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Brigita387

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This is really long, sorry. I write for my bread, so I can't turn it off =P

 

Hi! This is my attempt to reach out the Dragon Age powers-that-be, haha. I would just like to thank them for the absolutely fantastic game and the incredibly heart-wrenching Trespasser DLC. As someone studying for a graduate degree in medieval studies, I appreciate the way you expanded the world, both geographically and culturally (I particularly love how the Chantry and the Elves were fleshed out, and the Anglo-Saxonist/ Norse scholar in me enjoyed the shout out from the Avarr). This set of characters was also my favorite of any BioWare game, I loved each of them in their own way (even Cole, who I was sure I wouldn't like when I saw the promos lol, and Vivienne, who never agreed with anything I did xD). Most of all I loved being the Inquisitor; I thought she was the strongest DA PC by far, with the most compelling motivations, and I loved the way the Inquisition seemed to spring up organically around her. Over the course of the 150+ hours I logged I was able to transform her from a very reluctant Dalish mage who was just in the wrong place at the wrong time to someone who desperately wanted to save the Inquisition and her place in the world in Trespasser. I think it's really hard to gamify character development, so I was very impressed! The story-telling is top-notch.

 

All that being said, I'm really not ready to give her up. I recognize that it will probably take some time for the next installment to come out (the hard working dev team deserves a break!) so I may really be getting ahead of myself, but her conflict with Solas is just so personal. The Trespasser ending establishes Solas as a threat, and I can't imagine my Inquisitor--who romanced him and had her Dalish views of the cosmos subsequently shattered--not being on the front line of trying to stop him. She's a mage, so I can't see her injury slowing her down too much. I know for other Inquisitors the conflict might not be quite as personal, but I have so much invested emotionally in both my Inquisitor as a person and her turbulent relationship with Solas that a new PC might distance me from that. While I felt that the Warden and Hawke's stories closed at the end of their games, Trespasser left me with another cliffhanger. I don't just want to see what Solas does; I want to see what the Inquisitor does about it. And I wouldn't mind seeing my Inquisitor struggle with dwindling resources and weaker infrastructure, with her own injury, with establishing a new team of people Solas "doesn't know." I think it was established somewhat earlier that every DA game gets a new protagonist, but I would like to see my Inquisitor again, for at least one more game.

 

My other suggestions are

1. Keep the huge world, love it! Make it bigger even?

2. Lace Harding as companion

3. Focusing on the characters is great; I'd particularly love to see Cassandra and Varric again

4. I like the high fantasy tone DAI settled on, I think it should stay. 

5. Can we figure out what's up with the Grey Wardens? I've never really liked them, ready to take them down.

6. Two villains? Solas is complicated--a very misguided person with too much power--and potentially redeemable. But perhaps another pretty obviously evil villain? Maybe Solas wakes something else up?

7. I like remaining in the dark about whether the Maker is real or not. Feels more realistic to me. I loved the revelations about the elves, but I think having some divine mysteries is fun too.


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Well put, Brigita 387!

 

I agree that Trespasser seems more like a cliffhanger than a conclusion--and I agree that it's "personal" for most Inquisitors in a way it wasn't in DAO and DA2. So finding an important role (if not the leading role) for the Inquisitor seems called for. At the very least, Bioware, I hope you give us a role for our inquisitor bigger than a parapet cameo.



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All in all I found the whole DAI game plus addons to be very satisfying, and certainly if Iron Bull betrays the Inquisitor in the end it is nothing more than one can expect.  Sten, from DAO, would not want to betray the Warden either, but I have no doubts that he would for the good of the Qun.  I would not actually mind having the Inquisitor as the main hero of the next game, and it appears from the ending of Trespasser that he/she could well be.  If he / she is married having Sera and Cullen around is not a bad thing, not would it be flawed to return some of the inner circle such as Dorian, Cassandra and such.  For sure they will bring Leliana back.  I also expect Charter, Lace Harding and some others noted off screen to arrive.   



