just the perception of the person. Also, there is the issue of whether or not Avernus prompted those nobles to rebel with bloodmagic or not.
Nope. He was chilling in the Free Marches for the whole thing and the war.
True. I should say he was alive during the occupation. Point is that he is old enough to remember how dangerous the Orlesians are.
Problems with Teagan's apparent irrational hate and why the backlash against it justified:
1) King Arland was a tyrant and Sophia was asked by Ferelden's nobles to revolt (Obscured by time, but still relevant)
2) The Wardens saved Teagan's family and later on, Ferelden
3) The Inquisition just saved Ferelden and the world.
It's one thing to be wary, but something else entirely to act like a jacka$$ towards two organizations who have done nothing but help you and your country.
1) Whether Arland was a tyrant is irrelevant. Wardens aren't supposed to interfere with politics (even though they do, a lot). Trying to overthrow the monarch of a country is a pretty big deal and it sets dangerous precedents, precedents that shouldn't be forgotten.
2) The HoF and Alistair saved Teagan's family. They were under no orders from the Warden chain of command. They also saved Ferelden with Riordan's help, but the Order can't claim to have been responsible because they had no contact with Ferelden.
3) Yeah the Inquisition saved Ferelden and now they are a paramilitary/espionage organization operating autonomously within Ferelden borders. The Inquisition could be selling Ferelden secrets to other nations, they could be helping Orlais organize another invasion, they could be doing a myriad of other things because they have power and secrecy. Like the Seekers and the Wardens, having power and secrecy leads to dangerous levels of corruption.
The Inquisition in it's current state is a problem of national importance, "Teagan was rude to my Inquisitor and the Wardens" is not a real problem. Let the Orlesians play nice, Teagan has to make it clear that the Inquisitor can't run such an organization the way they see fit, doubly so for the Orlesians.
She was merely imprisoned if she was desposed of. Now, I can imagine that ten years later Alistair wouldn't feel the need anymore to have her locked up so she must've found herself something to do.
She was adamant she wouldn't relinquish her claim, I can't see her ever doing so.
Eamon would have pushed Alistair to kill her, he's a competent political figure there's no way he would support letting such a political threat free, heck Alistair probably would have done it himself considering how dour he seems to have become as king.
Either that or she's still rotting in Fort Drakon
i kinda liked him in DA:O, but in inquisition? i just want to kill this ungrateful bastard.
he hates the inquisition because we kept the peace and now we are "invading" them with our armies in ferelden?
he had the balls to say that's the reason they banned the grey wardens and he even seem proud in badmouthing them.
did this moron forgot that without the grey wardens ferelden would be long destroyed? or even after we defeated corypheus, we keep the peace?
Talk to Teagan after saving Ferelden in the mission In Hushed Whispers.
He's a lot more respectful toward you.
1. Wrong. Arland is a barely known king and little is known about him isn't positive or I guess the civil war that followed his death is a sign that he left a good and stable legacy? Even then, I doubt that Levi and his family would stay quiet about what they found out in Soldier's Keep with the intact documents and so-on that were found there, including various letters and items from past banns, arls and so on indicating that whether he was the winner or not, Arland was a madman.
Even then, the Wardens still saved Ferelden in present-day despite being unlawfully declared outlaws.
Um, I can't be bothered to read after this because Levi pretty much tells you that he didn't tell anyone in his family about what happens at Soldiers peak because they would find Sophia using demons to be unheroic if you talk to him later. So Levi ain't going to be showing those documents around anytime soon.
Don't know if Arland name carries a negative attitude but if Levi was stupid enough to show those document, it would prove that Sophia used demons so she'd be hated even more.
Did you even play the DLC?
Problems with Teagan's apparent irrational hate and why the backlash against it justified:
1) King Arland was a tyrant and Sophia was asked by Ferelden's nobles to revolt (Obscured by time, but still relevant)
2) The Wardens saved Teagan's family and later on, Ferelden
3) The Inquisition just saved Ferelden and the world.
It's one thing to be wary, but something else entirely to act like a jacka$$ towards two organizations who have done nothing but help you and your country.
You know what? From the point of view of the modern aristocracies that Arland was a tyrant and Sophia had some support in her coup attempt is not especially relevant to the potential threat posed by the Wardens, or the Inquisition who are in some ways the Wardens writ large. I'm playing through Soldiers Peak right now, and honestly...not making the Wardens look real good. And it would be a wild exaggeration to say that the Wardens have done nothing but help.
I'm playing through Soldiers Peak right now, and honestly...not making the Wardens look real good. And it would be a wild exaggeration to say that the Wardens have done nothing but help.
Same wild exaggerationcan be applied to Ferelden Monarchy, or any nominal organisation led by HumansSelf-Aware beings. Moreover you must understand that Wardens role in rebelion was lesser that modern days say. Arland usurped throne and left Sophia with chose join Wardens(leave all claims to throne) or die, so she never was part of Wardens to begin with she was - challenger to throne left in command of Military Order. It has been stated as well that some Wardens who didn't agree with Sophia left. Moreover it's stated that Teyrnir Highever was on her side, wich means it was more civil war in wich Wardens caught themselfs in because of decision of Ferelden Monarchy(Arland let her join in first place), than Wardens vs Ferelden war.
Um, I can't be bothered to read after this because Levi pretty much tells you that he didn't tell anyone in his family about what happens at Soldiers peak because they would find Sophia using demons to be unheroic if you talk to him later. So Levi ain't going to be showing those documents around anytime soon.
Don't know if Arland name carries a negative attitude but if Levi was stupid enough to show those document, it would prove that Sophia used demons so she'd be hated even more.
Did you even play the DLC?
Multiple times pal. Kind of disappointed that the Warden couldn't keep the keep as a command center.
Stuff changes in a decade, just look at Teagan as an example.
The documents in question are accounts from lords and so on who account how Arland wiped out whole houses unjustly for merely criticizing the king's decisions. The stuff about Sophia using demons and blood magic is only vaguely alluded to by the Seige Commander's journal and could easily be attributed to normal powerful magic without anything more clarifying.
If Levi went public with the accounts and letters found at Soldier's Peak it would incite several investigations that would shed more light on why rebelling against Arland was ultimately a good/just thing.
Going back on topic (read: Teagan, not Arland), I don't think Teagan was unjustified with his frustration. The Inquisition is a non-governmental superpower with a lot of power in military, intelligence, and diplomacy. When that organization - an organization that answers to nobody but its own leader, who may or may not be a deluded cult leader who views his/herself as the prophet of the Messiah (or at least has followers who view the Inquisitor such) - holds a fortified position full of soldiers and spies within your own borders, wouldn't you also get antsy about it?
It doesn't help that you can't assuage his fears by acquiescing to some of his concerns. You can curtly blurt out "But (Caer Bronach) was full of bandits! You want me to give it back to them?", but you can't go "It was full of bandits at the time, but I'm willing to withdraw my forces if the Fereldan crown wishes to reclaim it."
Also, two points about the "he disrespected the Wardens" bit:
1) Origins started in 9:30 Dragon and Trespasser is in 9:44... that's 14 years later. If people think "two years dead" is enough for Corypheus, imagine what a decade and a half ago amounts to.
2) Don't forget all the crap the Wardens pulled in assisting Corypheus. If the crown knows about that, the Hero of Fereldan alone won't save the organization's rep.
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