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[Abelas Forever!]

Actually, I put some thought into the solution. If you had an ancient elf that was not Abelas but voiced by the same actor the only difference would be added lines depending on their role or the exclusion of the name. Say, Abelas was like Cullen in that he didn't travel with you but you could optionally romance him. I could see Abelas as an adviser when it comes to Solas because I don't see Abelas joining Solas at all. I won't go into why. So let's say you opted to kill Abelas. Instead, your adviser has the same body but head swap. It's still an ancient elf with the same voice and same role. Other than some altered lines it isn't a ton of extra resources. As long as you have the same body mesh and voice actor.

I would be happy if the actual Abelas would be an advisor and if he would be dead then nobody would be there. But if Abelas would be alive then he could be a romance option but you wouldn't have much romance content with him some cuddling and kissing. I can imagine the rest

[Tielis]

So now you are claiming that Elvhen magic is the reason why Leliana's head can get reattached?  Or how Anders recovered from an arrow through his neck?  Okay.....

 

I'm going to think that, in this case, if it quacks like a duck, it's a duck.  A lame retconning duck.

 

Anders was a mage and Leliana was surrounded by lyrium.  The lore has already explained both.  You're just not happy with the lore.

[chrstnmonks]

Still hung up on the death thing, I see.

 

Have you ever considered that all these "wrong resurrections" are trying to make a point about Thedas and/or the Elvhen?  Death does not mean death!  It is part of the magic of Thedas and your character thinks that it a) must be stopped, or must be embraced.

 

Mundanes vs. Mages has been the primary struggle since Dragon Age Day One.

Then confirm the "gods" of Thedas can grant resurrection spells to their followers or do it thereselves. Than change the name from Dragon age to D&D. He is dead. There is no question about that.

[Abelas Forever!]

Dead characters stay dead unless writers bring them back. They can do that if they want to.

[chrstnmonks]

Dead characters stay dead unless writers bring them back. They can do that if they want to.

Noone disputes that. But the crux of the prolbem has I see it your asking for a possiblely dead character to be brought back in a major way. That is the problem. The whole Leliana and Anders debacle is enough. Not to mention Oghern . Look if you were asking for a small optional role I would have no problem. However companion is a bit much even advisor is overdoing it. Let him remain dead and focus on someone else.

[Tielis]

LOL  I bet you guys using the "but he can be dead!" excuse are the same ones playing LOTRO and complaining that Rune-keepers and Beornings are lorebreaking.

 

Cue Cassandra:  "Deal... with... it."

 

Seriously, it's not like they just brought back people with no explanation like in other games.  If the writers feel that he will make a compelling companion and/or LI, then they will make sure his presence is explained even if he was knifed in DAI.

 

Abelas fans are simply making the request, and suggesting ways that he could be a nice addition.  Those of you stuck on the OHNOESHE'SDEAD train need to just get off of it.

[Abelas Forever!]

Noone disputes that. But the crux of the prolbem has I see it your asking for a possiblely dead character to be brought back in a major way. That is the problem. The whole Leliana and Anders debacle is enough. Not to mention Oghern . Look if you were asking for a small optional role I would have no problem. However companion is a bit much even advisor is overdoing it. Let him remain dead and focus on someone else.

You don't have to support my suggestion. It's fine. I'm not asking for that. You can hate the idea as much as you like. It's fine.

 

I made this suggestion because I fell in love with a character even though he didn't have much screen time. I think Abelas is charismatic and I would like to see him again and if devs are reading this forum I wanted them to know that. I also wanted them to know that I would like that Abelas would be a companion or LI. Well most of all I would like him to be LI.

 

I'm not going to focus on someone else. I want especially that Abelas is brought back because of who he is. That's the whole point. What ever the devs are going to do with him is totally their business. I just wanted them to know what he means to me and what I would like to see even though he can be "dead".

[daveliam]

LOL  I bet you guys using the "but he can be dead!" excuse are the same ones playing LOTRO and complaining that Rune-keepers and Beornings are lorebreaking.

 

Cue Cassandra:  "Deal... with... it."

 

Seriously, it's not like they just brought back people with no explanation like in other games.  If the writers feel that he will make a compelling companion and/or LI, then they will make sure his presence is explained even if he was knifed in DAI.

 

Abelas fans are simply making the request, and suggesting ways that he could be a nice addition.  Those of you stuck on the OHNOESHE'SDEAD train need to just get off of it.