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My other suggestions are

1. Keep the huge world, love it! Make it bigger even?

2. Lace Harding as companion

3. Focusing on the characters is great; I'd particularly love to see Cassandra and Varric again

4. I like the high fantasy tone DAI settled on, I think it should stay. 

5. Can we figure out what's up with the Grey Wardens? I've never really liked them, ready to take them down.

6. Two villains? Solas is complicated--a very misguided person with too much power--and potentially redeemable. But perhaps another pretty obviously evil villain? Maybe Solas wakes something else up?

7. I like remaining in the dark about whether the Maker is real or not. Feels more realistic to me. I loved the revelations about the elves, but I think having some divine mysteries is fun too.

 

1. Agreed!

6. Sort of like how Origins had both Loghain and the Archdemon to deal with?



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My other suggestions are

1. Keep the huge world, love it! Make it bigger even?

2. Lace Harding as companion

3. Focusing on the characters is great; I'd particularly love to see Cassandra and Varric again

4. I like the high fantasy tone DAI settled on, I think it should stay. 

5. Can we figure out what's up with the Grey Wardens? I've never really liked them, ready to take them down.

6. Two villains? Solas is complicated--a very misguided person with too much power--and potentially redeemable. But perhaps another pretty obviously evil villain? Maybe Solas wakes something else up?

7. I like remaining in the dark about whether the Maker is real or not. Feels more realistic to me. I loved the revelations about the elves, but I think having some divine mysteries is fun too.

 6.What about the Arishok formerly known as Sten? That way we can have two main villains that were past companions but one is a powerful ancient elf and the other is a powerful leader of a invading army. Split the game up with The Qunari War in the 1st half leading to Sten(arishok) defeat as well as doing whatever needs to be done in tevinter and second elf to the end solas and elf rebels



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Sandal as a quest companion. Based on what he can do in da2 hes probably a key to defeating one of the nain antsgonists in da4(based on trespasser they have similar powers). Im not going to be shocked if we tap into his new powers
I expect harding to be possible archer rogue companion and she is involved in recruiting us. All other companions are new and one will be evil/misunderstood companion

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I wouldn't go for the inquisitor as the main character in the future. Maybe the new protag could be an agent of the reformed inquisition, vetted and recruited alongside a rag tag team of new characters, allowing the PC to undertake the kind of missions we delegated through the war table in DA:I, that would make for more meaty, immersive quests. I also would like the devs to experiment the idea of a fully open world and how they would effectively tell a story in that way, with wherever they choose to base the story being a living, breathing environment.



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My guess from the ending is that the next game will focus on the Northern part of Thedas, with the Tevinter Imperium being the center. I also wouldn't mind seeing some of Nevarra, the Anderfels, and certainly Seheron. I've heard it bandied about, Crisisgrigos, that dual protagonists might be one direction BioWare are thinking of going, with the Inquisitor as one of them and a new recruit like the one you suggest as the other, but I'm not sold on the idea. The previous Dragon Age games have always pretty much finished off their antagonists at the end, but placing Solas as at least one of the antagonists for the next game feels more personal. I think it would take some of the emotional punch out of dealing with him to have an entirely new protagonist. 

 

JadeDragon, I think seeing Sten again would be really interesting and seems like a natural thing to do if the game is heading North! I'm not sure about two ex-companion antagonists though. One thing I liked about Loghain in Origins, the Grey Wardens/ Solas/ the Mage Templar conflict in DAI, and Cerberus in Mass Effect is that they gave you something closer to home and morally stickier to deal with while you also had to deal with some world shattering evil (the Archdemon/Corifyfish/the Reapers). I think if the only antagonists in the next game were Sten and Solas we'd be missing the balance of cosmic evil and more complicated evil which I liked in these games. Maybe the could up the ante and have three antagonists? Sten, Solas, and something cosmic? 

 

One other thought I've had is that I would love to meet the Black Divine! I think it might also be fun to have Dorian as one of your advisers in Tevinter, regardless of who the protagonist ends up being :)



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What are chances that comicbook ties into da4? Any chance we get the hero as a companion?

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What are chances that comicbook ties into da4? Any chance we get the hero as a companion?

