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#101
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Andromeda, or any BW game for that matter would have to be pretty bad for me to skip it.

 

While DAI disappointed me, I'd still buy it at full price without regrets. It's a good game but it just didn't match my expectations for Bioware.

 

And before someone says "lulz DA2", I loved that game almost as much as DA:O.


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I will only give up on MEA if it is made as a first person shooter or they pick an ending that is not the destroy ending.

 

If they do not pick an ending then that is fine. I also do not want any team member connections from the old game.

Surprise us with something new Bioware now that you have the chance to start fresh.


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I already have extremely low expectations for MEA.

I'm curious to see what they do with it (because they like to try out new stuff), but I don't expect to like the game overall.

If I do, bonus!
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ME3's ending was a major disappointment but it didn't ruin the franchise for me. So far, I've really enjoyed the DA series and am excited for DA4, especially after Trespasser. So, no, I don't think MEA will make me give up on Bioware. They are one of the few game companies that I respect due to their attempts at diversity.



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I'd probably give up on ME:A, and then evaluate the next Bioware game on its own merits.

 

You know, like a normal person.

Pretty much says it all. Even though i favor some developers over others, i still play and then judge the game based on its own merits. Fanboyism with developers and franchises are getting abit out of hand lately. 


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I saw that the devs stated the story will be about our character becoming a Hero.

 

I wonder if we will have Paragon playthrough options or if it will be more like DAI where I am forced to be the ''good guy'' stereotyped hero. They also stated that exploration and the story will be bridged into the game similar to DAI.....uggh



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I don't have big expectations for MEA, I'm thinking it's going to follow the Stargate plot which was at times interesting but at other times kinda boring. I am not going to preorder, i wil probably just wait a couple of months and buy it. I am just curious to see how the universe is expanded.

 

But I could never give up on Mass Effect.



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no.



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I enjoyed playing DAI

 

If Andromeda is disappointing, I don't know. Depends on what was bad about it.

 

More than likely I will preorder the next game regardless

Yeah this pretty much sums up how I feel too. DAI as I've said befoer is my favourite of the DA games. I'm not speaking for everyone I'm just giving my opinion. Personally aside from ME3's poorly written ending. I think Bioware has done a pretty solid job with their games. If anything certainly with Dragon Age in my opinion it's got better with each passing game. That's not to asy it didn't start off great as I still like Origins a lot it's just not my favourite. I just preffered the direction and little things that Biowaer has done with the series from there.

 

Taking the ending out of the equatoin as I think it's best not to think too muchabout it when judging ME3 as a package. I still feel that the rest of it is very solid in the way everything has been implemented. So all in all I haven't lost faith in Bioware. Stinkers are always going to show up from time to time no matter how much effort is thrown in. In my view I don't think Biowaer has really truly hada game that has been that bad yet and I hope they never do. Because I've begun to love both these 2 series


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Here's a thought: Even when a previous game is great you can still be disappointed by the subsequent offering. 



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Maybe.

The ending of ME3 didn't bother me nearly as much as it did others, I would be more interested in how they go about the game play. It seems like everytime a company tries to reinvent the wheel, we end up with a box that just dosen't work.

They basically got the game play mostly right for ME2 and 3, with a little bit of honing and listening to the "genuine" concerns of the players. (don't make it a fetchfest, or fill it with useless gameplay/cutscenes.., or worse, blood and gore like they did in DA2.., what a disaster) I think they could make a great game. We can only hope, if not, we go and play something else, simple.

 

Cheers

Yeah excactly the ending didn't bother me much either. I admit it's not the best but even some TV shows have had poorly written finalre's when they signed off things don't always go to plan but the rst of the experience of ME3 is pretty solid for me.



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Here's a thought: Even when a previous game is great you can still be disappointed by the subsequent offering. 

Very true but to be fair to Bioware I think most of their games have been successful in what they wanted to achieve I think and as long as that trend looks like it continues I'll be happy to support them with my money.



