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[Rappeldrache]

I'm not sure why people think it's so far-fetched for the Inquisitor to have a prosthetic arm, lyrium/mage based or even more techy/steam punk in a world like Dragon Age. It's a fantasy setting, there are living constructs (whole-body) like golems (remember Shale?) that function just as smoothly as organic bodies. 

 

I think the people just look for reasons.

A few people are all right with the ending and thats enough for them. A few other people are not so happy with the ending. They ask for a bit more choices (witch shall not chance the world or the story). But: Some people can't accept that other people have a nother view. If they are happy with the ending - everybody does have to be. (Hope it sound not unfriendly, sorry.)

 

I don't understand why we don't support each other: I'm really sad for a lot Solas Romance-friends who are really dissapointed now (NOT ALL! of course). And I made a few thoughts about how it could be possible to make a little ... romantice present to them. To give them a little smile. I don't care about Solas, I never romanced him, I want him to die, but it's not always about me - sometimes we could be a bit more open mindet and try to see the view of other players (and not be so horrible selfish). DAI was a great game - it should be a great game for as many people as possible. And not onyl for "me, me, me, me" ....

 

If there is somebody who ask for something, a little gesture about Solas AFTER the game - you can be sure there will be people writing: "NO NEVER. This is not possible, it's stupid, we don't want it. Bioware dit it well - don't chance NOTHING! And if Bioware is doing this we will go to Canada and put little hamster into Mr. Darrahs underpants!"

Why does it bother you? If it is optional and only for Solas-romancers and if it chances nothing at the world and the history - why not? If it makes so many players happy?

 

Same thing with the lost-arm.

[Teddie Sage]

Bravo!!!

Hehe, thank you but it's far from being the best thing I ever wrote.

[Agior]

Only reason I write in this forum.

I want a cosmetic correction for my archer. don't want to look like an invalid.

[Serza]

Only reason I write in this forum.

I want a cosmetic correction for my archer. don't want to look like an invalid.

 

Are you ashamed of it being instantly obvious that your Inquisitor has survived everything, and is an honorable Combat Veteran?

[Hathur]

Only reason I write in this forum.

I want a cosmetic correction for my archer. don't want to look like an invalid.

 

 

Stars forbid your character be portrayed as anything other than physically whole.. afterall one's worth as a human being (or elf, dwarf, qunari, whatever) is entirely reliant on whether you have your bloody arm still physically attached to you... as opposed, say, to the deeds you've carried out and continue to carry out in life.... clearly nobody with a partially missing arm could ever achieve anything of worth in life and should just kill themselves since they're worthless bags of meat.. /sarcasm

 

If it's any consolation to your archer's precious vanity or pride, he could still fire a bow if he's right handed since he only lost part of his left arm. There are recorded instances of below-elbow amputees being able to brace a bow in a simple modified hook prosthetic while using their dominant hand to draw the bow.. so take comfort in that if you must 

[Rappeldrache]

@Hathur @Serza

 

I for myself want also that my character look a bit like it was before. I also want a "little cosmetic chance".

And this is possible: Especially in a fantasy / magic game where you have Lyrium golems and stuff like this running around.

 

I for example I'm asking just for a little "Wartable mission" where you can decide AFTER Trespasser what you want to do with your lost arm: Keep it like it is, make a prothetics (Hello, Dagna!) or let the mages make it grown back somehow (but only 50 % fit anymore ). Thats all - just a little cosmetic choice would solve ALL this discussions. And this is (a bit) like in reallife - even there we have choices if we would lose our forearm. Even "re-grown" is possible with arms and hands of death person. Only difference is: In Thedas you would take magic and not a death-man-arm. Thats all. So I don't see the problem, sorry.

 

My english is not really good. I don't know if I made clear what I wanted to say. Hope I don't sound unpoilte.

[d1ta]

Automail!


