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[Qun00]

The main game and the Trespasser DLC just seem to be meant to tear down the very pillars of Dalish culture.

Blessed be the Creators! Yeah, well, they aren't actual gods. Mythal and Fen'harel are still kicking, though. Ohh and by the way... Arlathan's downfall? Not Tevinter's fault.

It feels wrong to have such privilege be wasted on someone from another race, to whom this means little beyond interesting fun facts. At least a Dalish Inquisitor is likely to share all this in the next Arlathvhen.

At the same time, I'm very attached to my (Qunari) first character, so this is a dilemma for me. Maybe it will take me some time to decide which of my Inquisitors should be canon in the Keep.

[KaiserShep]

I rather enjoy the perspective of my shemquisitor. 

 

All these pointy quasi-humans are crazy!

[Masque]

I ruined my desire to play any race other than Dalish - it was my first choice and I'm more than thrilled with the decision to make it canon. The other races just don't seem to have that deep of a connection to the story. Initially DAI was a shem protagonist only and the other races were tagged on kinda last minute. I'm so glad the Dalish were included.

[Kulyok]

Also aesthetic reasons for me. Lavellan looks so slim and beautiful next to Trevelyan (especially wearing pajamas), and there's Solas romance, and so much lore... well, I don't think I could play anyone but Lavellan female mage - conscious connection to the Fade included.

[Fredward]

I think so, yah. I'm busy with my 'most thematically appropriate' playthrough now (Solavellan, a NON mage though. I like the idea of Solas falling for something so relatively far from what he considers a person). I really think DAI is their game. DA4 might deal with the fallout of the revelations but you're actually IMMERSED in the revelations in DAI. It pains me though. I really like playing Qunari.

[Drasanil]

I ruined my desire to play any race other than Dalish - it was my first choice and I'm more than thrilled with the decision to make it canon. The other races just don't seem to have that deep of a connection to the story. Initially DAI was a shem protagonist only and the other races were tagged on kinda last minute. I'm so glad the Dalish were included.

 

Yeah, it does feel kind of weird that the DA team originally planned to have a game where all the actually relevant bits had to do with elven lore and myths and then have it be human-only. It'd be like having a game all about Orzammar and then making sure the PC was a Tal-Vashoth only. 

[Gileadan]

If anything, it made me enjoy my human Inquisitor even more, even though I was disappointed that those revelations were treated so differently than Avvar religion in Jaws of Hakkon.

After going "omg you guys think spirits are gods?" in JoH, I expected something along the lines of "lol elven gods are just magicky dudes" in Trespasser to go along with it.

[Masque]

Yeah, it does feel kind of weird that the DA team originally planned to have a game where all the actually relevant bits had to do with elven lore and myths and then have it be human-only. It'd be like having a game all about Orzammar and then making sure the PC was a Tal-Vashoth only. 

 

^Indeed.

 

I'm also delighted they decided to make Solas a romance option. I can't get enough of all that delicious angst.

 

WOOF. 

[Reznore57]

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I can't play any other race ...I don't even romance Solas...
It's just for a game that was about Faith , the Faith in the Maker doesn't get challenged very often.
But if you're Dalish , you end up trespassers without any Gods , and the one left trolled you and wants the end of the world.
Basically you're now Corypheus .
The good thing is you don't get blighted , you only loose an arm.

[themageguy]

How bad would it to be a dalish warrior or rogue , romance solas and then discover to find that at first he didn't even consider you a real person

[Ryzaki]

How bad would it to be a dalish warrior or rogue , romance solas and then discover to find that at first he didn't even consider you a real person

 

Heh I'm about to play an archer girl and see how it goes.

 

Worst comes to worst I'll headcanon her running off with Cullen later.

[themageguy]

Heh I'm about to play an archer girl and see how it goes.

Worst comes to worst I'll headcanon her running off with Cullen later.

I had Melora as a champion sword and shield (yeah an elf tank )

[Drasanil]

If anything, it made me enjoy my human Inquisitor even more, even though I was disappointed that those revelations were treated so differently than Avvar religion in Jaws of Hakkon.

After going "omg you guys think spirits are gods?" in JoH, I expected something along the lines of "lol elven gods are just magicky dudes" in Trespasser to go along with it.

 

Well, there is a difference, Solas' protestations aside, they do appear to have god-like power unlike the Avvar "gods". Heck even Solas who doesn't want to be considered a god acts in a god like fashion, firstly by re-writing the fundamental laws of Thedas and putting up the veil and then subsequently deciding he made a mistake thereby setting him on a course which will inflict incidental, though somewhat undesired, genocide on potentially the entirety of Thedas. 

 

That's some biblical shyte right there. Last time God decided He made a "mistake" the Great Flood nearly killed everything on earth.

[SurelyForth]

Also aesthetic reasons for me. Lavellan looks so slim and beautiful next to Trevelyan (especially wearing pajamas),

 

Gross.

 

This thread is why I dislike playing Lavellan (even though I'm currently playing a Lavellan whom I love). The more people act like their **** is the only **** that matters, the less I want anything to do with it. 

[BraveVesperia]

I think Lavellan is definitely the one most connected to the main plot and revelations (even if you don't romance Solas). I'm very glad my first two Inquisitors were one. I'm also glad the elven Inquisitor is Dalish. I think the revelations hit them harder because of their beliefs about the gods, 'true elves' and preserving the past.

