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[Ashagar]

A lot of Irony in the sitution, I vote for the Tevinter creator diety later known as the maker for being behind it as a method of protecting his creations in the long run. As a side note do you think they could imply more heavly where the next game was going to take place? And just what is it with people stabbing inanimate objects in dragon age?

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I used to hate Cory a lot for being one of the worse villains in a Bioware game but since he screwed over Solas, I kinda appreciate him now because he one-upped the all-so-mighty Dread Wolf. 

[SwobyJ]

*Converts to Ventatori*

[dragonflight288]

So the Blight in its own perverse way saved the world from Solas. Nice.

 

LOL. 

 

So true. 

 

The very force the chantry teaches is the Maker's punishment for man's pride is the key to the salvation from the elven's pantheon's Loki, or God of Rebellions or whatever. 

[dragonflight288]

Nah, that's not the real irony.

 

The real irony is that Corypheus could have died, and the Inquisitor would still have had the anchor. Thus rendering Solas's plan of high-tailing it into the Fade (much like Corypheus) moot.

 

Corypheus's only contribution to foiling Solas was making away with the Orb. Which it's not clear if Solas could have gotten anyway, because Leliana and Casandra's forces were right in the area to secure the site before the Inquisitor popped out anyway.

 

As we see in Trespasser, even with the Anchor, Solas has control over it. If the Inquisitor attacks Solas, he uses it to paralyze the Inquisitor with pain. 

 

And I don't think Solas could have gotten the orb physically, but he has a small army of spies, one of them was a guard in the Inquisition and he tells us that he discovered the Qunari plot because his spies started tripping over their spies, so he may have gotten it through them. All it would take is a guard to take it and report they saw nothing. 

 

So yeah, I think the real irony is Corypheus actually saved the world from Solas by complete accident. 

[agonis]

*facepalm*

 

Of course, the Throne of God was empty, just as Corypheus said.

 

The one "god" that remained was walking among the living and not at home...

[lynroy]

*facepalm*

Of course, the Throne of God was empty, just as Corypheus said.

The one "god" that remained was walking among the living and not at home...

HA!

[agonis]

Oh, dear, another revelation:

 

Beginning of the first blight - a mage did it.

Kirkwall destroyed - a mage did it.

Rift opened - a mage did it.

Creator of veil wants to kill all to bring back the past - a mage, again.

 

And what do we do to solve the last problem? Excactly, we go to Tevinter, the biggest bastion of mages known to us.

 

How doesn´t this sound like a bad idea? *laughs*

[caradoc2000]

Oh, dear, another revelation:
 
Beginning of the first blight - a mage did it.
Kirkwall destroyed - a mage did it.
Rift opened - a mage did it.
Creator of veil wants to kill all to bring back the past - a mage, again.
 
And what do we do to solve the last problem?

The butler did it - Bodahn and Sandal save the day.

[lynroy]

The butler did it - Bodahn and Sandal save the day.

10/10 would bang

[Dean_the_Young]

As we see in Trespasser, even with the Anchor, Solas has control over it. If the Inquisitor attacks Solas, he uses it to paralyze the Inquisitor with pain. 

 

Nah, that's not the point: it's not about if the Inquisitor attacks Solas. It's that, by having the anchor in the first place, Solas's plans to re-enter the Fade are scrambled.

 

Unless I really misunderstood the Solas confrontation of Tresspasser, Solas doesn't get the anchor even by removing the Inquisitor's arm. He, like Corypheus, would find that the anchor was bound to someone who wasn't him.

[dragonflight288]

Nah, that's not the point: it's not about if the Inquisitor attacks Solas. It's that, by having the anchor in the first place, Solas's plans to re-enter the Fade are scrambled.

 

Unless I really misunderstood the Solas confrontation of Tresspasser, Solas doesn't get the anchor even by removing the Inquisitor's arm. He, like Corypheus, would find that the anchor was bound to someone who wasn't him.

 

*shrug*

 

Right then.

 

Maybe he was counting on Corypheus to unlock the power of the orb itself, and then use that to enter the Fade, but the orb is shattered after the fight with Corypheus.

 

Of course, if Solas is in the party when we go into the Fade at Adamant, why didn't he just fulfill his purpose there? 

[LobselVith8]

The biggest irony of all is playing Inquisition as an elf.

"My whole life is a lie." A sentence I often repeated aloud while playing Tresspasser. (annoying my boyfriend on several occassions...)

Feeling sorry for unsung hero Corypheus didn´t even enter my mind. I was too preoccupied feeling sorry for myself.

I see it differently. They were right about their ancestors being immortal, about the existence of the Creators, and about Fen'Harel imprisoning them. It's hardly as though everything was a lie.

Clan Lavellan governed Wycome, and potentially Kirkwall with Comte Lavellan and any clans from Skyhold who follow him, is a very hopeful sign that they can finally build a future for themselves.

[lynroy]

*shrug*

 

Right then.

 

Maybe he was counting on Corypheus to unlock the power of the orb itself, and then use that to enter the Fade, but the orb is shattered after the fight with Corypheus.

