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[dch2404]

The requisitions officer keeps doing it and Josephine just referred to a female PC as Sir Trevelyan.

 

Is this normal? If not, is there a fix?

[devSin]

The requisitions officer keeps doing it and Josephine just referred to a female PC as Sir Trevelyan.
 
Is this normal? If not, is there a fix?

It's "ser" (and occasionally "serah").

It's a gender-neutral term in Thedas.

[caradoc2000]

It is not just the PC, other females get that too. For example, Ser Ruth.

[BansheeOwnage]

When in doubt, use subtitles. Playing the other games helps too.

[MarchWaltz]

Janeway was called "Sir" as well...though she stated she preferred 'mam.

[ItFactorScott]

It's just a gender nuetral title for knights in medieval times. It's used in Game of Thrones as well

[Nefla]

It could be a glitch, I was definitely called lady Cadash/ lady Lavellan.

[JeffZero]

Janeway was called "Sir" as well...though she stated she preferred 'mam.

Literally always what I think of when this question is asked!

[Drasanil]

It's just a gender nuetral title for knights in medieval times. It's used in Game of Thrones as well

 

Most definitely not. "Sir" is the masculine with "Dame" being the feminine. Also GoT doesn't have female knights, the closest is Brienne and most people still call her Lady Brienne, anyone who calls her sir is because they're mistaking her for a man.  

[ItFactorScott]

Most definitely not. "Sir" is the masculine with "Dame" being the feminine. Also GoT doesn't have female knights, the closest is Brienne and most people still call her Lady Brienne, anyone who calls her sir is because they're mistaking her for a man.  

 

 

Correct, but "Sir" is not the word we are talking about. "Ser" is, and "Ser" is generally regarded (Though not 100% confirmed, unquestionable fact) as being used in place of "Sir" and "Dame" when a gender neutral title is required.

[Aimi]

It's just a gender nuetral title for knights in medieval times. It's used in Game of Thrones as well

It's got nothing to do with medieval history. "Ser", especially as a gender-neutral title, is an invention of SF/F writers.

[NoForgiveness]

I think when the requisition girl does it its says "sir" not ser. Also I thought Ser or Serah was a Kirkwall specific thing? I don't think I've heard them in this game...

[Beren Von Ostwick]

Cauthrien in DA:O was called "Ser Cauthrien."

 

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Cauthrien

 

[SurelyForth]

Yeah, ser has been around from the beginning. Serah was added in DA2, IIRC. 

 

And you get called a mixture of things- some people use Ser or Serah, some people use "your worship", "my lady", or "lady trevelyan/cadash/adaar/lavellan". 

[Toxicity]

If your PC is being referred to as "Sir Trevelyan", then I'd wager it's likely a mistake in writing. Unless you're hearing "ser" and not using subtitles. NPC's will usually refer to a female PC as lady, ser/serah, 'your worship', etc..., in my experience. Ser being very common among Knights/Soildes and Serah as general. 

[BansheeOwnage]

I think when the requisition girl does it its says "sir" not ser. Also I thought Ser or Serah was a Kirkwall specific thing? I don't think I've heard them in this game...

If it does, it's a typo.

 

If your PC is being referred to as "Sir Trevelyan", then I'd wager it's likely a mistake in writing. Unless you're hearing "ser" and not using subtitles. NPC's will usually refer to a female PC as lady, ser/serah or 'your worship' in my experience. Ser being very common among Knights/Soildes and Serah as general. 

Exactly, the only time I've seen the word "sir" appear was in Descent because the other team wasn't familiar enough with DA lore or simply made a typo. But I think it was the former.

[DragonAgeLegend]

I remember on my very first PC everyone kept referring to him as she, I thought the bug would go away but once I got to Haven it was still happening so I had to start an entirely new game. 

[Alley Cat]

I spent over 200 hours in the game with my female mage, so by no means am I claiming I can remember all that time precisely, but to the best of my knowledge it was always Lady Trevelyan or Inquisitor when Josie referred to her. The Requisitions Officer and many other NPCs, however, used 'ser' - as per subtitles, and as customary for gender-neutral address in other Dragon Age games.

