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[AresKeith]

Killed, yes. But killing is different than murder. For example self-defense or defense of others is not murder.

 

So killing bandits, Red Templars/ Venatori counts as murder?

[TeffexPope]

And as a result she is more horrible of a person for it. Murder is murder.

Murder isn't 'killing dudes who want to destroy the world', sorry. Murder is 'using the divine as a sacrifice for a twisted elven-magic-powered ritual'.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

So killing bandits, Red Templars/ Venatori counts as murder?

Bioware calls her such, so unless there is evidence to combat it since they have noted the difference before then she has committed murder. 

 

How about you actually contribute to the topic than press this. I'm done. Sorry OP. 

[vertigomez]

y'all wearin' me out

Spoiler

[Hanako Ikezawa]

y'all wearin' me out

Don't blame me. I'm ending it and have actually contributed to the topic. 

[Giantdeathrobot]

Bioware calls her such, so unless there is evidence to combat it since they have noted the difference before then she has committed murder. 

 

How about you actually contribute to the topic than press this. I'm done. Sorry OP. 

 

I'm sorry to have to ask this question, but you do know what a figure of speech is, right?

[TeaLulu]

Because Bioware hates us.

[vertigomez]

Don't blame me. I'm ending it and have actually contributed to the topic.

Eh, I'm being facetious.

Anyway, the point of flirting with Scout Harding is that you get to flirt with Scout Harding. Also to test the waters for a potential dwarf romance in later games, as dave said.

[Knight of Dane]

Bioware has always had bits of extra flirting in their games. DA too.

 

It's toned down a bit mind you. The Warden could straight up off screen bed random chicks and bicks like Gheyna, Bella and Cammen. As far as I remember Hawke can only really entertain the companions and the brothel people, besides a little flirt here and there, a elf girl in Merrlls clan for example. In DA:I I think it is only Vivienne and Harding that are non-romance flirts.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Bioware has always had bits of extra flirting in their games. DA too.

 

It's toned down a bit mind you. The Warden could straight up off screen bed random chicks and bicks like Gheyna, Bella and Cammen. As far as I remember Hawke can only really entertain the companions and the brothel people, besides a little flirt here and there, a elf girl in Merrlls clan for example. In DA:I I think it is only Vivienne and Harding that are non-romance flirts.

There is also that one Orlesian noble you can seduce and sleep with in Josephine's personal quest. 

[Knight of Dane]

Ah yes. Is that not only Qunari Inkys that can do that?

[Avejajed]

Blue balls.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Ah yes. Is that not only Qunari Inkys that can do that?

No, you can seduce and sleep with her regardless of race or gender. 

[Knight of Dane]

No, you can seduce and sleep with her regardless of race or gender. 

 

Huh, I must do something wrong then, I don't always have that option.

[Nethalf]

I think the purpose of being able to flirt with Harding was for the devs to 'test out' dwarf romance without having to sink full romance resources into it. 

 

Step 1:  Create a 'cute' female dwarf (Long reddish hair?  Check.  Freckles?  Check.  Popular voice actor?  Check.  "Badass" persona?  Check.)

So that's what has stopped me from further flirting with Harding. Good to know.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Huh, I must do something wrong then, I don't always have that option.

Are you in a romance by the time you do the mission? If so the option disappears. 

[pdusen]

I had guessed that maybe if you kept flirting with Harding in the Vanilla, and didn't date anyone else, you might be able to start something with her in future DLC. But that never happened. So what's the deal with that?

 

I don't understand the question. People flirt pointlessly in real life all of the time. It's just one of the many ways that people interact. Why does flirting with her have to lead anywhere?

[Knight of Dane]

Are you in a romance by the time you do the mission? If so the option disappears. 

That must be it. The only times I could do it was with my Qunari male and females who romanced Josephine herself and Blackwall, so I suppose I was not locked in then yet.

[Knight of Dane]

I don't understand the question. People flirt pointlessly in real life all of the time. It's just one of the many ways that people interact. Why does flirting with her have to lead anywhere?

 

It doesn't, that is why OP said "I had guessed" and not "I knew" or "it should"

[Bhryaen]

I don't know. Allers doesn't murder people(Bioware refers to Harding as "an adorable ball of murder") so Allers is less horrible than Harding.

From that interpretation of Bioware's phrasing, your Inquisitor is a murderer as well. So is your Inquisitor horrible also? And Hawke? And your Warden? I believe that to appreciate Bioware's phrasing you'd need, you know, a sense of humor. They're not saying that Harding needs to be the next person to be brought up on trial for crimes against humanoidity. They're saying she's badass... and the phrasing makes me smile.

 

As to "flirting doesn't have to go anywhere," the point is that they didn't make it just flirting. There was an offer of a drink and then the relationship progression hits an unclarified brick wall. With other characters- even non-controllable characters- new events occurred. This is what the OP was wondering about. There's a link above that vertigomez mentions that does sorta clarify whether the drink occurred, however:

 

Spoiler

Relevant.

 

It still begs the question of why it wasn't developed further, but, well, whatever. Hopefully there will be more to it with a dwarf romance in DA4. Lace needs lovins too!

 

On that note, I doubt they're just looking at user interaction stats alone for whether to add a DA4 dwarf romance. If it were so cut-and-dry, DAI would've been another DA2 in terms of a non-human presence.

[Sabariel]

It was so BW could collect your tears. I know they collected some from me when I found out there was no Harding romance.

[robertthebard]

It doesn't, that is why OP said "I had guessed" and not "I knew" or "it should"

I was right with you, until "So what's up with that".

At any rate, I flirt all the time, and I'm not looking to get laid. Hell, my mom and I get together once a month for lunch, and we were a bit early for the restaurant to be open, so we popped over to a store in the mall nearby, and I got drawn into a flirting match with one of the employees over a box of Red Lobster biscuit mix, all because I wasn't planning to share. Flirting does not have to mean "looking for sex".

[Han Shot First]

I think the purpose of being able to flirt with Harding was for the devs to 'test out' dwarf romance without having to sink full romance resources into it. 

 

Step 1:  Create a 'cute' female dwarf (Long reddish hair?  Check.  Freckles?  Check.  Popular voice actor?  Check.  "Badass" persona?  Check.)

Step 2:  Create flirt options and track how often they are selected/discussed in fandom

Step 3:  Evaluate that data

Step 4:  Determine that she was a popular option and include her or a comparable character as a full romance in DA4.

 

What he said.

 

Also 5 Sovereigns on Harding being both a companion and dwarfmance in DA4.

[atum]

It's clearly a bug.