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I thought the space kid was the pinnacle of sci-fi writing myself, I hope Bioware does something similar with ME:A



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I doubt it will disappoint me, since Bioware hasn't disappointed me yet.  However, if I were disappointed by it, I'd probably chalk it up to different strokes for different folks and I would still buy subsequent titles.



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I'm on the fence about pre-ordering MEA. I love ME so much, I'm likely to ultimately buy the game, but I'm soured on preorders in general.

BioWare's games don't blow me away like they used to do. I was tremendously disappointed by DAI, though I'll not claim it was a terrible game. In the end, it simply wasn't what I felt it was advertised to be. DAI featured way too much of that DA gameplay that I'd always tolerated for the sake of good story. Spreading it across so many hours was too much for me.

I traded-in my DAI CE after a single playthrough, and then found a buyer for all of my DA CE/SE games. (If I'm not going to keep up with the series lore, why bother?). I've been similarly burnt on other preorders. (Anyone else preorder Watch Dogs?) So, I'm not a big fan, now.

MEA is removing a few things from the ME recipe that really appeal to me. We are seemingly no longer playing in the very near future, and we are no longer running running about in our own celestial backyard. Those backdrop features gave ME a special feel for me that likely won't be there in the more distant future in far off Andromeda.

I suspect MEA will be a solid game. I hope it will be a great game. I hope it will be a trilogy, since there is no way a standalone game could introduce a cast to rival Normandy's crew in my mind and heart. Ultimately, that's what it's all about. I want another great adventure with a great crew that I'll always remember as well as if they were real people.

If BioWare doesn't deliver, again? Well, they really are "just another game company", then. I'll still buy their games, if they're good. I'm not a fool, after all. There was a time when I bought anything that said BioWare because they were just that good. I think many of us are no longer so easily sold any longer.

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I thought the space kid was the pinnacle of sci-fi writing myself, I hope Bioware does something similar with ME:A

 

*facepalm*

 

You should probably find better Sci-Fi to read then.


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i have yet to ever really be full-on disappointed in a BioWare game. Frustrated, upset, irritated, annoyed, pissed off, angry, and sometimes just down right done? Yes. But 100% thoroughly disappointed? Nope.

 

So even if ME4 managed to somehow pull that off when even the ME3 ending couldn't then I'd just shrug and move on. The next would probably be better.



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I think the only Bioware game that I really didn't enjoy and found very little in the way of redeeming features in was BD1 so... yeah. If the ending sucks then it sucks, if the game that lead up to the ending was good it makes up for it. I know we'll get good companions, which I care about. I know we'll get situations/choices that make you sit up and take notice, which I like. I know we'll be able to shape our protagonist (hopefully more than Shepard, ME's team can take a few pointers from DA there) and I know the setting is interesting. Unless they get rid of those things I might be disappointed in SOME aspects of MEA but I won't drop the game, much less the franchise.

 

And do you know what happens when I do get disappointed with a franchise? I drop it. As in I don't come back to a forum and cry about it forever.



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I think the timeline has marched into two specific regions: the "it's a BW game" region and the "the fanbase has evolved and also devolved" area.

 

BW games are no longer the standout "holy crap this story it's so BW and there's nothing like it anywhere" marquees they used to be. That magic was bound to fade with time and commercialization and indeed it has. BW games now follow the BW formula™ and yes, the cracks in that formula are showing.

 

It's kind of odd to see people say "OMG right up until the end ME3 was perfect"; no those flaws have been there since ME1 with inexplicable NPC requests, missions that have to be solved a certain way with a very certain outcome, time-traveling telepathic NPC conversations and various other "quirks" that fans either have simply become completely used to or are deliberately ignoring; such as BW being the "company that highlights diversity and openness" that then proceeds to stock their various universes with one dimensional stereotypes based on race and occupation. Never figured that one out, and "video game storytelling shorthand" doesn't cover the glaring inconsistencies there.