 

For that matter, I'm fairly certain she refers to my male Inquisitors as Lord Trevelyan, not Ser/Sir Trevelyan, most of the time. So maybe it was a weird audio glitch? I tried googling for quotes using "Ser Trevelyan" and spoken by Josephine, but all I got were a ton of fanfics, which apparently seem to have her use Ser instead of Lady or Lord fairly often. Go figure. But now I do wonder if there's a time I've forgotten where she uses that title...

 

Have you paid attention to whether companion discussions/banter or cutscenes refer to your character as he or she? I know it's not often, but there are times where actual pronouns work their way into dialogue, so that'd be a great way to know whether your game is glitched to always refer to your Inquisitor as a male.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

It's "ser" (and occasionally "serah").

It's a gender-neutral term in Thedas.

That just happens to sound like the real word 'sir'.

[Loyal Tevinter]

Hearing the term Serah in Dragon Age instantly reminds me of the dark elves from Elder Scrolls. They use that term as well.

[Illyria]

I spent over 200 hours in the game with my female mage, so by no means am I claiming I can remember all that time precisely, but to the best of my knowledge it was always Lady Trevelyan or Inquisitor when Josie referred to her. The Requisitions Officer and many other NPCs, however, used 'ser' - as per subtitles, and as customary for gender-neutral address in other Dragon Age games.

 

For that matter, I'm fairly certain she refers to my male Inquisitors as Lord Trevelyan, not Ser/Sir Trevelyan, most of the time. So maybe it was a weird audio glitch? I tried googling for quotes using "Ser Trevelyan" and spoken by Josephine, but all I got were a ton of fanfics, which apparently seem to have her use Ser instead of Lady or Lord fairly often. Go figure. But now I do wonder if there's a time I've forgotten where she uses that title...

 

Have you paid attention to whether companion discussions/banter or cutscenes refer to your character as he or she? I know it's not often, but there are times where actual pronouns work their way into dialogue, so that'd be a great way to know whether your game is glitched to always refer to your Inquisitor as a male.

 

Josie called my Trevelyan 'Ser'.  Were you a warrior/rogue?  I had rolled a mage and I just assumed that she got Ser honorific because she wouldn't have a noble title.

 

EDIT:

 

Just saw you said 'mage'. Well, that's that theory out, then.

[c0bra951]

In our socially anal times, we need not only gender neutrality, but also removing from the narrative any hint of gender difference.  "Dame" and "Lady" would be seen as condescending by the hyper-sensitive watchdogs.  So a new word was invented to cover all the bases, one obviously based on "sir".  I think it works fine, though it still feels a bit jarring, because it sounds too much like the masculine term.

[dragondreamer]

I've always been under the impression that "ser" is used for knights, "serrah" is used like "mister" or "miss/mrs/ma'am", and "messere" is like saying "master".  All gender neutral.

[Captain Wiseass]

Janeway was called "Sir" as well...though she stated she preferred 'mam.

She shouldn't have, as it's standard military protocal to use "sir" for any superior officer, regardless of gender.

 

But that's the Federation. In Thedas, "ser" is the catch-all title for a knight, and women have been allowed to be knights since the original Aveline.

 

"Serah" and "messere" are similar honorifics for nobility in the Free Marches. "Serah" is used before the person's name, and "messere" is used the way a waiter in America would use "sir" or "madam".

[Alley Cat]

Josie called my Trevelyan 'Ser'. Were you a warrior/rogue? I had rolled a mage and I just assumed that she got Ser honorific because she wouldn't have a noble title.

EDIT:

Just saw you said 'mage'. Well, that's that theory out, then.

That would have been amazing if it were the case, though!

Maybe Josie using 'ser' is something that happened too early on for me to recall, then. I've started a couple new Inquisitors, one of which is female, so I'm sure I'll spot it soon enough.