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#51
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I'm tired of people crapping on me4 before we even know anything about it. I say let's get a head start and start crapping on me5 or even me6.

 

I'd be hyped if DAI didn't happen, but it did and now I'm not letting myself to get carried away. It's better to be surprised positively than negatively after all.



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The concept of "giving up on Bioware" (or any other developper) genuinely mystifies me, because it hints at a former complete confidence in Bioware. Can't you just evalute the purchase of the game based on its merits ? Are you forced to buy everything a company puts on the market ?

 

I'm certainly a big NFS fan, but I'm skipping the next one, because I buy games that interests me, not "because it's NFS" or "because it's Ghost studios".


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biower single player is dead to me. dai was the last shot.

 

i'll buy it for the multiplayer. and im having second thoughts considering they dropped support for dai sp/mp on the 360 midway.



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I could see not preordering future Bioware games if a person finds Bioware's last few games disappointing, but it would be silly to say, "I'm never buying another Bioware game." A disappointing game could always be followed by awesome one, or vice versa. 

 

It would be smarter just to be more cautious about your purchases, wait for reviews, and/or watch some Lets Plays if you're worried a game won't meet expectations. 

What? Just because ME3's ending was a silly pretentious trainwreck, that doesn't mean I'm skipping ME:A because of that. I'm skipping it because they closed the off-topic forums. BioWare, you complete monsters. </3


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I'm skipping ME:A because they closed the off-topic forums, not because ME3's ending was a silly pretentious trainwreck. Those monsters.


I might forgive them if they incorporate Cross Ange elements tho.

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I could see not preordering future Bioware games if a person finds Bioware's last few games disappointing, but it would be silly to say, "I'm never buying another Bioware game." A disappointing game could always be followed by awesome one, or vice versa. 

 

It would be smarter just to be more cautious about your purchases, wait for reviews, and/or watch some Lets Plays if you're worried a game won't meet expectations. 

 

Something like this... Also bear in mind, I still overall rate me3 as a positive experience. I think it did alot of things right as well. :)

 

That's just my oppinion tho, no reason to go spread it around. 



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I might forgive them if they incorporate Cross Ange elements tho.

If they did that, well... I guess I'd feel obligated to act like I'm still mad at them, even if I'm not. Because they done goofed. I'd play it and enjoy it, but then post an angry review on metacritic.


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The bar has been set so low I don't even think ME:A is capable of disappointing me.



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I think a lot of fans still buy games from Bioware because at this point we've grown to accept they're not in their prime anymore. They peaked in the late 2000s, and it's been in decline ever since. I and many others thought they were gonna knock DA:I outta the park. I mean they had 3.5 years to develop the game, so there was no excuse this time, whereas you could excuse DA2 and SOME of ME3's shortcomings on limited time for development. But then DA:I came out, and the realization that Bioware, no matter how much time given, just doesn't have the magic anymore had set in.

Tempered Expectations. That's pretty much the general attitude. At this point I can only expect decent - good RPGs from Bioware.
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Dutch why u even here? your like some sick junkie who cant get his fix, you know how disgusting, how craven, how sweaty an greasy them folks are, "shudders"

 

BioWares worst games sure as hell still beat most of the contenders on the field, thats why im here still an will continue to do so, whats your excuse?


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Dutch why u even here? your like some sick junkie who cant get his fix, you know how disgusting, how craven, how sweaty an greasy them folks are, "shudders"
 
BioWares worst games sure as hell still beat most of the contenders on the field, thats why im here still an will continue to do so, whats your excuse?


Bloodborne and Witcher 3 both destroy DA:I imho. Divinty OS was also better, and I'm more hyped for Divinity 2 than ME:A. Hell we barely know anything about Cyberpunk 2077, and I'd put my money down on it being the better game of the two.

 

Again though, just my opinion.



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BioWares worst games sure as hell still beat most of the contenders on the field, thats why im here still an will continue to do so, whats your excuse?

IKR, Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood was excellent tbh.



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will you give up on Bioware? I will since DAI was a disappointment for me.

 

Already have and it is because of statements the lead writer has already made on twitter saying that romances and alternative lifestyle companion characters are the most important thing in the game. Not plot arc after the disastrous third act in ME 3, not effectual villains (something Gaider cannot do), not making sure the game was not boring fetch quests, but instead catering to a small demographic who bullies the majority on these forums who do not even bother to post here anymore. 