 

The other is hilariously inconsistent narrative arcs. That one could take up a thread of its own, but I'll simply leave that ME2 has almost nothing to do with any other game in the series thematically speaking for many many many reasons and ways, and getting a bro hug from Wrex doesn't reverse it all at all.

 

The other corollary is that most BW fans are pretty young, and certainly more enthusiastic of the highs and more forgiving of the lows. Over the last decade though, that has started to shift, especially where patterns have started to emerge on whats makes the "BW experience".

 

More fans seem to realize that BVW tends to make pretty great worlds, but doesn't necessarily populate them well or deftly, and that tends to change how things are perceived.

 

For me it will simply be a question of whether the game in question looks fun or not. ME3MP is way fun. Hopefully MEAMP will also be.

 

After wrestling with ME2 and ME3 schizophrenic story telling, and seeing an increasingly clear picture of the Andromeda galaxy as a very very large set of fetch/favor quests, I honestly could not care less about the SP.

 

If BW games continue to look fun, I will buy them. If they look like an attempt to shoehorn in politics as a thin veneer of "story", I will not, same for containing yet more beat-you-about-the-head-and-face-with-narative thematics. Pretty simple.


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#120
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will you give up on Bioware? I will since DAI was a disappointment for me.

Give up? Depends.  I'm pretty much done with Dragon Age unless I read a crap ton of reviews and commentaries et al from gamers/reviewers who usually have the same issues with DAI as me.  With ME, I'm not disappointed enough to give up on the series but I won't be preordeing MEA, especially after hearing that their focus could be exploration. I will check out some of my favorite streamers before buying though.  

 

I am interested in the new game BW is supposed to be working on.


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No, I'll wait to see what others say (DAI was so, so long, but it wasn't the worst game ever... It just totally ruined Hawke, and left a huge plot hole on where the DA Warden left too). ME wasn't much better, I didn't even bother playing the other two because I thought ME was.... A bit lifeless... And I was playing DAO at the time, so it was a huge cultural shock to me. (And I like playing mutilply characters too!)

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I move on and continue to play video games? 

If another Bioware game comes out and I find it interesting enough, I will likely buy it just like any other product that I think I will enjoy based on my own reasoning and trusted reviews? 

 

I find "giving up" on developers to be such a silly notion. 

What does it mean? I don't pre-order their games? You shouldn't anyways no matter who the developers are. 

Does it mean I don't ever play their games? That's silly and borders on some dumb sense of "loyalty" to a corporate entity.

If the game is good, I will play it. 


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#123
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Well I'm going in with lowered expectations anyway, so I don't think I'm gonna be disappointed. I think it's more likely it'll meet my expectations or god willing, pleasantly surprise me. That'd be nice.



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I find DAI to be very underwhelming, and I don't like any of the romance options for m/m which is a big reason why I play Bioware games since there are barely any game allow you to. The game itself is filled with fetch quests. if I want a Skyrim game, I'd buy a Skyrim game. I'd prefer Bioware to be more story focus. Even with the fetch quests, there need to have storyline of some sorts if they want to go that route. I'll probably keep buying Bioware games due to simply because it's one of the very few game company that cater to my interests.


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#125
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Clearly the empirical evidence of the 134 GOTY picks suggests that you finding DAI the 'last straw' is a minority view (or is it a delusion ;) ).

 

Gaming sites love DAI, but actual fans of game not so much. Players tend to give it much lower scores, for example on Metacritic critic have given it 85/100 (average) and players 5.8/10 (average), none of critics have given negative review when majority of reviews from players are negative. There is quite bit of difference on what players like and what critics like I guess.

 

I wouldn't say DAI a last straw, not really even bad game, but it was game with many faults, some from design, some from bugs that never got and will be fixed and the game is just simply far from the overwhelming positive reviews it got from game critics.