Yeah my elven mage will not look very much 'ladylike' with that on her arm, but she'll embrace her new nickname as.. FullMetal Rift Mage

[tokyo1234]

 

Stars forbid your character be portrayed as anything other than physically whole.. afterall one's worth as a human being (or elf, dwarf, qunari, whatever) is entirely reliant on whether you have your bloody arm still physically attached to you... as opposed, say, to the deeds you've carried out and continue to carry out in life.... clearly nobody with a partially missing arm could ever achieve anything of worth in life and should just kill themselves since they're worthless bags of meat.. /sarcasm

 

If it's any consolation to your archer's precious vanity or pride, he could still fire a bow if he's right handed since he only lost part of his left arm. There are recorded instances of below-elbow amputees being able to brace a bow in a simple modified hook prosthetic while using their dominant hand to draw the bow.. so take comfort in that if you must 

Wow, why are you being so passive aggressive? Not everyone wants their character (emphasis on character) to be a real-life veteran. We the players created characters that we tailored to our looks, needs, etc.. So if someone doesn't want their character to be missing a limb (without a replacement) then why are they being painted as inconsiderate? I personally would love if the inquisitor received a replacement arm, just so they look like they did when I created them. It's a fantasy RPG game, and If I wanted a scarred up battlemage then I would have created that or played a game centered around a disability (Call of duty advanced warfare and Metal gear solid phantom pain) and with little to no control over the outcomes. 

[tokyo1234]

Are you ashamed of it being instantly obvious that your Inquisitor has survived everything, and is an honorable Combat Veteran?

I don't think anybody is ashamed, it's just rather redundant to live in a magical fantasy world full of creatures, magic and advanced technology and still have a stump for an arm! Lol like literally the inquisitor is the only person who has survived war and still managed to end up losing a limb, basically due to too much power lol! Cassandra out of all people should have zero limbs left, along with Blackwall, Cole, and pretty much everyone else. But Bioware added the whole one arm thing for shock factor, not because it's relevant in a world full of magic  I just started my second playthrough and just watched like three guards get blown up randomly due a comet from the rift, hmm none of them lost any limbs. I wonder why?

[9TailsFox]

I think the people just look for reasons.

A few people are all right with the ending and thats enough for them. A few other people are not so happy with the ending. They ask for a bit more choices (witch shall not chance the world or the story). But: Some people can't accept that other people have a nother view. If they are happy with the ending - everybody does have to be. (Hope it sound not unfriendly, sorry.)

 

I don't understand why we don't support each other: I'm really sad for a lot Solas Romance-friends who are really dissapointed now (NOT ALL! of course). And I made a few thoughts about how it could be possible to make a little ... romantice present to them. To give them a little smile. I don't care about Solas, I never romanced him, I want him to die, but it's not always about me - sometimes we could be a bit more open mindet and try to see the view of other players (and not be so horrible selfish). DAI was a great game - it should be a great game for as many people as possible. And not onyl for "me, me, me, me" ....

 

If there is somebody who ask for something, a little gesture about Solas AFTER the game - you can be sure there will be people writing: "NO NEVER. This is not possible, it's stupid, we don't want it. Bioware dit it well - don't chance NOTHING! And if Bioware is doing this we will go to Canada and put little hamster into Mr. Darrahs underpants!"

Why does it bother you? If it is optional and only for Solas-romancers and if it chances nothing at the world and the history - why not? If it makes so many players happy?

 

Same thing with the lost-arm.

Why we should have some compassion. People cry just because character at THE END lost limb ending is fine, it's not like it ME3 full of plot holes and don't make sense. Ending is good, and what you expect you walking, with nuclear reactor who can affect fabric of reality, in your arm. And it was instantly after Solas turn arm to stone Inquisitor have no time to do something about it. But later in red jenny he make crossbow.

 

And Solas is great and his romance is best in Inquisition why something must be changed. Then I say Josephine romance is worst and boring everyone up in arms to defend how great it is.

[MrObnoxiousUK]

It's crazy, right!

 

But that's how I think. I'd rather die than lose an arm.

 

It's... weird. But that bit is no news for me. It's who I am.

 

 

Edit: And you know what, Lyn? I need to play again.

 

I need that to get over it. And I need to get over it, because it's still a beautiful ending for a beautiful story.

I bet you if you lost your arm in an accident tomorrow you would conveniently forget all about your bluster you just said above!

[tokyo1234]

Why we should have some compassion. People cry just because character at THE END lost limb ending is fine, it's not like it ME3 full of plot holes and don't make sense. Ending is good, and what you expect you walking, with nuclear reactor who can affect fabric of reality, in your arm. And it was instantly after Solas turn arm to stone Inquisitor have no time to do something about it. But later in red jenny he make crossbow.