 

If Bioware wants to live in some delusion where the same SMALL number of people that pollute the Bioware forums 24/7, while being hostile and toxic to anyone that posts here, which is a VAST minority of the people who played the ME series, represents what potential buyers want?

 

Have fun with that Bioware. ME Andromeda will be the last big budget Bioware game. I will bet money on it. EA is gonna shut this company down and just make alternative lifestyle dating games with some farmville elements, where they could make A LOT more money with lower dev costs and DLC with freaky humanoids to have sex with. 

 

Sorry but when the selling point for DA:I was a characters sexuality, and promoting the sex scenes in every gaming outlet, and they will probably make the same mistake with this game? Enjoy pitiful sales.

 

Dear crazy high up people at Bioware. People can google porn. Look at the sales of Witcher 3 and MGS 5 and realize how badly you screwed up catering to some loonies. Or don't. I do not care anymore. I can return the next failed game within 24 hours on Origin, which is what I did with DA:I. The surprise will be if you actually make a competent RPG again. A bad game? I expect. Too stupid to focus on everything that would make a game a great RPG and instead focus on romance? Expect that to, since the lead already said it...

 

The only reason I will even attempt to play your new game when I bought CE editions of everything right up until after SWTOR, is because of the Origin money back guarantee. I will get a David Gaider like lecture on social issue crap an hour into the game and then return it. Heaven forbid I get a fun game to play and a escape from all this controversy crap all over my facebook page.

 

Oh and KOTOR had a lesbian/bi character. It just wasn't the FOCUS of the game and neither was romance. THAT was the way to do it Bioware. But whatever, enjoy listening to these small number of bullies and sycophants you have left on the forum and wonder why their unified front does not = sales and have fun with EA shutting you down.


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No. Flaws and all I've yet to truly call any BioWare title 'bad'. Maybe a case of one step forward, one step back depending on where they decide to go with the game but each one has been playable (and enjoyable) for me. Except probably ME2, that one has not aged well for me and in comparison to my favorite (ME1) and update (ME3), it just comes off as a largely ignored middle child of the trilogy for me. But before ME3 I managed multiple runs and enjoyed it.

Off topic insights aside I'm pretty much used to BioWare going a step back as they take a step forward. I play for the narratives more so than the gameplay anyways.

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Right. See you in a year or so.
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Already have and it is because of statements the lead writer has already made on twitter saying that romances and alternative lifestyle companion characters are the most important thing in the game. Not plot arc after the disastrous third act in ME 3, not effectual villains (something Gaider cannot do), not making sure the game was not boring fetch quests, but instead catering to a small demographic who bullies the majority on these forums who do not even bother to post here anymore.

If Bioware wants to live in some delusion where the same SMALL number of people that pollute the Bioware forums 24/7, while being hostile and toxic to anyone that posts here, which is a VAST minority of the people who played the ME series, represents what potential buyers want?

Have fun with that Bioware. ME Andromeda will be the last big budget Bioware game. I will bet money on it. EA is gonna shut this company down and just make alternative lifestyle dating games with some farmville elements, where they could make A LOT more money with lower dev costs and DLC with freaky humanoids to have sex with.

Sorry but when the selling point for DA:I was a characters sexuality, and promoting the sex scenes in every gaming outlet, and they will probably make the same mistake with this game? Enjoy pitiful sales.

Dear crazy high up people at Bioware. People can google porn. Look at the sales of Witcher 3 and MGS 5 and realize how badly you screwed up catering to some loonies. Or don't. I do not care anymore. I can return the next failed game within 24 hours on Origin, which is what I did with DA:I. The surprise will be if you actually make a competent RPG again. A bad game? I expect. Too stupid to focus on everything that would make a game a great RPG and instead focus on romance? Expect that to, since the lead already said it...

The only reason I will even attempt to play your new game when I bought CE editions of everything right up until after SWTOR, is because of the Origin money back guarantee. I will get a David Gaider like lecture on social issue crap an hour into the game and then return it. Heaven forbid I get a fun game to play and a escape from all this controversy crap all over my facebook page.