 

And people who oppose the request are simply pointing out why including him wouldn't be a nice addition.

 

Deal....with....it.

 

 

You don't have to support my suggestion. It's fine. I'm not asking for that. You can hate the idea as much as you like. It's fine.

 

I made this suggestion because I fell in love with a character even though he didn't have much screen time. I think Abelas is charismatic and I would like to see him again and if devs are reading this forum I wanted them to know that. I also wanted them to know that I would like that Abelas would be a companion or LI. Well most of all I would like him to be LI.

 

I'm not going to focus on someone else. I want especially that Abelas is brought back because of who he is. That's the whole point. What ever the devs are going to do with him is totally their business. I just wanted them to know what he means to me and what I would like to see even though he can be "dead".

 

I can appreciate that.  But I respectfully disagree.  No hard feelings.  I think I've said my peace, though.  So enjoy talking about Abelas.  He certainly was an interesting character.  Either way, I hope we get to learn more about these ancient elves in the future.

[PorcelynDoll]

I fell in love with Abelas too. I support this 100% I would just like it if the romance wasn't elf only again.

[Abelas Forever!]

And people who oppose the request are simply pointing out why including him wouldn't be a nice addition.

People have also used arguments instead of just pointing things out.

 

 

I can appreciate that.  But I respectfully disagree.  No hard feelings.  I think I've said my peace, though.  So enjoy talking about Abelas.  He certainly was an interesting character.  Either way, I hope we get to learn more about these ancient elves in the future.

No hard feelings

[Abelas Forever!]

Now that I think about it more, it could be that Abelas isn't always as grumpy as he is when we see him. Inky has invaded his home after all. Although I mentioned in my first message that he might be very cold in the beginning of the romance. Maybe he isn't and he is completely different. Nevertheless he has made an impression on me and I can't quite explain why. Maybe it's the combination of his voice, outlook, position, the mystery around him and the sadness in him. I definitely would like to see more of him and maybe see him laugh or even joke. If he would be LI then it really doesn't matter what kind of his romance would be. Well I wouldn't like a tragic romance where there isn't a way to get a happy ending and by that I mean that there is no way to choose whether to be with him in the end or die with him.

[Alchemillia]

Team Abelas checking in!  I would love to have him back! Maybe he found a new name?! Maybe we can help him find a new one!? I'm up for it! Also I would like to point out a little bit of Cole speak from the Trespasser DLC I believe it concerns Abelas. Not sure if this would be considered spoilers because its just something he says to you when you are hanging about the Winter Palace. Does this bit of dialogue happen in play throughs with Abelas "DEAD"? 

 

 

"Bare-faced but free, frolicking fighting, fierce. He wants to give wisdom, not orders."

 

Below is the brief version of my opinion/translation of this line:

 

1. I think Solas removed his tattoo's. Because as far as we know only Solas can. (so maybe he's working along side the Dread Wolf?)(maybe he would leave if he knew said Dread Wolf hurt/killed Mythal?) 

2. I think he's(Abelas) is off having a good ol'time, Elven revolution training and teaching the old ways? (MAYBE? still not sure...) -He taught people in the Temple way back when. 

3. Perhaps he's taken the name Wisdom now? Anyone know the Elven word for wisdom?

4. Can someone p-please draw Abelas doing all this stuff. "Bare-faced but free, frolicking fighting, fierce." "FROLICKING!"( I would love you FOREVER!)

 

Also a BIG Thank you to Cole for being the greatest ghost child ever. Love him. 

 

Agree? Disagree? Opinions?

[aldien]

Oh I'm sure it's all about Solas. I'm starting to believe there is no other elf in Thedas besides him as far as the writing goes. My backlash has begun. He was probably a spirit of wisdom who Mythal coaxed out of the Fade and convinced to take physical form. Then he became tired of serving her and showed her the error of her ways and removed the vallaslin which left a scar on his forehead. Mythal and Solas had a moment of understanding. They plotted a rebellion and then Solas resented that he could no longer frolic and just wanted to continue being wisdom. It's just another self serving line. I guarantee it. I hold out little hope these days for Abelas's return in any form because then it wouldn't be about Solas. Maybe we should just shorten his name to Sol then he could be the center of the solar system too. 

