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How could they have stayed in the Milky Way without canonizing an ending or homogenizing the endings?


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It's clearly not their problem since BioWare doesn't want prequels or sidequels either.

 no, Bioware's gun-shy in regards to exercising their creativity after the ending backlash. As a result they're listening to the loudest voices in the room (and a handful of surveys).

 

 

 

You don't know what they want. 



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no, Bioware's gun-shy in regards to exercising their creativity after the ending backlash. As a result they're listening to the loudest voices in the room (and a handful of surveys).
You don't know what they want.


The hypocrisy here is astounding. I don't know what they want to do, despite them saying what they want to do, but you know the inner workings of their minds?

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...you just proved me right and you don't even seem to realize it. Look at that quote again. He says they're either incompetent for not being able to salvage the setting after the horrendous endings or they're too cowardly to try.

 You must not be able to read. Maybe stop posting til you learn how to. The word "ending" was not mentioned a single time in SteelCan's post. He literally says it's cowardice and/or incompetence that they can't and/or won't think of any possibilities for the Milky Way and are instead abandoning it. 

 

Try again.

 

 

Or don't. You're making yourself look more and more foolish.


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The hypocrisy here is astounding. I don't know what they want to do, despite them saying what they want to do, but you know the inner workings of their minds?

They never said what they wanted, bud. They had a couple fans take a survey at a convention and let them speak for all of us.



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yeah, those that feel that way, that's their problem. Not a problem for the creative process. Not an obstacle in the way of crafting an entertaining story.


True. Moving to Andromeda isn't an obstacle in the way of crafting an entertaining story either.
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They never said what they wanted, bud. They had a couple fans take a survey at a convention and let them speak for all of us.


They also did random surveys on the internet. That's how we got the big Andromeda leak.

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You must not be able to read. Maybe stop posting til you learn how to. The word "ending" was not mentioned a single time in SteelCan's post. He literally says it's cowardice and/or incompetence that they can't and/or won't think of any possibilities for the Milky Way and are instead abandoning it. 
 
Try again.
 
Or don't. You're making yourself look more and more foolish.


This is genuinely astounding. I'm not sure if you're being willfully obtuse or just too proud to admit that they've taken up a stupid argument.
What is the title of this thread?
Why did you say SteelCan said the Milky Way itself was either incompetent or cowardly?

You've made NO sense.

They never said what they wanted, bud. They had a couple fans take a survey at a convention and let them speak for all of us.


They said in 2014 that they didn't want to make prequels or parallel stories because the stakes were so much lower and the stories inherently less interesting than the trilogy.
And FYI, they never said what they felt. You're not a mind reader. You're just a silly human being.

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They simply couldn't because Synthesis is impossible in the way it was presented. If they had to continue it, they'd have to retcon synthesis or at least the way synthesis worked, because there's no way EDI can be alive in that body when she's not actually housed in it.



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This is genuinely astounding. I'm not sure if you're being willfully obtuse or just too proud to admit that they've taken up a stupid argument.
What is the title of this thread?
Why did you say SteelCan said the Milky Way itself was either incompetent or cowardly?

 It's true. You can't read. 

 

 

SteelCan said it is either incompetence or cowardice (on Bioware's part, not the Milky Way. The Milky Way can't be incompetent or cowardly, it's not sentient, smart one. It's a goddamn galaxy.) 

 

Bioware is either cowardly for abandoning the story possibilities within the Milky Way OR they are incompetent because they can't think of any.

 

 

Title of the thread is: How could they have stayed in the Milky Way without canonizing an ending or homogenizing the endings?

 

 

He just gave you examples. You're just too narrowminded to think of anything besides something taking place AFTER ME3. Even when it's in plain text in front of your face.



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They could have gone with a stranger in a strange land theme for any number of possibilities inside the Milky Way.  Colonists in the Terminus, immediate after math of the FCW, and so on.

 

Its going to take a lot to convince me that the move to Andromeda was a good idea

 

 

Nothing to do with the endings. And in the Milky Way.

 

 

This reeks of cowardice or incompetence and I can't decide which is worse.  That they can't think of any possibilities for the Milky Way, or that they are so spineless they won't even try

 See that, Killroy  ? Not a single mention of the ending. That's what your thread asks for, is it not? A way to stay in the Milky Way without the burden of the endings. Well, there's more possibilities other than the aftermath of ME3. The MEU is rich with history. They could avoid the Reaper era entirely.

 

 

 

Next time read carefully. Your point holds no water because you don't even understand what anybody (SteelCan or I) are saying, obviously. You asked for a way to stay in the Milky Way and not canonize or homogenize the endings. Easy. You don't do a game in the aftermath of the endings. If you would've read that instead of spouting nonsense, putting words in peoples mouths and needlessly injecting the endings into the possibilities that SteelCan threw out there, maybe you would've realized that. 

 

 

You make zero sense. It's as if you don't want to have the answer to your own question (the title of the thread.) 



