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How could they have stayed in the Milky Way without canonizing an ending or homogenizing the endings?


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#51
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Come on people. Staying in one galaxy is lame. We live in times where we most likely won't see anything beyond Earth. MEA will give us chance to see something BEYOND. ISN'T THAT AWESOME. COME ON. BE HYPED WITH ME.

 

There are plenty of people here who are either hyped for Andromeda, or at least willing to give it a chance. 



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There are plenty of people here who are either hyped for Andromeda, or at least willing to give it a chance. 

 

Yeah, I'm hyped for the game.  The Andromeda setting is fine with me.  As long as the 3rd person shooter gameplay, with biotics, cool tech powers, solid characters and a decent story are back they can place it anywhere and I'd have fun and consider it a ME game.



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Yeah, I'm hyped for the game.  The Andromeda setting is fine with me.  As long as the 3rd person shooter gameplay, with biotics, cool tech powers, solid characters and a decent story are back they can place it anywhere and I'd have fun and consider it a ME game.

 

As much as I'd love to see the series return to the Milky Way eventually and explore the aftermath of ME3, I also think going the Stranger in a Strange Land route could provide a lot of interesting storytelling opportunities. I'm willing to give the writers a chance and see what they do with it. 



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They could have gone with a stranger in a strange land theme for any number of possibilities inside the Milky Way.  Colonists in the Terminus, immediate after math of the FCW, and so on.

 

Its going to take a lot to convince me that the move to Andromeda was a good idea


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They could have gone with a stranger in a strange land theme for any number of possibilities inside the Milky Way.  Colonists in the Terminus, immediate after math of the FCW, and so on.

 

Its going to take a lot to convince me that the move to Andromeda was a good idea

 

They'd have to address the endings to ME3 however if they stayed in the Milky Way, unless they went the prequel or sidequel route. The move to Andromeda is solely so they won't have to deal with those endings. They'll never admit that of course, but it is fairly obvious why this game isn't being set in the Milky Way.



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They could have gone with a stranger in a strange land theme for any number of possibilities inside the Milky Way.  Colonists in the Terminus, immediate after math of the FCW, and so on.

 

Its going to take a lot to convince me that the move to Andromeda was a good idea

 

I just don't see why it is worse in anyway than staying.  What makes it being the terminus system better than Andromeda.  I actually kind of dig it as it opens up some brand new possibilities with races that would make less sense in the MW galaxy. And outside IT I don't see much of a way to handle the endings. 



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They'd have to address the endings to ME3 however if they stayed in the Milky Way, unless they went the prequel or sidequel route. The move to Andromeda is solely so they won't have to deal with those endings. They'll never admit that of course, but it is fairly obvious why this game isn't being set in the Milky Way.

Yes, and I'm not sold on that being a good idea at all.

 

This reeks of cowardice or incompetence and I can't decide which is worse.  That they can't think of any possibilities for the Milky Way, or that they are so spineless they won't even try


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I just don't see why it is worse in anyway than staying.  What makes it being the terminus system better than Andromeda.  I actually kind of dig it as it opens up some brand new possibilities with races that would make less sense in the MW galaxy. And outside IT I don't see much of a way to handle the endings. 

because the move to a new galaxy was not dictated by the writers looking for an exciting new setting to use for their storyline, it was predicated by the monumental backlash to the ME3 ending.  Non-writers are starting to dictate the course of the franchise, and I doubt it will end well for BioWare is they are so terrified of upsetting their fans that they continuously put out material that shies away from tackling hard plot lines.


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Probably the latter.

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Yes, and I'm not sold on that being a good idea at all.

This reeks of cowardice or incompetence and I can't decide which is worse. That they can't think of any possibilities for the Milky Way, or that they are so spineless they won't even try


That's stupid. You're basically saying "you should marry the girl/boy who broke your heart and left your life in shambles. Moving on with your life is for sissies."

