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***Do PUGs get a bad name? A 17 plus week study of the average pick up player***


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#126
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There's some good sub-topics in this thread, here are my thoughts on:

 

Mic vs. No-Mic:  I think mics are generally good, but it can get awkward.  I've found console text chat in lobby and PTT mic in game as a good compromise.  Probably the best reason to use a mic in a PUG is for missile conservation / deconfliction for spawn-nuking and targets, but with so many score-hungry players out there, it can be a moot point.

 

Kill Stealing:  This is a non-issue, with one exception.  People who get butthurt about getting kills that they've allegedly "claimed" credited to others, really need to just get over this.  In the end you should just want things to die as fast as possible, so who cares who gets credit.  The exception is melee krogans (especially the warlord) and vorchas.  They need their kills for survivability - but this problem is easily addressed, just don't target the same mooks as the vorchas and melee krogans on your team.

 

On judging teammates based on kit/loadout:  Common sense dictates.  Their loadout should convey their playstyle.  Choice to use a common weapon is not indicative of experience (unless it is not at X).  IMO, for platinum games, choice of gear is a really good indicator of a player's experience level.  AC5 (and Geth Scanner to a lesser extent) is usually not taken by inexperienced players, for example.

 

On scoreboarding/not doing objectives/not reviving:  This is not always a bad thing.  I am not going to revive a DOA player unless they are in my direct AO and I'm not in the line of fire.  I don't like getting 15 revive medals, but I still get them every now and then.  Experienced players may not be doing the objective in an effort to draw aggro away from the objective.  This can be very effective on plat.  You should be able to tell if their intention is to draw aggro (grinding) vs. running up their personal score (nuking).  Scoreboarding/spawn nuking is fun.  You should try it sometime.  Just make sure you save a couple nukes for wave 10 targets/devices!

 

On rage quitting:  If it is U/U/P and we get Geth/Condor, I'm going to rage quit.  Just being honest.  I will also rage quit if I get sync'd on wave 1 and have time to finish a beer before my teammates clear the wave.


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#127
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I can create a magical thread that will instantly change all bad pugs to great players.  However, in the process, it will simultaneously change all "Cry-About-Terrible-PUGs" threads to "So Many Hackers Online" threads.  

 

Choose wisely...



#128
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Oh snap son,

 

 

  It's about that time PUG-Lifers...just placed my beer order..it will be here within 30 minutes. Time for new adventures..I wanna see all kinds of strange 2nite..give me the weirdest setups I have ever witnessed..I am begging      ...last week was so tame..I can't believe it is possible to have good / fast PUGs for 2 consecutive weeks...do not disappoint me RNG god.



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^ Oh, so beer and playing ME3mp is becoming a trend again... lucky I still have beer in the fridge too. Just warming up with some videogame tunes and a can of Coca-Cola first.

 

 

Wonder is I should do my own ME3mp pug science study? Or if I should just warm up to playing guitar again? (Come finger callus. Almost there again... so many hobbies. They are all conflicting for my time. Good thing I'm still jobless. Just need to finish getting the grill too... wait, that would most probably = getting a job too... like I've said, everything is conflicting for my time. Think I'll just play ME3mp sooner to forget all my worries and drown it with booze... am I doing it right?)


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^ Oh, so beer and playing ME3mp is becoming a trend again... lucky I still have beer in the fridge too. Just warming up with some videogame tunes and a can of Coca-Cola first.

 

 

Wonder is I should do my own ME3mp pug science study? Or if I should just warm up to playing guitar again? (Come finger callus. Almost there again... so many hobbies. They are all conflicting for my time. Good thing I'm still jobless. Just need to finish getting the grill too... wait, that would most probably = getting a job too... like I've said, everything is conflicting for my time. Think I'll just play ME3mp sooner to forget all my worries and drown it with booze... am I doing it right?)

 

Getting a job and playing the guitar would both greatly contribute to getting the grill


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#131
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^ lol. 

 

That is all I have to say. Thanks for making my day. Your like is in the mail.


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#132
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Beers here.  that did it.  I am dropping into PUG mode...anyone wanna get down on xbox..hit me up: Kaiju Sozay.


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^ I would. But you'd probably record my newfound scrubbyness and expose me on BSN.

 

Also nothing clean. Right. Need to do laundry again instead of drinking... or maybe I'll do it in the morning?...



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^ I would. But you'd probably record my newfound scrubbyness and expose me on BSN.

 

Also nothing clean. Right. Need to do laundry again instead of drinking... or maybe I'll do it in the morning?...

 

real men play naked


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#135
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real men play naked

 

Real%20men%20play%20naked.jpg

 

While I was uploading this comic, the ad I got was for Herbal Essences naked hair wash. I kid not.

 

PS - I love those reaction looks of these pugs in this comic so much. Especially the first then the third pug.


