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[Hathur]

Bit of an odd question, but I was playing Trespasser with my father watching me play through the game. (For context,  my father suffered a below-elbow amputation after a gunshot wound while working (PMC). 

 

He seemed rather curious by the scene when the inquisitor's arm is amputated by Solas. In the final scene where Solas severs the arm, the Inquisitor's hand goes from a clenched fist and slowly opens after it is severed. I personally thought nothing of this detail at all .. however, for my father it was a powerful and impactful moment. When he was shot, he sustained a lot of catastrophic damage to his veins and suffered massive nerve damage in the arm. He was sitting in the back seat of a car while his co-workers tried to rush him to safety and during that time (before he passed out which took awhile), he distinctly recalls "watching my arm die" and he described to me in vivid detail how his hand was originally in a clenched fist also and gradually, against his will, it opened up as his arm lost more and more blood and he lost control of it due to the nerve damage. When he reached a hospital much much later, his hand was stuck open.

 

Anyways, my father was curious whether this was a conscious or intentional animation design choice by the developers or if it was just coincidence (i.e. did bioware research how a limb begins to gradually lose control as it dies?) etc. For my dad it was very profound (and he can empathize better than most with the Inquisitor in regards to her loss too). He suspects it wasn't researched and likely just animated that way because it looked more dramatic etc... but he was nonetheless impressed.

 

We'd both love to know the answer, that brief scene meant a lot to him

[leaguer of one]

He turns it to stone not cut it off.

[Hathur]

He turns it to stone not cut it off.

 

Really? Hm, this didn't come across to either myself or my father.. why is the hand still moving if it was turned to stone? Magical amputation underneath the gauntlet seems more likely since the hand is moving after Solas does his little spell (and he makes a sort of chop-motion with his own hand in the air, whereas when he turned the qunari to stone he simply made his eyes glow).

 

Here, I included a brief clip for the scene to clearly illustrate the part my father was referencing (note in the slow-motion how the hand goes from clenched fist to gradually open after the amputation.. this little detail is how my father says his hand behaved in its final moments before it became a lost limb)

 

[almasy87]

I envy you so much for being able to play this with your dad

I am still not sure whether the motion Solas makes is that of cutting, cause then the arm should fall off or something. In the video I have the hand looks like it's dissolving in the very last millisecond. So IMO what he did is either turned it into stone which then crumbled (like he did to Flemeth and Viddasala when his eyes were lit up), or he removed the power that was left and the arm died because there was no more life in it.

At least that's what I think XD might be wrong though. But in his gesture his hand goes forward and then back, not like a chop but like he was pulling something out of it..

(maybe I'm just imagining things)

[kukumburr]

Interesting. To be honest that scene really confused me, but I like your explanation of events. 

[SurelyForth]

Didn't Patrick confirm that he removes the mark and it gets dealt with later because there's no saving the impacted area? In that case, it is like what the OP's father went through- the mark is removed and the arm is "dying" in that scene. 

[Mr.House]

All we know is after what Solas does, the arm is dead.

[Knight of Dane]

It didn't appear to me that Solas either severed or turned it to stone, just removing the mark or terminating its activity. I was actually surprised that my Inquisitor turned up without his arm by the war table, I didn't even notice it in the final scene with the council (I thought he was holding it behind his back, like in a formal stance)

[Shechinah]

I believe Solas apparently removed the mark but the arm was too far gone and so disolved. I do not remember, however, if the source I read it from was from the developers.

[Hathur]

Didn't Patrick confirm that he removes the mark and it gets dealt with later because there's no saving the impacted area? In that case, it is like what the OP's father went through- the mark is removed and the arm is "dying" in that scene. 

 

Ah ok, this makes sense to me. He didn't cut the arm, but removing the mark caused the arm to begin dying, so it would have mimicked a limb dying of blood loss, most likely. Whether or not this animation was intentional or not to emulate how one's arm can actually perish is moot I guess, it's a neat detail regardless (accidental or otherwise heh).

[KumoriYami]

yeah someone told me that Solas did remove the In'q hand but in the cutscene its still all there so I was a bit confused.  especially when you say you want to change his mind and romanced.

[Lynroy: Final Edition]

He turns it to stone not cut it off.

He does no such thing. He only removed the anchor.

 

Didn't Patrick confirm that he removes the mark and it gets dealt with later because there's no saving the impacted area? In that case, it is like what the OP's father went through- the mark is removed and the arm is "dying" in that scene. 

Yes, Patrick did indeed confirm.

http://olessan.tumbl...ication-on-what

"Sorry if you’ve already answered this, but did Solas remove Quizzy’s arm or did they cut it off later? What’d he do to it?"

"He removed the Anchor. Your hand was too far gone at that point to save, though."

[Chlorite]

Thank you for sharing your perspective with us, this thread is quite interesting to read.

 

So the canon is, given the previous answers on this thread, that:

- Solas removes the mark

- then the arm dies, for it was somehow sustained while it was there, and has suffered dammage from the magic.

 

I must say that when I saw the scene  I did not think of that first. I somehow imagined that the anchor was sustained by the Inquisitor's nervous system, and, like a parasite, could not live without being attached to a living being. (I like to make thing unnecessary complicated, ahah)

 

So I believed that the following events happened in that order:

 

- Solas "kills" the arm = cuts off the nerve endings

- as a consequence, the arm then the anchor die, with the symptoms you describe (the nerves no longer allowing contractions - both conscious and reflex - of the muscles, so the hand is slowly opening up. Either ways, it does look like the animators paid attention to this. Thank you for making me see that!)

 

I think what I am missing is what happens of the anchor. Does it still exists somewhere? Is it on Solas now?

[Barnzi88]

I assumed after Solas permanently disabled the arm, it began disintegrating into ash after he left. That's what it looked like to me.