 

Of course, if Solas is in the party when we go into the Fade at Adamant, why didn't he just fulfill his purpose there? 

He couldn't because he needed the Orb and the Anchor, neither of which he had at the time.

[Razored1313]

To add to the hilarity solas could potentially have ended up in the fade anyway....when he was too weak to do anything about it...with the anchor he lost to corypheus and then the inquisitor. The inquisitor unknowingly trolled him

[LobselVith8]

To add to the hilarity solas could potentially have ended up in the fade anyway....when he was too weak to do anything about it...with the anchor he lost to corypheus and then the inquisitor. The inquisitor unknowingly trolled him

His plans have a habit of backfiring. I guess we should be grateful that, when the Inquisitor and Dorian ended up in the future (with the veil torn down), it wasn't already overrun by the Evanuris.

[Amne YA]

all hail to our lord and savior, the true hero of dragon age inquisition;Corypheus

[SgtSteel91]

I appreciated my own personal irony when I played my Trevelyan as someone who chafed at the idea of serving the Chantry like their family expected them to but in the end called for the Inquisition to transition into Divine Victoria's honor guard and peace-keeping force.

[azarhal]

After Corypheus, Hakkon and now Solas, atheism in Thedas is looking more and more attractive. 

 

Join the Chantry, the Maker is as good as nonexistent after his creation myth was finished.

[vertigomez]

After Corypheus, Hakkon and now Solas, atheism in Thedas is looking more and more attractive.

Dorfs had it right all along.

Like always.

[almasy87]

Nah, that's not the point: it's not about if the Inquisitor attacks Solas. It's that, by having the anchor in the first place, Solas's plans to re-enter the Fade are scrambled.

 

Unless I really misunderstood the Solas confrontation of Tresspasser, Solas doesn't get the anchor even by removing the Inquisitor's arm. He, like Corypheus, would find that the anchor was bound to someone who wasn't him.

 

Yeah. If Solas were able to get the Anchor he would have done it from the very beginning. He can only remove it from Quizzy's arm but not take it for himself. If you have low approval with him he tells you before removing it "Ultimately only I could have borne the mark and survived". "Could", not "can".

[LobselVith8]

Join the Chantry, the Maker is as good as nonexistent after his creation myth was finished.

Comte Revas with stick with atheism with his Dalish pals in Kirkwall.

[agonis]

I see it differently. They were right about their ancestors being immortal, about the existence of the Creators, and about Fen'Harel imprisoning them. It's hardly as though everything was a lie.

Clan Lavellan governed Wycome, and potentially Kirkwall with Comte Lavellan and any clans from Skyhold who follow him, is a very hopeful sign that they can finally build a future for themselves.

 

You are right. But it depends on how one roleplays an elven Inquisitor.

My Inquisitor for example was proud of his heritage. He belived in the elven gods.

It was a shock for him to realize that many things he was taught and never questioned were lies. Or perhaps not lies, but misinterpretations.

 

The gods, all of them mages, were members of a few very powerfull families. One can question what a god is or has to be, surely immortality and immense power is a requirement, and yes, they were both, but still... They were elven.

 

And the vallaslin, something he was proud of, just signs of slavery?

 

That´s really crushing.

 

Varric´s over the top favoritism (title of comte, key to the city) made me both sad and happy. I remembered who he used to patronise and care for in DA:II. It was Anders, Merril and Fenris. He was the reason those three were left alone by the criminals and autorities of Kirkwall.

 

And now, just as everything begins to crumble under my feet, he comes and offers a place to hide away.

Even before finishing Inquisition I somehow knew, my power as Inquisitor is dwindling, they are pushing me of the pedestal, I never asked to stand on.

And this feeling of foreboding and helplessness made his offer kind of endearing.

 

Of course, in the end my Inquisitor (being a scheming, manipulative kind of man) would use everything he is given to influence things in a way he thinks is the best, but still,... The revelations in Tresspasser were a set back. Something that needs time to sink in.

 

I´m sorry for this thread derailment. But LobselVith is a secretive kind of person and hides their profile and any possibility to message them in private.

[Gervaise]

Another bit of  irony if you are Dalish, you were not invited to the Conclave but had snuck in there as a spy.   It is because you were snooping around that you happened to stumble in on Cory and get the anchor.   Seems like the Inquisition was riddled with elven spies from the beginning.    My Lavellan was happy enough to play along with the Inquisition because it was the perfect place for him to continue his mission of information gathering.     Then blow me if they didn't ask him to lead the organisation.    It is noticeable that if you didn't state belief in the Maker then the Divine wants you to disband the Inquisition, whereas if you do believe you are Andraste's Herald, she wants it kept together.   I know when I'm not wanted and certainly got a whole lot more information than my Keeper anticipated.   Set up my clan nicely in Wycombe, put Briala in charge of Orlais (though that might not continue without my backing) and Varric has kindly made me a land owner.    So all in all its worked out rather well, apart from Solas wanting to destroy the world.    It is important to keep focus when you're doing something important like trying to track down the Dread Wolf and kill him, so didn't have time for being the Divine's police force any way.

[FemHawke FTW]

Corypheus and Marauder Shields, unsung heroes of Bioware.