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Starting Awakening. Importing? Continuity? DA2? Etc.


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thewatcheruatu

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I'm completely confused about something. As I understand it, you can import a save from Awakening when you load up a new career in Dragon Age 2, but when I started my Awakening game, I don't think I had an option to import the decisions I made from Dragon Age: Origins--just my Warden. But since my Warden made the ultimate sacrifice, it wouldn't have made any sense.

 

So...how does Awakening know what your decisions were? Would there be any point in importing an Awakening save in DA2 in my case? Would it be aware of my decisions from Origins, or would it just use the "canon" world state?



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Mike3207

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You won't get the canon world state if you import, just if you start with a nonimport Warden.

 

Most of your decisions import, I'm not sure about your choices with Morrigan though.



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You won't get the canon world state if you import, just if you start with a nonimport Warden.

 

Most of your decisions import, I'm not sure about your choices with Morrigan though.

 

Well, I guess that's my confusion. Because my Warden is dead. So I basically can't import my decisions from Origins into Awakening?



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The decisions import with your Warden-you don't need to import them separately. I think an imported Warden retcons as alive, you're only considered dead if you start with an Orlesian Warden.

 

In other words, the game assumes an imported Warden did the Ritual-I think. I can't ever recall sacrificing my Warden and then importing into Awakening that way.



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That's really weird. So it sounds like the only way to have a solid line of continuity from Origins through Awakening to Dragon Age II is to import your dead Warden and just retcon her death. 

 

Well, I'll probably do it, even though I was enjoying my Arcane Warrior Orlesian Warden. Kind of just wasted an hour or so of my time, though. Probably should have researched this first.



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That's really weird. So it sounds like the only way to have a solid line of continuity from Origins through Awakening to Dragon Age II is to import your dead Warden and just retcon her death. 

 

pretty much, like it will determine who rules and some other minor decisions with quests and stuff.  But playing Awakening with the "deceased warden" immediately retcons to "He/She did the ritual and survived".  Starting fresh with an Orlesian warden just gets you default world state.



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pretty much, like it will determine who rules and some other minor decisions with quests and stuff.  But playing Awakening with the "deceased warden" immediately retcons to "He/She did the ritual and survived".  Starting fresh with an Orlesian warden just gets you default world state.

 

Well, it wouldn't have been my Warden that did the ritual--it would be Alistair. When I get to Witch Hunt, is this going to come up?



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How odd. I never even thought of importing a dead warden into Awakening but I'd just assumed you'd get the choices relating to other characters carry over and the Orlesian warden as PC. Retconning the warden back from the dead is a funny way to go about it.



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How odd. I never even thought of importing a dead warden into Awakening but I'd just assumed you'd get the choices relating to other characters carry over and the Orlesian warden as PC. Retconning the warden back from the dead is a funny way to go about it.

 

The funny thing is that when you Google this, most of the results are from 5 years ago or so, when I guess a lot of people were assuming your Warden would end up being a character or even protagonist in the Dragon Age sequels. So players who made the Ultimate Sacrifice just got constantly berated by forum posters who were all, "You killed your warden. Now pay the price of none of your decisions mattering, since obviously, the US ending is essentially just a failure condition, like killing Shepard at the end of Mass Effect 2."

 

Five years later, that now seems absurd, but it does make me wonder if BioWare, itself, felt the same way at the time Awakening released. Hedging their bets in case they needed to use the Hero of Ferelden again in the sequel.

 

Honestly, it's kind of embarrassing in retrospect the way Dragon Age 2 made you basically disavow your chosen ending if you wanted all of your major decisions from the main Origins campaign and Awakening to carry over.



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Somewhat related to this, it bugs me that if you do import your Hero of Ferelden Warden, even if you were best buddies with Oghren, he's back to being completely neutral to you. Between that and the fact that he's an even worse drunken loser than he used to be (in Origins, he at least had some redeeming qualities), he almost seems like a different character.

 

Edit: And I just read that it's nearly impossible to trigger his personal quest in Awakenings unless you do nearly everything right by him, so I probably won't be seeing that, as I've already taken a few negatives and I think I'm sitting at -5 currently. Oh well. 



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To save a lot of build I import my warden from DA:O since I usually do Morrigan's ritual and my warden lives after making the fatal blow.

 

What puzzles me how did Alistair find and then con my warden into going to the keep? After all my male or female warden sets out with Leliana to travel the world. Of course my female warden not very happy about it and mentions that fact when Alistair talks to her at the keep. After the blight my warden wants nothing to do with the Grays or King Alistair or the Queen-this is especially true for my female warden..