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Architect companion for DA4?


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JasonPogo

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So we know from the book and Awakening that the Architect wants to find a way for Darkspawn and the other races to coexist (even if his methods are questionable) and he and the Darkspawn have just as much to lose as anyone else if Solas is to destroy the veil. So he ultimately would be open to working with us. Not to mention that being another Magister himself his knowledge of magic would be around the same as Corypheus.  So he would have knowledge of some of the more advanced magic Solas might try to use against us that we would otherwise have no idea about.  The more I think about it this could actually work rather well.  And if not a  companion at least like an advisor.


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I like the idea of the architect returning but I'm not so sure about being a companion.

 

An npc, important to a main plot, or holding key information about what the protagonist needs, on the other hand.



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diaspora2k5

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Advisor is iffy as long as he's got no chill. Remember he's ultimately the guy started the 5th blight.



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Important character, yeah. Adviser/companion? Hell no. First they need to explain how he survived. Who did he jump too when I killed him? Was it Velana's sister? What happens if I just bring Anders which means I never talk to the sister and never see her and we know he does not jump to ANders? Bioware needs to properly explain this.



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I think they should just drop the Architect. I loved him in The Calling, but I don't think he should return. Leave him dead in Awakening, or say another proto-darkspawn killed him.

 

My guess is that Solas is not the Big Bad in DA4, the Big Bad will be the Qunari and possibly corrupt magisters. Agents of Solas and the Inquisitor will likely aid the protagonist in some way.

 

I don't see how the Architect would care much about what Solas is trying to do. The Architect himself was planning to destroy the world (just civilizations) so that the blight would reign. He claims he seeks coexistence, but he doesn't actually care, he just wants to live. (Argh, he was such a wasted character in Awakening, so much better in The Calling).

 

It would be nice to know more about the other ancient magisters, their reasons for going with Cory's plan, and what they are wanting to do now...

 

Wait, wasn't there a codex that talks about 3 ancient beings that sounded like fallen ancient magisters, with one running away while the second kills the third?



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I think companion is out of the question. Advisor though? That opens up the chance of a character arc with him being more understanding of peoples' reactions.

(eg. "No, Architect. Sending an army to kill everyone BUT the one you want to talk to won't help." "How curious...")



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That's the thing, by being confirmed to be a magister, he can't be dead which means he jumped to someone or something.



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Drasanil

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That's the thing, by being confirmed to be a magister, he can't be dead which means he jumped to someone or something.

 

Possibly, but the way Solas said discovered the secret to effective immortality, implies that body jumping is not necessarily an inherent property of Magisterspawn. Personally if it wasn't for Legacy, the whole explanation of Cory can body jump because a portion of his essence is tied to his dragon would be a good one. They still didn't explain why Cory could take over Wardens, when (theoretically) more powerful Archdemons couldn't. Unless Cory's mind control made Wardens willing, as per Flemeth's spiel about souls not being forcible upon the unwilling.

 

In the end too much inconsistent hofflenosh involved, all for the sake of apparently making the wardens look bad. It is a shame Bioware basically wrote themselves into a corner on this one. 



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That's the thing, by being confirmed to be a magister, he can't be dead which means he jumped to someone or something.

 

Not necessarily. I fully admit that it is likely and perhaps even probable, but we don't know for certain that the other magisters who accompanied Corypheus have the same connection to the Blight that he does.

 

It is within the realm of possibility that Corypheus was unique among them in this aspect, or that the Architect may not share the same abilities.



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I would like for the Architect to be an Adviser and have a darkspawn companion join us. seeing as we are likely going to be in tavinter I can only wonder what kind of PC and companions we are going to get I think having the Darkspawn as an ally would add a much more unique edge to the game.



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Bring darkspawn companion to major city hub and trade center. Achievement Unlock: Start A Plague.

 

Bring darkspawn to a popular party that has a buffet. Achievement Unlock: Ghouls Night Out.



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Yes please. Having as a companion in Tevinter, one of the magisters responsible for it's current state? Hell yeah. Maybe we could also get some insight into what the Old Gods and the Black City really are.

 

Possibly, but the way Solas said discovered the secret to effective immortality, implies that body jumping is not necessarily an inherent property of Magisterspawn. Personally if it wasn't for Legacy, the whole explanation of Cory can body jump because a portion of his essence is tied to his dragon would be a good one. They still didn't explain why Cory could take over Wardens, when (theoretically) more powerful Archdemons couldn't. Unless Cory's mind control made Wardens willing, as per Flemeth's spiel about souls not being forcible upon the unwilling.

 

In the end too much inconsistent hofflenosh involved, all for the sake of apparently making the wardens look bad. It is a shame Bioware basically wrote themselves into a corner on this one. 

Actually Cory could bodyjump before he got his dragon. Putting his essence in a dragon is what actually disrupted that power when the dragon died. That makes me think the rest can as well.



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. . .And I"m just sitting here comparing Gaichu (Samurai Ghoul) from Shadowrun: Hong Kong to to a Darkspawn companion. . .

Bringing the Architect or another Ancient Magister back might be interesting especially if the two are drastically different in their end goals, means, and attitudes towards the player (Legion versus Geth VI, for us Mass Effect Bros.). But, as others have mentioned, as a companion would be silly. As an important NPC? Sure, why not.



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It depends on how well they have mastered the blight.

 

The Wardens could not kill Cory because of the body jumping, so they imprisoned him. The Inquisitor just had a Rift tear him apart and sucked into the Fade while his jumping ability was compromised (that was a weird rational, but its fantasy and magic, so meh).

 

They all have the potential to do this, but that doesn't mean they know. The Architect believed he was just a darkspawn that was born different.

 

My theory has always been that their souls are damned/bound to the blight. If one is killed, they are reborn through the blight, but possibly without memories, which would explain Archie. However, Cory was never able to be killed before he was able to body jump, so he was able to keep his memories, although his mind was a bit scrambled with everything that happened to him. Also, because he was sucked into the Fade, I would guess he won't be reborn, since he died in the Fade (sorta), which is like the antithesis of the blight.



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Important character, yeah. Adviser/companion? Hell no. First they need to explain how he survived. Who did he jump too when I killed him? Was it Velana's sister? What happens if I just bring Anders which means I never talk to the sister and never see her and we know he does not jump to ANders? Bioware needs to properly explain this.

That's the thing, by being confirmed to be a magister, he can't be dead which means he jumped to someone or something.

Well, Corypheus' power apparently has no range-limit, so perhaps the Architect chose to jump into something farther away instead of bothering with the Warden again *shrug*



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.Also, because he was sucked into the Fade, I would guess he won't be reborn, since he died in the Fade (sorta), which is like the antithesis of the blight.

Ha, hopefully we didn't inadvertently start tainting spirits :lol:



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Actually Cory could bodyjump before he got his dragon. Putting his essence in a dragon is what actually disrupted that power when the dragon died. That makes me think the rest can as well.

 

Hence why I said but for Legacy  -_-



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Nono, i killed that sh*t, killed freaking mother, killed all darkspawn sh*t, i'm a good grey warden