 

And Solas is great and his romance is best in Inquisition why something must be changed. Then I say Josephine romance is worst and boring everyone up in arms to defend how great it is.

I'm sorry, but I literally have no idea what you're talking about?

[Homeboundcrib]

A fade arm so cool for a Mage makes fade punch so more personal haha

[dixophilia]

Firstly, to the people insisting prosthetics can't be aesthetically pleasing:

Spoiler

Alexander McQueen thinks otherwise

 

These next ones aren't McQueen, but my point still stands.

 

And pretty much this whole site right [here]

 

My Inquisitor is a qunari mage. I would imagine she'd have two (maybe three) prosthetic limbs for different occasions. Perhaps one of hollowed dragon bone carved with designs for her magic to shine through, mostly just used casually. Then she'd probably work closely with Dagna (for magical theory) and Bianca (to help put it all into practice) to create another one for combat purposes that would serve to focus and enhance her magic in much the same way a staff would.

 

My archer Lavellan would just want something functional enough to allow her to use her bow. She wouldn't like a crossbrow, to be quite honest. Enchantments or lyrium would probably do the trick well enough.

[Blackout62]

My archer Lavellan would just want something functional enough to allow her to use her bow. She wouldn't like a crossbrow, to be quite honest. Enchantments or lyrium would probably do the trick well enough.

 

I was bad and armchair engineered a rudimentary archery prosthesis. Archery prosthetics are a thing for either arm but even without current prosthetic technology it seems like it'd be pretty easy mechanically for the Inquisitor to use a bow. Inqu-ey loses her left arm and holds the bow with that arm. Proper archery form should have that arm completely straight which can be done by a simple prosthesis and possibly a stiff brace. At tension the bow should remain still no matter how may fingers are on it so the prosthetic just needs to apply hand-like resistance to the bow while its pulled so a concave end with a belt to hold the bow while it's loose would work. See, easy, don't even need fingers.

 

But right, my head-canon says Quissy goes to Navarro and has a dead person's arm grafted to them and a spirit put in it by a Mortalitassi for full mobility. Strangelove style uncontrolled arm movements and self-strangulation will hopefully be kept to a minimum.

 

That or:

 

A. Nine years later the Inquisitor comes out of a coma, gets a fancy magic arm from Dagna, and decides to rebuild their private army for revenge.

 

B. Arl Kevin Spacey pays for a new arm for the Inquisitor provided they work for his morally dubious band of mercenaries.

 

C. While only needing a new arm, the Inquisitor's boss, the Chevalier Davide Sarif, orders new artificial legs, right arm, organs, and eyes for the Inquisitor without their knowledge. That's right, you all forgot about Deus Ex: Human Revolution, forgot about the game that made losing appendages cool in the first place.

[Serza]

I bet you if you lost your arm in an accident tomorrow you would conveniently forget all about your bluster you just said above!

 

'Tis not impossible, yes...

[Illegitimus]

I'm not sure why people think it's so far-fetched for the Inquisitor to have a prosthetic arm, lyrium/mage based or even more techy/steam punk in a world like Dragon Age. It's a fantasy setting, there are living constructs (whole-body) like golems (remember Shale?) that function just as smoothly as organic bodies. 

 

Yes but that's because doing that is a horrific abomination.  Anything that is a horrific abomination is pretty easy to do in Thedas.  Simply helpful things can only happen with some kind of nasty side effect that endangers your sanity or slowly kills you.  

[Avejajed]

http://sports.yahoo....-001529154.html

 

JS.

[Korva]

Yes but that's because doing that is a horrific abomination.  Anything that is a horrific abomination is pretty easy to do in Thedas.  Simply helpful things can only happen with some kind of nasty side effect that endangers your sanity or slowly kills you.  

 

The snark is strong with this one.

 

But, yes, I am inclined to agree that the trope of "horrific abominations" being commonplace and "simple helpful things" being rare, overlooked entirely or carrying some kind of nasty price -- which is hardly limited to Thedas -- does get tiresome.

[Wulfram]

I think you could probably get some specialised prosthetics that can at least do something, but you wouldn't get something that's truly multi-function. Either you've got the cosmetic gloved hand, or you've got the hook attachment or the crossbow or the shield or whatever.