 

Don't get me wrong. I'd love for him to return but I suspect I'll get another Sera LI or some elf that makes me wants to smash my fingers with a book for fun. Abelas has so much potential. His story practically writes itself. And he is incredibly sexy but I think he will probably be relegated to Solas's evil minion at best. I've gone for miserable optimism. Meh.

 

But, all that said. I love your imagery. A frolicking Abelas would be extremely amusing and sweet. I wish someone would draw that. I also enjoyed your idea of Abelas. I just wish I could be more optimistic about his return.

[Alchemillia]

I see your logic, and your lack of optimism is understandable. I don't see Solas feeling "Free" not truly free anyway. I think he views himself as bound to his path.  Also I think he would be far to sad to frolic given that he seems so remorseful about ya know having to do what he thinks he needs to do, and in some play throughs having to do the hit it and quit it  sort of thing again..sort of..ek... that was bad...sorry. 

 

Now can I also have a graphic of the "Sol-as system" with Solas' big bald head-sun shining light across planets with various Lavellan heads as other planets?? 

[Abelas Forever!]

Abelas is always alive in my playthroughs

Tresspasser spoilers:

Spoiler

I think that Cole's line meant the slaves who Solas had freed and not Abelas.

Leliana tells you that people have seen strange elves in Tirashan and they have looked like the ones in the Temple. I'm hoping Abelas is there with the sentinels.

I think that Morrigan might gather all the sentinels together and she might be the one who will oppose Solas in next DA. So instead of going to Solas Abelas has gone to Morrigan. If that's the case then there is more hope to Abelas than going to Solas because if we are going to oppose Solas it most likely will result a lot of dead people. Most likely elves.

I'm not going to give up on hope! And I'm definitely not going to give up on Abelas!
 

[aldien]

I think that line that Cole says is a glimpse into Solas's past at a guess. I know... I make babies cry with my optimism. Honestly, I really want Abelas to return. Right now I would be content with him returning so that we can see some of his humanity shine. Anything to stop the moronic Abelas is racist train of thought. I still think if he had a role like one of the Skyhold advisers he could be an LI for those of us who did not opt to stab him. Failing that, I do not see the harm in bringing him back no matter what. That's right I said it! Oh Noes... awaiting the 'but he's dead' argument people. Save your breath. I don't care. Nothing is going to convince me that this elf is anything less than the finest, hottest, sexiest male elf to ever grace Thedas. Them thighs. So shushies. Abelas for DA4!

[Abelas Forever!]

He is not dead He just fainted

[Alchemillia]

He is not dead He just fainted

LOL YES! He just woke up from a very long nap, and then fought off Mythal knows how many crazed red lyrium corrupted templars? Then he ran through his house which is pretty friggin big, then up a flight of magic friggin stairs. AND THEN had to listen to a bunch of weird shemlen argue over his "moms" pool. THEN he gets stabbed by the weird shem pool invader who has been chasing him through his friggin house...he's tired and his thighs are tired too! probably just laying there playing dead until all these people just leave so he can get on with his time.  XD Maybe take a longer nap. Ya'know after he changes the locks on the temple, polishes his knee faces and disposes of all the corpses that have been left behind by all these crazy shemlen! *unless he is a giant slob like Fenris*  *love you Fenris but its been years and there are corpses near the sofa*

 

NEVER LOSE HOPE! 

[aldien]

Those knee faces! LoL! They still crack me up to this day. 

 

Oh! I had forgotten all about Fenris's special collection. Hawke is a really forgiving person. I see your Marian up there. She was my favorite and the Fenris romance *swoons*

 

I hope he comes back. I do. I just hope it isn't as the Solas minion. I may have to go deal with the Abelas thread Aldien style in a moment. Trolls have arrived.

[Alchemillia]

 I may have to go deal with the Abelas thread Aldien style in a moment. Trolls have arrived.

Ooo I wanna come too! To lurk and to help stuff those trolls back under their bridges if need be! pleeease? link?

[aldien]

Ooo I wanna come too! To lurk and to help stuff those trolls back under their bridges if need be! pleeease? link?

It was a big misunderstanding in the end...  But you should come to the Abelas thread and meet every one. We are friendly: http://forum.bioware...0#entry19720832

[Meredydd]

I'm all for Abelas being a companion in the next game. Him and Michael probably have a high chance anyway since they have quite large fanbases already, considering the small amount of screen time they had. If they don't end up being companions, I can see Bioware including them as NPCs at the very least.