 

But, I do think the other races are worth playing. They just needed some stronger personal stories/themes for Cadash and Adaar. With Adaar for example, we don't know a thing about Vashoth culture or what their life might have been like. Are they integrated into human societies? Do they live in little Vashoth villages? How much do they know about the Qunari? Do they have any specific beliefs or organisations?

[Kulyok]

I often think about how close this game came to being human-only... and I feel about as relieved as that one time I was a quarter-of-an-inch from being hit by a speeding car.

 

Add to that the fact that we could've been left without Cullen and Solas romances, and that car looks really scary!

[Aviena]

Add to that the fact that we could've been left without Cullen and Solas romances, and that car looks really scary!

 

Don't forget all the last-minute work to make Iron Bull available to all races! Oh god...

[Fredward]

Gross.

 

This thread is why I dislike playing Lavellan (even though I'm currently playing a Lavellan whom I love). The more people act like their **** is the only **** that matters, the less I want anything to do with it. 

 

There's a difference between 'elves have a deeper connection to the story/revelations in DAI' and 'no one else matters.'

 

Dwarves get titans for instance. Humans get mages/templars and some srs questions about their faith. Elves get to run around with their gods, find out some fundamental things about their culture that turns the majority of it into a lie, they can steal an empire, romance one of the aforementioned gods etc. Qunari apparently get some implications on their origins in Trespasser. Elves just happen to get more  this time around.

[Baboontje]

Add to that the fact that we could've been left without Cullen and Solas romances, and that car looks really scary!

Omg I'm so startled....

 

Seriously though, if those romances would've never come to pass, I'd have a hard time romancing anyone. I never do S/S romances and Blackwall is not my type at all. He's more like a dad. Only IB would get a try and then I'd probably give up since his convo's are exhausted really quick imo. Plus, his romance scenes often make me feel a bit....dirty.

 

But yeah, after Trespasser I found it really hard to be invested in anything other than my Lavellans. It's sad, really.

[Andreas Amell]

The main game and the Trespasser DLC just seem to be meant to tear down the very pillars of Dalish culture.

Blessed be the Creators! Yeah, well, they aren't actual gods. Mythal and Fen'harel are still kicking, though. Ohh and by the way... Arlathan's downfall? Not Tevinter's fault.

It feels wrong to have such privilege be wasted on someone from another race, to whom this means little beyond interesting fun facts. At least a Dalish Inquisitor is likely to share all this in the next Arlathvhen.

At the same time, I'm very attached to my (Qunari) first character, so this is a dilemma for me. Maybe it will take me some time to decide which of my Inquisitors should be canon in the Keep.

 

The entire game has been about uncovering the lost past of Thedas and its peoples. I think it's a great experience for players who put too much weight on the past.The only thing that ticks me off is knowing we can never replay our past lead characters again. 

[Drasanil]

Elves just happen to get more  this time around.

 

And to put it in perspective, the "more" they get is hardly positive unless you're completely willing to ignore the meta aspects for RPing purposes and treat everything Solas says as a bald-face lie [because, a proper Dalish should]. In fact, given all the revelations I'd say human PCs got off super easy given everything can still be waved off for them as the will of the Maker and there is absolutely nothing presented to directly challenge that. 

 

I mean it's not like Cole suddenly spilled the beans on the "true" origins of the fade and then pointed out the "Maker" was really just some really really eager faith spirit who decided creating things to worship it was the best idea ever.

[Broganisity]

As far as the thread title goes? No because why should a non-Dalish inquisitor care about the Dalish. They are not doing anyone a disservice by existing.

In regards to the actual meaning? Also no. Elves got a little more juicy information about then given that there's really not much we need to know more of concerning men. Dwarves and Qunari, however, got the short end of the stick. . .especially the Qunari, in more ways than one.

[SurelyForth]

There's a difference between 'elves have a deeper connection to the story/revelations in DAI' and 'no one else matters.'

 

Dwarves get titans for instance. Humans get mages/templars and some srs questions about their faith. Elves get to run around with their gods, find out some fundamental things about their culture that turns the majority of it into a lie, they can steal an empire, romance one of the aforementioned gods etc. Qunari apparently get some implications on their origins in Trespasser. Elves just happen to get more  this time around.

 

Which is fine- what's not fine is essentially discrediting everyone else's playthrough choices and slamming/minimizing other Inquisitors because they like one race the best. Personally, I find playing a Lavellan a trial because of how much there is in the game- the writing does a great deal to make the Dalish look like idiots, their "gods" look like monsters, and it turns out that the thrill of smooching one of those "gods" is only a thrill if you're okay with him viewing you as less than a person and planning to kill you and everyone you know. However, I understand why people like all of that stuff and why Inquisitor Lavellan is their favorite, and I don't give a ****. It's when players act as if their version of events should be The One True version that I get frustrated. 

[solomon.kosin]

That's exactly why I'm playing dalish inquisitor and likely to have it as my canon. Other races would be pleased to learn the history but for dalish its a complete world crash. Moreover, all the Solavellan stuff adds a soo great share of emotional impact
Still pity i cant play very pro-dalish quizzy and send all the great clerics to Fen'Harel and officially state that Inquisition is build to serve the Creators=)