It seemed like they amputated above the elbow, which I'd think would limit the practical usefulness of a prosthetic quite a bit since you're limited to just shoulder movement.

Though I'd guess my Inquisitor will just get by one handed. I'm sure she can still hit people with swords quite effectively with the right if necessary, but she's moving off the front lines.

[QueenCrow]

I didn't get the line "my adventuring days are over" - or something to that effect - but when I saw that gem on my husband's playthrough, I was immediately fighting that sentiment in my head.  It may be a good way to bring closure to a game that is finished.  That, I understand.  But an Inquisitor, any of our Inquisitors, just sitting down and resting a stump against an armchair seems contrary to anything our Inquisitors have done in the past.

 

"Oh, I was somehow marked with some kind of magic that is killing me.  My adventuring days are over."

 

"Oh, I got my butt massively kicked at Haven, a lot of my people died and we have nowhere to go.  It's over."

 

So whether it happens in the next game or not, inside my head, my Inquisitor is going to do what she has always done - pick herself up, find a way to overcome a problem(s), and keep going.  And inside my head, it's with an enchanted prosthetic of dwarven design.  I'll have a green staff crystal at the center of the palm, elaborate adornments and fine-toothed gears for the finger movements - Alexander McQueen style. (Thanks, dixophilia )

 

Those of you who have different feelings on the subject are, of course, entitled to your own valid feelings.

[ArianaGBSA]

1 - Be a very good friend of Sera, but don't flirt with her, don't romance her either
2 - In the prologue she is shown to be in love with Dagna
3 - Ask your very close lesbian couple friends to build the most destructive mass destruction weapon to fit you as a prosthethic arm
4 - Enjoy

PS.: When you ask at first Sera will think it is about a menage if you are a girl, and she will probably insist you got shy and changed the subject, but it will work anyway. If you are a guy she will think the same and probably kill you so do it at your own risk.

[KaiserShep]

Yes but that's because doing that is a horrific abomination.  Anything that is a horrific abomination is pretty easy to do in Thedas.  Simply helpful things can only happen with some kind of nasty side effect that endangers your sanity or slowly kills you.

Do enchanted items have any effect on the user? I don't recall anything but raw lyrium being problematic.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think you could probably get some specialised prosthetics that can at least do something, but you wouldn't get something that's truly multi-function. Either you've got the cosmetic gloved hand, or you've got the hook attachment or the crossbow or the shield or whatever.

It seemed like they amputated above the elbow, which I'd think would limit the practical usefulness of a prosthetic quite a bit since you're limited to just shoulder movement.

Though I'd guess my Inquisitor will just get by one handed. I'm sure she can still hit people with swords quite effectively with the right if necessary, but she's moving off the front lines.

Actually you have a little bit of your forearm still. You can see that when you look at some of the epilogue slides. You see the amputated arm in the shirt, but with it going a little bit below the bend of your elbow.

[tokyo1234]

Firstly, to the people insisting prosthetics can't be aesthetically pleasing:

Spoiler

Alexander McQueen thinks otherwise

 

These next ones aren't McQueen, but my point still stands.

 

And pretty much this whole site right [here]

 

My Inquisitor is a qunari mage. I would imagine she'd have two (maybe three) prosthetic limbs for different occasions. Perhaps one of hollowed dragon bone carved with designs for her magic to shine through, mostly just used casually. Then she'd probably work closely with Dagna (for magical theory) and Bianca (to help put it all into practice) to create another one for combat purposes that would serve to focus and enhance her magic in much the same way a staff would.

 

My archer Lavellan would just want something functional enough to allow her to use her bow. She wouldn't like a crossbrow, to be quite honest. Enchantments or lyrium would probably do the trick well enough.

Omfg if I got stuck with a wooden replacement in real life or in Dragon Age I would be pissed lol. The second black prosthetic is definitely giving me some Deus Ex vibes, which I like. The last one would fit the Dragon age setting (the fingers don't match my character's skin tone though lol) but would look strange and out of place in real life. But the rest are pretty terrible (kind of remind me of American Horror story)  

I'm pretty sure the dwarves can build a much better (probably steam-punk looking) prosthetic. Although Vivienne can probably design an everyday but still beautiful and stylish prosthetic and then give the designs to Dagna so she can build it. But If my Inquisitor must have a prosthetic then she can at least have one that is deadly but still feminine and stylish.