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because the move to a new galaxy was not dictated by the writers looking for an exciting new setting to use for their storyline, it was predicated by the monumental backlash to the ME3 ending.  Non-writers are starting to dictate the course of the franchise, and I doubt it will end well for BioWare is they are so terrified of upsetting their fans that they continuously put out material that shies away from tackling hard plot lines.

Indeed if they end up writing themselves into the corner again they'll have no idea how to get out of it since they choose to run away from it instead of dealing with it.


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That's stupid. You're basically saying "you should marry the girl/boy who broke your heart and left your life in shambles. Moving on with your life is for sissies."

this isn't moving on, its never talking about the relationship, pretending it never happened, and moving to a new continent


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this isn't moving on, its never talking about the relationship, pretending it never happened, and moving to a new continent


Why should they risk many millions of dollars just to prove to some pissy forum goers that they're not a scared of the endings? What would it accomplish? They would be developing with their arms tied behind their backs for no good reason.

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this isn't moving on, its never talking about the relationship, pretending it never happened, and moving to a new continent

 

Not necessarily true.  They can talk about them and deal with them to some degree while in Andromeda, but in the MW the differences are too fast to deal with on a technical level outside the 3 different game idea, IT or picking a canon ending. They may ignore the ending they may not, if they don't some people will be pissed with how they dealt with it, if they don't deal with it at all others will be pissed. I'm fine either way.



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this isn't moving on, its never talking about the relationship, pretending it never happened, and moving to a new continent

More like moving to Mars.  With today's tech.


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That's stupid. You're basically saying "you should marry the girl/boy who broke your heart and left your life in shambles. Moving on with your life is for sissies."

:huh: 

 

 

No, not at all. Analogy fail. Try again.



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They'd have to address the endings to ME3 however if they stayed in the Milky Way, unless they went the prequel or sidequel route. The move to Andromeda is solely so they won't have to deal with those endings. They'll never admit that of course, but it is fairly obvious why this game isn't being set in the Milky Way.

 Which would be totally fine, regardless of some fans illogical arguments against such a thing.



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:huh:


No, not at all. Analogy fail. Try again.


It's a fine analogy. You've said nothing to show otherwise.

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Which would be totally fine, regardless of some fans illogical arguments against such a thing.


What about just plain not wanting a prequel or sidequel? No argument, just no interest.

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It's a fine analogy. You've said nothing to show otherwise.

 he's pointing out the fact that they're entirely abandoning  their established fictional setting, and you say it's like staying in a bad relationship. There's no further explanation needed. You don't make any sense. It's entirely possible to move on whilst staying in the Milky Way. 



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What about just plain not wanting a prequel or sidequel? No argument, just no interest.

 yeah, those that feel that way, that's their problem. Not a problem for the creative process. Not an obstacle in the way of crafting an entertaining story. 



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he's pointing out the fact that they're entirely abandoning their established fictional setting, and you say it's like staying in a bad relationship. There's no further explanation needed. You don't make any sense. It's entirely possible to move on whilst staying in the Milky Way.


No, he said they need to deal with the endings lest they show themselves to be scared and incompetent. The endings left the franchise on shaky ground and the setting unworkable. Keeping the franchise in the Milky Way for some macho BS reasons is objectively stupid. These games cost as much to make as Hollywood Summer blockbusters. Making stupid decisions for stupid reasons risks tens of millions of dollars and people's jobs.

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yeah, those that feel that way, that's their problem. Not a problem for the creative process. Not an obstacle in the way of crafting an entertaining story.


It's clearly not their problem since BioWare doesn't want prequels or sidequels either.

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No, he said they need to deal with the endings lest they show themselves to be scared and incompetent. 

 No, he didn't.

 

 

 

This reeks of cowardice or incompetence and I can't decide which is worse.  That they can't think of any possibilities for the Milky Way, or that they are so spineless they won't even try

 he's specifically speaking of the Milky Way itself. 



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No, he didn't.

he's specifically speaking of the Milky Way itself.


...you just proved me right and you don't even seem to realize it. Look at that quote again. He says they're either incompetent for not being able to salvage the setting after the horrendous endings or they're too cowardly to try.