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***Do PUGs get a bad name? A 17 plus week study of the average pick up player***


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Everyone loves to complain about them. Yes I know and while they are bad at times, I believe they are given a bad name. I have met some that are good and even some that made it to my friends list.

So I have decided to do a study, survey, test. Whatever you want to call it. Starting Sunday I will play games with only PUGs and I will take notes of how well they do or how awful they are. And see if any of them can beat me.

Feel free to post your notes on how your games go with PUGs

Week one:

Lost to a skilled PUG

Week two:

O-2 kill me now
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Dalakaar

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I believe these two gif's sum up my feelings on the subject adequately.

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During my 100+ hours of MP, I've exclusively done PUGs, possibly because I am anti-social.



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I've done over 3 years of study. And they're all scrubs. Your welcome OP I saved you the agony of what you are thing to do.
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I believe these two gif's sum up my feelings on the subject adequately.

 

 

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Just like to point out, it's not dead.

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The NightMan Cometh

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LOL "Good Pugs" ....

 

I am a serial pugger..which means ..all I do is PUG

 

every once in awhile I am shocked by how good 1 of them are..1 .....

 

 

 

Once every 30-40 or so games 1 pug will shock me by scoring higher than I thought they would... 



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I Just started playing a few weeks back.  Probably have 30-40 hours in and all i do is pug.  I apparently suck as I just got kicked from a silver match tonight.  I don't really care, I've been trying to play out of my comfort zone with more front line types like the krogan vanguard.  How I keep missing with the heavy melee I don't know. I'm in a spot where bronze is a bit too easy, but I usually rank bottom of the barrel in silver.(and when people bump us to gold without saying anything, I spend more time face down than on my feet)

 

Overall though I like to pug, like one of the above posters I'm anti-social.  For me grouping with people I know usually makes me tense. Using Wow as an example back in the day when I played it, I hated when one of my friends would message me about doing a dungeon. I felt pressured into doing it, even though no pressure was intended. But Pugs I never feel pressure, and if the teamwork sucks and we get wiped who cares I'm still having fun.


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Pugs are pugs.



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I only play pugs therefore I guess I am a pug

 

haven't played a game with friends in over a year


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I dropped into a PUG with some guy called "nat in the closet" or something...it was terribad. 
 

But...yeah...PUGs are bad. Except for when they're good. But I think the servers are psychic, because recently every time I've had a run of bad PUGs and hit the U/U/G search dreading what kind of BS it's gonna throw at me, it gives me a BSNer. 

I'm gonna leave the unintentional semi-pun there.

Hahahahahahaha I said semi lolololz


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I love PUGing. The big majority of my ME3 career has been matches with randoms and I've enjoyed it all (except random glitchers/cheaters). I'd attribute a lot of my progression as a player to these matches.

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Well the last pug I played one of them told me powers were better than weapons and I didn't know what I was talking about. I seen he was using a Tempest VII and chuckled and told him he was right and that I was a noob and then promptly made a party so I didn't have to listen to his stupid mouth anymore. So I've come to the conclusion that the bulk majority do suck, with a few good ones mixed in.
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Pugs do get a bad name, cuz most of us complain about how bad they are rather than trying to help them.


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FluffyCannibal

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Pugs do get a bad name, cuz most of us complain about how bad they are rather than trying to help them.

HEY! Me and my friends taught an N7 8 how to play Gold and Platinum once. We didn't even troll him or anything.


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I personally like playing pugs because it makes it fun to play. And you don't know what to expect. Plus I feel like I improve better when I play pugs.
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I personally like playing pugs because it makes it fun to play. And you don't know what to expect. Plus I feel like I improve better when I play pugs.

 

Pugs are a random, chaotic element that can make the game harder as much as easier.  Watching after them can put you into situations that you would not have gotten yourself into if you had been solo/duo.  They are like a mini-objective.


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I learned to solo by playing with pugs. Since I've been almost exclusively pugging for 3+ years, I wonder if that is why I don't have much patience for solos?

 

Playing with pugs usually keeps things interesting for me. If all I did was play with lobbies full of good players, then the only challenges are how fast can we get this done (rockets optional), who will hit various milestones first (or everyone fails to hit a certain milestone, and we all get 10WS), and "Can I find something to kill?"

 

I like the mini-objectives where I have to figure out how to keep the pugs in the LZ on Ghost or Goddess alive for nearly two minutes on extraction, or revive the guy who was role-playing a Krogan a little too well. 

 

The funny thing is, I am finding more lobbies full of good players these days. I can't really complain about that either -- I find that I am a better player the more I play with good players (and that does explain why I am still such a scrub). For this reason, I suspect a "scientific" investigation into this topic now will only yield results pertinent to, er, now. I expect OP will write this caveat into his "Limitations" section.



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Having spent the main part of my time on pugging I can say that there of course are a lot of great players in the random lobbies as well as really bad players. These days I spend the main part of my limited gaming time on solos but I try to get some pug games in now and then, as I might manage one or two pug games I'm a bit selective with the platinum lobbies I stay in, there are some really good players I run into that I'll always play with as I know they will do their best and it will be good games, but now and then you get into games you which you never joined with pugs bleeding out on the opposite side of the map during objectives, making clutching practically impossible as they have managed a few random spawn nukes before going down.

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If you find a bsn'er while pugging, do they still count as a pug? Because wether you do or don't count them as pugs will make a substantial difference to your results.

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If you find a bsn'er while pugging, do they still count as a pug? Because wether you do or don't count them as pugs will make a substantial difference to your results.

 

I don't count them as pugs



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Surely 90% of the good pugs will be bsners? And therefore be discounted from the results. So pugs will be average at best?

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Well, I'd say PUGing is about the ultimate medal a GreatestOfTheBest can achieve (in my eyes):

Try mastering a plat/gold :
1) 11 waves of random 1/4 hit spawn nuking (esp. during objectives),
2) mini monster-magnets with lvl3 tempests , pulling enemies from miles yonder to you while you're minding your own business trying to do solo-objectives, (alone).
3) dying literally under your feet, only to medi-gel , when you (irresponsibly) do change your mind in the last second.
4) scattering enemies all over, resulting in gnats hiding in the smallest crevices imaginable. Geth scan 360 deg of that.
5) overwriting primes with salad dressing,
6) failing any communication means (contextually +conceptually)
7) ...

on top of the predictable "game mechanics".


In short, plan to survive the unimaginably unpredictable, then,

in the words of Rudyard Kipling, 'If' u dig this, without grumble , you'd be a true dawg. (slightly adapted from original for forum audience)
Sidenote. BoTB is simply the entry exam for legends. Mod crack this!

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The NightMan Cometh

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After completing a very intense study session last night, I have to come to the conclusion that it's not global warming we should be worried about. It's PUGs.



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Everything you need to know about PUGs in 3...2..1...

 

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^^^ LOL times 7 

 

30 minute Gold..on White?   how much did 1 person have to solo of that?