In one scene, if you want you can beat a guy who's tied up, and if you hit the renegade you threaten to cut his balls off.
I'm thinking, I feel it goes too far, simply for the reason because, if it were a woman tied up, and being threatened to have certain parts mutilated, it wouldn't fly, and it would be banned from the game most likely by rights groups.
What do you think about the double standard.
It's wrong either way though, they either make it both or none.
What do you think about the double standard.
I think that there is a non-existent double standard because there is no such case where Shepard interrogates a female.
That's exactly my point, that's why it is a double standard...
The double standard is that they wouldn't allow it
The double standard is that they wouldn't allow it
And my point is that you can't make up a scenario that doesn't exist and then cry "double standard!" Get yourself together.
What? The point I'm making is, they wouldn't do it if it was a woman, if they put it in it would most likely get banned or something, which would be fine, but I'm just politely asking, how does that not make it double standard?
What? The point I'm making is, they wouldn't do it if it was a woman
How do you know when that's never the case? I don't see your problem.
We have some examples of hitting women, although not restrained of course.
My MShep punched Al-Jilani. Not even sorry 
And my FemShep punched Vega in the face and got punched by him in return, too.
Also, this is still just a game. And if you think it's too harsh to hit restrained parties, then Paragon it is. We have options, we can use them.
Okay, sure, but I don't have a problem with stuff like punching the news reporter, because she wasn't restrained, same thing if the news reporter was a man it wouldn't bother me, and James and Shepard sparring was consensual, so there's that, but btw, I'll also add the scene doesn't really bother me, it's just how some people might be fine with one part and not with the other
Also, I don't mind stuff like Shepard punching the Quarian fleet leader, because he was doing something bad, and it was just a punch as in really annoyed about something, same thing with the news reporter, they were both doing something really bad, while the guy tied up, it's more of the fact that he's restrained and if you do all three renegades, it gets quite dark, I agree it's a game, it's just how some people may see it, thanks though, it's just the fact that the person is restrained mainly, just discussing
What? The point I'm making is, they wouldn't do it if it was a woman, if they put it in it would most likely get banned or something, which would be fine, but I'm just politely asking, how does that not make it double standard?
And you can't know that they wouldn't do it since they didn't do it. A double standard is when people think that Miranda is overly sexualized because of her catsuit, but no one mention Jacob's catsuit. Those are two things that exist in the game world that one can point to and say, hey, wait a minute. You have no comparable scenario to the interrogation scene that features a female criminal.
Calling "double standard" doesn't work if there's only one standard.
No you're right, I don't have a comparable scnerio, I'm not comparing the game, I'm comparing how some people might think about, some guy might do the interrogation scene like that and not think much about it, but IF, and I'm saying IF, they did it with a woman, there would be more people against it, that's the double standard, how they wouldn't put it in.
Also, that's a double standard on what's *viewed* as a double standard, as you know, some things are seen more acceptable than others, you can think of loads, doesn't mean it's something that actually happened you have to mention.
But I know what you're saying
Also, I don't mind stuff like Shepard punching the Quarian fleet leader, because he was doing something bad, and it was just a punch as in really annoyed about something, same thing with the news reporter, they were both doing something really bad, while the guy tied up, it's more of the fact that he's restrained and if you do all three renegades, it gets quite dark, I agree it's a game, it's just how some people may see it, thanks though, it's just the fact that the person is restrained mainly, just discussing
I think we could measure it if they showed a female being restrained, but you wouldn't have the option to hit her. Then yeah.
I get what you're trying to say and do here, but like Monica21 said, it's a non-existent double standard because we never got shown a similar scene where we could actually see a difference.
And people complain about stuff in video games or even TV shows a lot of times, when they just need to realise this is not reality. I can only speak for myself of course, but I have no problem if something like hitting a restrained female criminal would have been shown, and it's certainly not my problem if other people are offended by it. There's really sick sh*t happening in the real world and people get offended by scenes in a video game...
Why don't you post that question in the ME2 section?
Its interesting you can punch the reporter, but can't punch Harkin for his poor choice of words towards femshep. Its also interesting you can't punch Wrex for pushing/shoving Shepard before he asks to join you to help stop Saren. But its ok to punch the guy that's tied up.
When I do that mission, this is what I usually do
Okay thanks for understanding, yeah people like me and you wouldn't have a problem with it being a man or a woman, because we don't really see it as worse happening to either gender, it's just the double standard, but at least a lot of us agree that there shouldn't be a problem with either, thanks for the conversation
Also, I don't mind stuff like Shepard punching the Quarian fleet leader,
I would've shot the clown in the foot instead of punching him
Yeah I agree, and sorry for posting it here, more because this is like a character thing, also I agree, I feel it was put in the game for a certain type of person, obviously different people can use it.
And what was it Harkin said by accident? I can't remember? I would look it up but I wouldn't know what to type in.
And what was it Harkin said by accident? I can't remember? I would look it up but I wouldn't know what to type in.
Oh yeah him, I was paragon to him, seemed like he was just drunk and didn't really seem like he was TRYING to be rude, so our Shepard just said "Not right now."
Lol, wouldn't go that far, it would damage his suit :/
Don't know, don't care, but I just wanted to say the "I'll cut your balls off and sell them to a Krogan" line always made me cringe.
Guest_irwig_*
What they did in ME2 was nothing compared to what I've seen on some TV shows.
And people complain about stuff in video games or even TV shows a lot of times, when they just need to realise this is not reality.
Not being reality doesn't mean make the unaccpetable acceptable although it's usually about the type of attitude portrayed rather than what's actual shown taken in isolation. It gets ridiculous when you get in trouble for showing people engaged in normal day-to-day behaviour though (try showing someone smoking on TV now, I've even seen it edited out of older programmes).
As for the OP, sorry, I'm with everyone else on this one. I certainly don't see why Al Jilani not being restrained makes it fine to hit her in comparison with someone who was.
Guest_irwig_*
It gets ridiculous when you get in trouble for showing people engaged in normal day-to-day behaviour though (try showing someone smoking on TV now, I've even seen it edited out of older programmes).
How old are you referring to? A show from 20 years ago? Or one back in the 1960s when everyone smoked?
Retour en haut