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Update.

I was just made to look like a clown by a PUG from NY. I had host so i dont know man.


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Getting a job and playing the guitar would both greatly contribute to getting the grill

 

 

Wait. Were you drunk?! I sense no trolling, sarcasm, or l2p in this post. I am disappointed in you! I come to your posts looking for amusing trolls of bad PUGs, and instead you give good and true life advice?! My world view is shattered!


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#138
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^ But he's also a Salarian. So he's very smart and full of great advice.


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Wait. Were you drunk?! I sense no trolling, sarcasm, or l2p in this post. I am disappointed in you! I come to your posts looking for amusing trolls of bad PUGs, and instead you give good and true life advice?! My world view is shattered!

 

Salarians exist to serve and uplift.  Trolling, sarcasm, and L2P are only a few of the many ways we do so.


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Getting a job and playing the guitar would both greatly contribute to getting the grill


A notable exception to that is bass guitar players. They usually allow their girlfriends to pay the rent. So no need to work...
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#141
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Alright, PUG-LAND  

 

just got me beer...let's do this.... If you are on xbox now..hit me up: Kaiju Sozay  


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Ryan Grigson is the G. O. A. T.


That is all
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I am PUG :(

I can't help that all my friends have moved on to XBone or(like me) PS4!

#144
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Yep, I just bumped Nat's thread.. all I want to know is...who is coming with me?? Come on, who is coming with me man? ...insert a gif of jim breuer from half baked here...I will be on in about 20 minutes..let's PUG it up.....



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Kill Stealing:  This is a non-issue, with one exception.  People who get butthurt about getting kills that they've allegedly "claimed" credited to others, really need to just get over this.  In the end you should just want things to die as fast as possible, so who cares who gets credit.  The exception is melee krogans (especially the warlord) and vorchas.  They need their kills for survivability - but this problem is easily addressed, just don't target the same mooks as the vorchas and melee krogans on your team.

Oh man, you took the words right out of my mouth on this one.  The other day I actually had a dude come on mic mid game and say "DUDE, STOP CHEATING".  I assumed he meant me since I was outscoring all 3 of them combined (London, Geth, Pugs).  After the game I messaged him and told him I don't cheat, and he said, "Oh, you weren't cheating, you were just ks'ing everything."  I didn't even know ks'ing meant kill stealing until I asked him, and when he told me, I called the wambulance and he didn't message me back.  I gave him a quick L2P as well.


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#146
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..me since I was outscoring ... just ks'ing ... meant kill stealing ..L2P as well.


:) ...and that, ladies and gentlemen (and the rest) , is exactly why, it is open hunting season to all.
Absolute no exception. None. Zadda. Not this race or that because they're raging, flimsy, have wrong pants on or shottie forgotten in mom's SUV.

No way Jose.

If you dress the krogan, learn the spawns and don't pitch late to the festivities, if you vorcha, then learn to compensate when you stim pack mooks are recalled 4 higher services, by players that don't suck with sniping. Of course it is a learning curve from silver where u were to used be at the top of the food chain. Gold is different and plat humbles the one or other Meleeing Krogan to become fast food theselves pretty quickly.
Adapt or die.
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Real%20men%20play%20naked.jpg

 

While I was uploading this comic, the ad I got was for Herbal Essences naked hair wash. I kid not.

 

PS - I love those reaction looks of these pugs in this comic so much. Especially the first then the third pug.

 

I had to share this to remind everyone of it.... And because for some unknowable reason, my wife and I decided to watch it the other night, and I pointed this out to her then, so I had to show it to her.


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#148
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Despite mine & flask-in-the-caps debacle last night, I have chosen to bump one of his 97 alt accounts threads..to inform the Pug land.. I will be seeing you within the next 2 hours...I am thinking...i want to get an all Collector Adept team vs Collectors..anyone interested?  XBL: Kaiju Sozay



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I'll safely say that 90% of pugs are garbage or don't understand the mechanics. People just drop into Gold/Plat (sometimes against their will admittedly) and expect to be carried or just have no clue. If you want to max your manifest or get good, you've got to put in the time, simple as that. It gets annoying when people demand plat when they can't even handle Silver. What's worse is many of them don't use equipment whether in game (medigel/packs/missles outside of wave 11 or targets) or in lobby (amps/mods). Or you have straight up bums like juggernauts, Snap Cheesers and Cain Mine spammers (what the hell have I created?). Though the Reegar/Harrier tryhards while lame, at least put in effort.

 

There's still quite a few great or good players I've bumped into, and I try to send them a friend and/or chat invite.


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#150
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... Make love not war...


That bad ey? I'm sorry to have dissapointed you man. It was the best my volus engie could muster... I wanted to suggest high/ lowpoints thread- but u got a point with this pattern. Btw how long did flowdey flower stay after I left