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We can still hear Milky Way stories in MEA from the descendants of the past. And that's it, nothing more of the Milky Way, only rumors and stories and legends.



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 See that, Killroy  ? Not a single mention of the ending. That's what your thread asks for, is it not? A way to stay in the Milky Way without the burden of the endings. Well, there's more possibilities than After said endings ever happened. The MEU is rich with history. They could avoid the Reaper era entirely.


Wouldn't you two be better off waiting for Steelcan to drop by and tell us exactly what he meant?

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It's true. You can't read. 
 
SteelCan said it is either incompetence or cowardice (on Bioware's part, not the Milky Way. The Milky Way can't be incompetent or cowardly, it's not sentient, smart one. It's a goddamn galaxy.) 
Bioware is either cowardly for abandoning the story possibilities within the Milky Way OR they are incompetent because they can't think of any.

Title of the thread is: How could they have stayed in the Milky Way without canonizing an ending or homogenizing the endings?
 
He just gave you examples. You're just too narrowminded to think of anything besides something taking place AFTER ME3. Even when it's in plain text in front of your face.


The irony is astounding. You can't even read your own posts.

Arguing with you is pointless. You make no sense, you think you're infallible and a mind reader, and you don't even realize it.

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Wouldn't you two be better off waiting for Steelcan to drop by and tell us exactly what he meant?

 Written plain as day in his text. He literally suggests a game in the aftermath of the First Contact War. That doesn't need an explanation at all. That keeps us in the Milky Way without canonizing or homogenizing the endings, because it take place way before Shepard Trilogy. 

 

Then you have the smart OP coming in, putting words in SteelCan's mouth, saying he said they were cowardly for running from the endings, when the truth is that he said they were cowards for running from the setting. It doesn't get much clearer.



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The irony is astounding. You can't even read your own posts.

Arguing with you is pointless. You make no sense, you think you're infallible and a mind reader, and you don't even realize it.

Not a mind reader. Just someone who can read. Unlike you. The guy gave you a story possibility for staying in the Milky Way without canonizing or homogenizing an ending. You ignored it 



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It would appear that I need to clarify a bit.

 

There are numerous possibilities for stories in the Milky Way that do not relate to the endings in any way.  Prequels or concurrent stories are possible, and I personally would love to see BioWare's take on a ME2 style story in a remote part of the Galaxy such as the Deep Terminus systems or in the immediate aftermath of the FCW.  These do not require BioWare to touch the endings, and they let us stay in the ME and with the races and conflicts we know and want to see more about.


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It would appear that I need to clarify a bit.

 

There are numerous possibilities for stories in the Milky Way that do not relate to the endings in any way.  Prequels or concurrent stories are possible, and I personally would love to see BioWare's take on a ME2 style story in a remote part of the Galaxy such as the Deep Terminus systems or in the immediate aftermath of the FCW.  These do not require BioWare to touch the endings, and they let us stay in the ME and with the races and conflicts we know and want to see more about.

There was an official poll around here, very early in development. Sequel won over prequel by a significant margin. I don't think as many people would be interested in that kind of story.



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There was an official poll around here, very early in development. Sequel won over prequel by a significant margin. I don't think as many people would be interested in that kind of story.

the fans shouldn't dictate what direction BioWare takes the francise


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the fans shouldn't dictate what direction BioWare takes the francise

I agree. They should do as they please. And it seems Andromeda is what they please. I don't think there's much point in wondering what might have been.



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I don't think it could be done.

 

But just for the heck of it I'd like to see a sequel/spinoff game that canonizes synthesis and is set on a planet with a medieval level of technology, i.e. having a population that has likely no idea about the reaper conflict at all. One morning, everyone wakes up with cybernetic implants. Just like that. Whooo!

 

As a plan B, let's just get out of the galaxy.



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I agree. They should do as they please. And it seems Andromeda is what they please. I don't think there's much point in wondering what might have been.

had the reaction to ME3 been less....bombastic, I guarantee you we wouldn't be moving to a new galaxy


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had the reaction to ME3 been less....bombastic, I guarantee you we wouldn't be moving to a new galaxy


The issue would still be the same. The endings are far too different to incorporate without negating them in some way. They would still have to either pick one as canon or homogenize them in such a way as to make your choice irrelevant.

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you could tell killroy that water is wet and he would argue with you



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It would appear that I need to clarify a bit.

There are numerous possibilities for stories in the Milky Way that do not relate to the endings in any way. Prequels or concurrent stories are possible, and I personally would love to see BioWare's take on a ME2 style story in a remote part of the Galaxy such as the Deep Terminus systems or in the immediate aftermath of the FCW. These do not require BioWare to touch the endings, and they let us stay in the ME and with the races and conflicts we know and want to see more about.

So this isn't just about ducking the endings, it's about ducking all of ME3, since ME3 resolves the quarian-geth conflict and radically transforms the genophage issue if it doesn't resolve that too.

OK. But I think it's a little unfair to accuse Bio of incompetence and/or cowardice for not liking this idea. Can't they just think it's a bad idea?