Oh and KOTOR had a lesbian/bi character. It just wasn't the FOCUS of the game and neither was romance. THAT was the way to do it Bioware. But whatever, enjoy listening to these small number of bullies and sycophants you have left on the forum and wonder why their unified front does not = sales and have fun with EA shutting you down.

Ugh if the lead writer wants to focus more primarily on crappy romances and social justing then the game will be crap.

I agree the devs cater to those who kiss ass here and have some sick obsession with dating pixels. Just look at the story/character subforum in DAI section.

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Ugh if the lead writer wants to focus more primarily on crappy romances and social justing then the game will be crap.

I agree the devs cater to those who kiss ass here and have some sick obsession with dating pixels. Just look at the story/character subforum in DAI section.

 

This derision just becomes more and more ironic, considering how many romance/sex related topics you've started. 


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As long as any new Bioware game falls somewhere between "meh that was alright I guess..kinda" to "OMG *mad hand flapping* OMG that was the best... game.. ever"  then it is worth the money and time for me.



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Will I shoot people?

Will i shoot people with blue space magic?

 

If yes to even one of those I'll be happy. 


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I rather enjoyed DAI. Wasn't perfect, but none of Bioware's games are perfect. 

 

But I'm not sold on MEA yet. We don't know a whole lot about it. It has potential, and I'm willing to give it a fair shake until we know more, but there are certain choices they can make that will be a deal breaker for me in regards to this game, specifically.

 

However, that wouldn't mean I'm done with Bioware as a whole. I'm still interested in seeing where they go with Dragon Age from here, and hopeful that they might start with some new properties in the future.



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Frankly, there are a grand total of two Bioware games that haven't disappointed me in some way (BG becuase I knew nothing about it other than a friend saying it was good, and BG2 becuase it was everything I wanted as a sequel to the aforementioned and more). And yet I'm still here buying their games. Why? Beacuse despite never quite being as good as I hope (i.e. as good as BG2), they're still thoroughly enjoyable and I've more than got my moneys' worth out of them. So if ME:A is disappointing enough to actually make me not want to play it, it'll be a first for BW, and I'm hardly going to write of a company after a single failure, am I?


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Maybe.

The ending of ME3 didn't bother me nearly as much as it did others, I would be more interested in how they go about the game play. It seems like everytime a company tries to reinvent the wheel, we end up with a box that just doesn't work.

They basically got the game play mostly right for ME2 and 3, with a little bit of honing and listening to the "genuine" concerns of the players. (don't make it a fetchfest, or fill it with useless gameplay/cutscenes.., or worse, blood and gore like they did in DA2.., what a disaster) I think they could make a great game. We can only hope, if not, we go and play something else, simple.

 

Cheers

 

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not effectual villains (something Gaider cannot do)

 

Jon Irenicus.

 

The fact that you're so impressively wrong about something like that in the first paragraph leads me to suspect that the rest of your post will be the typical sort of rubbish that a sock puppet who actually agrees with Dutch might post, and thus not worth repeating. Turns out I'm right.

 

This derision just becomes more and more ironic, considering how many romance/sex related topics you've started. 

 

I'm guessing his parents don't monitor his gaming activities the way they do his internet privileges (though you wouldn't know it from his post history), and so he's reduced to playing these games for titillation.


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This derision just becomes more and more ironic, considering how many romance/sex related topics you've started.


How many have I started exactly? I'm not in the subforum where the sickos goes.

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I think a lot of fans still buy games from Bioware because at this point we've grown to accept they're not in their prime anymore. They peaked in the late 2000s, and it's been in decline ever since. I and many others thought they were gonna knock DA:I outta the park. I mean they had 3.5 years to develop the game, so there was no excuse this time, whereas you could excuse DA2 and SOME of ME3's shortcomings on limited time for development. But then DA:I came out, and the realization that Bioware, no matter how much time given, just doesn't have the magic anymore had set in.
Tempered Expectations. That's pretty much the general attitude. At this point I can only expect decent - good RPGs from Bioware.

I'm the opposite of this. I had some reservations about the entire DAI concept in the first place -- for me, Bio is where you go to get away from open-world, not to get more of it. So I liked DAI about as much as I expected to. And I thought that ME2 and ME3 were improvements on ME1, and DA2, while not as good as DA:O, had lots of strengths. The most disappointing game for me is still the NWN OC.

As for ME:A, who the hell knows?