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[Varbind]

*DISCLAIMER*

My stats are: 73 con, 103 willpower, 88 cunning

I got and equipped the following equipment before I tried it, so I can only say it it viable with this setup. I get that this severely limits the players that can try it but for those that can see what you think and tell me

RINGS:
Chain lighting ring
Enhanced Barrier ring.

BELT:
Superb belt of the storm pact

WEAPON:
Heart of pride

AMULET:
Amulet of Renewal


Take the following skills, I recommend this order:

- fade shield

level 2 and ready for punishment

- arching surge (chain lightning upgrade)
- gathering storm

level 4 and already a bad ass on perilous

- guardian spirit (this is needed very early because if you get caught without barrier you are likely to be one shotted)
- rejuvenating barrier
- fade cloak
- decloaking blast
- combat clarity

level 9 and nightmare viable

disturbance of spirit
encircling veil
stonefist
shatterstone

level 13 and nightmare bad ass

mind over matter
strength of spirits
restorative veil

level 16 and ready for heart break

finish up with:

defending blade
twisting veil
smothering veil

four actives: chain lighting, stonefist, fade cloak and spirit blade

Way to play:

Spam chain lighting/stonefist combo, use fade cloak for survivability and mix in fade cloak and spirit blade for damage when enemies get near. Focus on the spirit damage abilities for Pride demons etc. Incredibly easy build to use. I think it is so easy to play that I won't bother posting a video, maybe someone will for me. Try it, you will like it, trust me

I know some people say the barrier ring doesn't work for AW but my testing, Luke and others have confirmed it does, see:

http://forum.bioware...3rd-june/page-3

[darreCZ]

aaaaaaaaa, another build of a leaderboard guy:-D

[Spin-Orbit]

aaaaaaaaa, another build of a leaderboard guy:-D

that isn't high stats, a notch above scrub 

[darreCZ]

that isn't high stats, a notch above scrub 

 

if u say so....... i ll play nice today:-D

[Varbind]

I am actually not on the leader board and probably never will be. If you have the equipment to try this build I think it will work regardless of promotions. tt is all about the barrier generation which primarily comes from the base damage of the staff used.

[toddgambit]

Why do people like Heart of Pride so much?  Hakkon staff is better, right?  Serious question.

[Spin-Orbit]

I am actually not on the leader board and probably never will be. If you have the equipment to try this build I think it will work regardless of promotions. tt is all about the barrier generation which primarily comes from the base damage of the staff used.

Varbind

 

Issue with your build is 0 HoK. Iff you get hit before a barrier launch you can bit 1-shoted since your health will be 3 bars, very low and any stray shot your hit with will not have chance to heal or recover. That is not HB build.

 

I use the amulet of physical immunity/hakkon's wrath/Storm belt/chain lightning ring/superb crit damage ring. My staff has HoK and my stats are 2x+ yours

[Spin-Orbit]

Why do people like Heart of Pride so much?  Hakkon staff is better, right?  Serious question.

Perfect staff for the Saarabas since the attack speed increase of 50% helps reduce animation time.

[Varbind]

Why do people like Heart of Pride so much?  Hakkon staff is better, right?  Serious question.

 

I use it for the 50% attack speed buff, and the increase in electrical damage combined with the passive Gathering Storm. You get very very fast cooldowns. For this application I believe it is better than a Hakkon.

[Varbind]

Varbind

 

Issue with your build is 0 HoK. Iff you get hit before a barrier launch you can bit 1-shoted since your health will be 3 bars, very low and any stray shot your hit with will not have chance to heal or recover. That is not HB build.

 

I use the amulet of physical immunity/hakkon's wrath/Storm belt/chain lightning ring/superb crit damage ring. My staff has HoK and my stats are 2x+ yours

 

With the belt I have so little health that I get one shotted on Hearbreak regardless of how much health I have so HOK is useless. On NM it could matter but I found I didnt need it. You have to try this build to believe it, but I will state there is no need for HOK, even on Heartbreak.

 

*EDIT*:

 

I guess I should have added that I did test this on Heartbreak and it handled it easily.

[BreakJohn]

Why do people like Heart of Pride so much?  Hakkon staff is better, right?  Serious question.

 

i remember when i got the heart of pride, i tired it out the very next game. Honestly aside from maybe two kits its not that great, those kits being the new Saarebas and the Elementalist. The Saarebas because it helps her ungodly casting animation times and the elementalist because he doesn't care about damage so much as he does about keeping everything cc'd. 

 

I found the arcane and the rest of the mages don't really care so much about faster casting since their spells are generally pretty fast anyways. Pretty much every other mage appreciates the significant damage boost the hakkon staff provies over the HoP. Although i have heard good things about the heart of pride on the virt, i haven't tried it myself though so i can't vouch for that. 

