Hawke should have never went to Weisshaupt in the first place if they survive, they should have stayed as an agent to fight Cory......
So Weisshaupt was a fake-out?
#27
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 02:37
Hawke should have never went to Weisshaupt in the first place if they survive, they should have stayed as an agent to fight Cory......
Yeah, wouldn't it have made far more sense to keep Hawke around as an agent of the Inquisition, since they are the only person (save for Varric) we know that has actual first-hand experience fighting Corypheus? Especially when Hawke repeatedly stated they felt Corypheus was their responsibility and desired to help us finish the job, so keeping them around would have made perfect narrative sense!
Of course, Hawke wouldn't then have been relegated to a glorified messenger, if they'd passed that job onto, I dunno... an actual Warden?
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#28
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 02:41
It's their nice way to say that "we don't want to bring the survivor character back for DA4".
I think the character left in the fade is going to be way more important.
#29
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 02:49
The main reason I left Hawke in the fade was because I felt that Loghain makes a lot more sense to lead the wardens to Weisshaupt, I mean in the fade Hawke's all like "Corypheus is my responsibility, I should do this!" and literally 30 seconds later he leaves.
#30
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 02:54
Viscount Hawke should have gone back to Kirkwall, instead BW makes Hawke go to Weisshaupt and put Varric on the throne. Way to go BW!Hawke should have never went to Weisshaupt in the first place if they survive, they should have stayed as an agent to fight Cory......
#31
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 03:03
It's too bad we didn't have a frothing anti-mage Cullen at our disposal depending on our choices, I mean just tweak a few lines and his whole pro-templar advice could take on an entirely different tone.
Agreed, there was so much potential for so many different character developments, but they decided to put all that effort into multiplayer and huge pointless areas instead.
#32
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 03:05
Maybe Hawke showed up and the wardens asked 'who are you?'
upon explaining he was Champion of Kirkwall, they then asked 'What's a Kirkwall and why should we care?'
Then Hawke left.
Perhaps our next character will be a warden again who sorts whatever is going on out.
"What's a Mekel?"
It never ceases to amuse me when I keep finding the guy's maul all over the place.
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#33
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 03:28
#34
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 07:41
I made Blackwall Warden and asked him about the order. He said nothing certain, but as he was released to join me, so he could just sit there in Halamshiral and do nothing why couldn't Hawke just walk away? He is even no Warden and only wanted to deliver message. So all that Varric say about explosion maybe just that sort of tales he likes to tell about Hawke=)
#35
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 07:49
My Hawke wouldn't have even gone to Weisshaupt.
Screw that, screw you wardens, I don't give a crap, you're a bunch of poos and I am leaving.
#36
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 09:31
I think Varric was being prophetic when he said that he expects Weisshapt to just blow up with Hawke walking away... maybe with a few High Dragons falling to their deaths atop the ruins of the Grey Warden HQ... and all the people at the tavern Hawke visits get food poisoning, except for Hawke... and then Hawke finds a cute kitten, and just before he is about to pet it as it happily skips to him, a giant hawk swoops in and snatches the kitten away.
Bad stuff just happens around him, his super hero codename should be Jinx... he can join Blackwall and The Iron Bull... they could fight crime... (loved that banter between Blackwall and IB, just ran into again recently).
Why is it that on BSN, Hawke is just ridiculously unlucky, but Solas is an incompetent fool?
#37
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 09:42
And then the Hero of Ferelden (cured, of course) comes back and is instantly like "WHAT THE F*CKING F*CK ARE YOU GUYS DOING HERE?!" and becomes the First Warden to sort the Order out. When that's done, they either remain to First Warden on, or say "Alright, f*ck the Order, I've stopped a Blight and found the cure for the Calling, and LIVED THROUGH ALL OF THAT. I'm done with you!"
Cue headcanons.
One problem with your scenario: Ask Fiona what happens if you get "cured" of being a Grey Warden. What's next, are they going to let Anora rule them?
#38
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 09:54
Why is it that on BSN, Hawke is just ridiculously unlucky, but Solas is an incompetent fool?
Because one is player character and the other isn't. Also elves, its always the elves' fault, so that.
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#39
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 09:57
Because much of the bad stuff that happened with Solas is due to his direct involvement, which of course he totally bullsh**ted everyone about, whereas just about everything bad that happens around Hawke is due to everyone else being horribly unreliable, traitorous and insane. Gain the Arishok's respect? Well too bad, because your good friend or possibly lover runs off with his stupid Mad Bible and he destroys half the city.Why is it that on BSN, Hawke is just ridiculously unlucky, but Solas is an incompetent fool?
#40
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 10:02
Because much of the bad stuff that happened with Solas is due to his direct involvement, whereas just about everything bad that happens around Hawke is due to everyone else being horribly unreliable, traitorous and insane.
To be honest yes to his direct involvement and no to his supposed incompetence. Solas' one real mistake was not factoring previously unknown magisterspawn immortality and body hoping (though I am curious how Cory managed to sneak back into the temple to recover the orb when all grey wardens in the vicinity were exploded with him).
Compare that to Hawke, who is arguably much more incompetent considering just about everything happens because he can't be arsed to be anything more than a reactive lump. Petrice, Tallis, Anders, Isabella.
#41
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 10:06
#42
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 11:06
Hawke should have never went to Weisshaupt in the first place if they survive, they should have stayed as an agent to fight Cory......
Hawke: CORYPHEUS IS MY RESPONSIBILITY! MINE, I TELL YOU!
*Ahem*
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go to another country to deliver this letter that doesn't even pertain to me in any way. Cheerio!
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#43
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 11:14
One problem with your scenario: Ask Fiona what happens if you get "cured" of being a Grey Warden. What's next, are they going to let Anora rule them?
*shrug*
Fiona is awesome, but she didn't stop a Blight. Despite the obvious fact that she's the mother of one of the Wardens that did... but she keeps that secret.
#44
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 11:14
Grey ones at Weisshaupt kicked Hawke out after learning he released Cory from their prison.
#45
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 11:18
Grey ones at Weisshaupt kicked Hawke out after learning he released Cory from their prison.
So Hawke was sending carta dwarves against herself to get her to his prison?
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#46
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 11:19
Grey ones at Weisshaupt kicked Hawke out after learning he released Cory from their prison.
It would be more like GW if they'd rather killed Hawke so he wont tell anyone that Cory was their mistake
#47
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 11:21
So Hawke was sending carta dwarves against herself to get her to his prison?
Wouldn't be surprised if that was actually the case knowing Hawke, probably signed something without paying attention and naturally it just had to blow up in their face.
#48
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 11:23
Wouldn't be surprised if that was actually the case knowing Hawke, probably signed something without paying attention and naturally it just had to blow up in their face.
I once got kicked out of Merrils house and a horde of bandits swooped down and attacked me.
Hawkes luck is the best.
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#49
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 11:26
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#50
Posté 14 septembre 2015 - 11:30
The reception of Hawkes cameo is a big reason HoF will never appear. If they messed up on the bulk of Hawkes despite having a dominate personalty and voice, how the heck will they handle someone with no voice and dominate personality.





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