Considering DA:I included central characters from two books, I wouldn't be surprised if characters from the magekiller comic. Mavis is already a comic character that is sure to show up in DA4



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My guess from the ending is that the next game will focus on the Northern part of Thedas, with the Tevinter Imperium being the center. I also wouldn't mind seeing some of Nevarra, the Anderfels, and certainly Seheron. I've heard it bandied about, Crisisgrigos, that dual protagonists might be one direction BioWare are thinking of going, with the Inquisitor as one of them and a new recruit like the one you suggest as the other, but I'm not sold on the idea. The previous Dragon Age games have always pretty much finished off their antagonists at the end, but placing Solas as at least one of the antagonists for the next game feels more personal. I think it would take some of the emotional punch out of dealing with him to have an entirely new protagonist. 

 

JadeDragon, I think seeing Sten again would be really interesting and seems like a natural thing to do if the game is heading North! I'm not sure about two ex-companion antagonists though. One thing I liked about Loghain in Origins, the Grey Wardens/ Solas/ the Mage Templar conflict in DAI, and Cerberus in Mass Effect is that they gave you something closer to home and morally stickier to deal with while you also had to deal with some world shattering evil (the Archdemon/Corifyfish/the Reapers). I think if the only antagonists in the next game were Sten and Solas we'd be missing the balance of cosmic evil and more complicated evil which I liked in these games. Maybe the could up the ante and have three antagonists? Sten, Solas, and something cosmic? 

 

One other thought I've had is that I would love to meet the Black Divine! I think it might also be fun to have Dorian as one of your advisers in Tevinter, regardless of who the protagonist ends up being :)

I wanna meet the Black Divine and Archon. There are at least 4 or 5 more darkspawn magisters not to mention we are going to the country that use to worship the old gods so who knows what insight we will get about that. Solas is already on that "cosmic" scale so even though Sten and Solas are both former companions both of there story arcs are vastly different. Both only respect a handful of humans mainly The Warden(Sten) and Inquisitor(Solas) but Sten is not a false god just a military leader while still both a religion and a culture his plan and invasion is not as personal as Solas. Solas is doing whats best for his people even if It kills them in The Qun eyes they are doing whats best for everybody. I expect fighting the last forbidden one can also help fill that void of even though its a side-boss.

 

Personally I would rather have Rivani and Seheron included, not that I don't want to explore Anderfels and Nevarra, trying to balance out to many cultures would give us less of a experience in one of them and not due them justice. At least with Seheron that is a disputed area between the Qun and Vents. It also has buildings similar to Tevinter mixed in with some Qunari Settlements and the natives that live there and its a area that would be new and easily fit the dispute of the war. Rivani is more or less kind only with its on flavor. It would be more Qunari heavy but has its on native culture that can still provide a bridge to its own plots as well as the war plot. Plus the Raiders are there.



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My other suggestions are

1. Keep the huge world, love it! Make it bigger even?

2. Lace Harding as companion

3. Focusing on the characters is great; I'd particularly love to see Cassandra and Varric again

4. I like the high fantasy tone DAI settled on, I think it should stay. 

5. Can we figure out what's up with the Grey Wardens? I've never really liked them, ready to take them down.

6. Two villains? Solas is complicated--a very misguided person with too much power--and potentially redeemable. But perhaps another pretty obviously evil villain? Maybe Solas wakes something else up?

7. I like remaining in the dark about whether the Maker is real or not. Feels more realistic to me. I loved the revelations about the elves, but I think having some divine mysteries is fun too.

 

1. I 100% Agree and assuming we save this world there are other contents in the world. You can hear Leliana and Josephine talking about when one asks "Do you ever wonder what else is out there, beyond Thedas?"

5. Well they have started hinting at a war within the Grey Wardens, but I like a Grey Wardens.

6. I 100% agree there, although I would love to kill Solas. I started off liking him but then when he wanted to end the world to save the ancient elves. No matter how he paints it he is a monster.

 

To be honest I miss the days of only having to worry about the blight and a traitor king on the throne. Now we have to worry about the entire world being destroyed by an insane ancient demon elf.


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