 

To stay on topic i am currently using FS, FC, SB, CL on my arcane along with the new belt. This is the closest iv'e ever felt to using the geth infiltrator in this game. you do soooo much more damage its insane. spirit blade doing upwards of 10k and chain lighting also doing insane damage, but one or two slip ups and you are done, constitution won't save you here lol. 

[ParthianShotX]

Who wants to volunteer to keep picking me up when I try this?

 

(When I finally have all the goods, that is  )

[Varbind]

but one or two slip ups and you are done, constitution won't save you here lol. 

 

Breakjon, I will try it with the hakkon but I think the increased cool downs that heart of pride provide are incredibly important especially on higher difficulty levels. To your point, you dont want to be running low on barrier and not have CL ready.

 

I will let you know what I find out.

[Proto]

i remember when i got the heart of pride

 

I lol'd.  You'd think you got it months ago and haven't touched it since. 

 

Heart of Pride is nice. You miss the crit damage, though.

[Carbon_Bishop]

I use a similar build with Staff of Razagul (I'm not looking it up) instead, and I love it too, but for Nightmare only as my stats are 30 less across the board than the OP's.  The build centers around the Lightning belt and Lightning element staff as those attacks are also doubled.

 

Only thing i disagree with is the Spirit Blade upgrade.  Unless you tap the button lightning quick, you will usually swipe twice, with the second blade doing less damage than a staff attack because all of the charge is gone.  It also no longer deflects projectiles which is annoying.

 

I will agree with the OP that heal on kill is unnecessary, one hit without your barrier will put you in the fade on Nightmare, let alone Heartbreaker. 

[Varbind]

Only thing i disagree with is the Spirit Blade upgrade. 

 

The reason I get it is for the quicker recharge rate. When I hit an electrical resist mob (Pride demon) I need to use spirit damage to kill them and so the faster recharge is great for that. Try it, see what you think. I am curious though, what do you replace it with?

[JiaJM98]

I agree on this build. HoK is no use for low promotion players since you get 1 shot which ever way when wearing storm pact. The idea is that you get enough barrier even just from your auto attacks. And the storm pact means you actually can kill things pretty fast. Only issue is when you are left with electric resistant mobs only...... I dont mind about bosses with this build. Honest.

[Carbon_Bishop]

The reason I get it is for the quicker recharge rate. When I hit an electrical resist mob (Pride demon) I need to use spirit damage to kill them and so the faster recharge is great for that. Try it, see what you think. I am curious though, what do you replace it with?

 

Definitely Static Charge.  Not being interrupted while casting chain lightning is crucial too the build.   I would take that over twisting veil and smothering veil as well. Those two passives aren't really that valuable without veilstrike or upgraded pull of the abyss imo. Is the 5% weakening chance from Disturbance of Spirit passive enough to make it worth it?

 

I tend to take Force of Will instead, though I've been under the impression that armor reduces barrier damage...if that is not the case then I guess that passive is worthlss too.

[Drasca]

Who wants to volunteer to keep picking me up when I try this?

 

(When I finally have all the goods, that is  )

 

Me me me! Come play PC. Its not like you have tons better stats/gear on console anyway! We'll carry you

[Varbind]

Definitely Static Charge.  Not being interrupted while casting chain lightning is crucial too the build.   I would take that over twisting veil and smothering veil as well.

 

This is good feedback, I will try it and most likely replace smothering veil with it. Thanks

[Wavebend]

Everyone knows the best build for HB is:

1. PotA
2. Fade cloak
3. Dispel
4. Spirit Blade OR Stonefist OR Chain Lightning

With Heart of Pride equipped, do PotA + Fade cloak as often as you can via GS by spamming your basic attack. Spirit Blade once in a while when the counter is up

[Wavebend]

This is good feedback, I will try it and most likely replace smothering veil with it. Thanks

 

Smothering Veil (all damage reduction passives in fact) is garbage in NM/HB. Same for Weakened.

[Yallegro]

I thought enhanced barrier ring didn't work for the arcane

 

For heartbreaker you could at least take PoTa, though I haven't tested the new Spirit Blade

[Varbind]

Smothering Veil (all damage reduction passives in fact) is garbage in NM/HB. Same for Weakened.

 

An assertion without any justification, not very useful. I will bite, why?

[Yallegro]

Smothering Veil (all damage reduction passives in fact) is garbage in NM/HB. Same for Weakened.

 

 

-Ice Armor/ Chilled Defense

-Crippling Blows (stacks)

-Armor buff/Frontal Defense buff

 

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