In order for that peace to happen, you had to let them implant you with Reaper tech. Synthesis is the final evolution of life. The final evolution of life for a Reaper is a Reaper.
Early on in the game, the Reapers put a peace deal on the table, and some organics took it, but they were fooled. The Reapers let them onto their ships only to be indoctrinated. Like in ME1, where they said the longer you stay aboard Sovereign, the higher chance of being indoctrinated. A couple seconds won't hurt though.
No Reaper tech; synth/organic DNA to both groups. If Reapers were the final apex of their evolution without it, they would have ended the Harvests on their own. No more indoctrination either; Win/ win.
No Reaper tech; synth/organic DNA to both groups. If Reapers were the final apex of their evolution without it, they would have ended the Harvests on their own. No more indoctrination either; Win/ win.
Reapers are a combination of organic and synthetic DNA.
In the words of Saren, they are a union of flesh and steel. The strength of both, the weakness of neither. I am the vision of the future Shepard. The evolution of all organic life. This is our destiny. Join Sovereign and experience a true rebirth.
By choosing synthesis, you are joining the Reapers, or as the leaked script states you become one with them. Pretty much the same thing as Saren was talking about in the first game.
My point is that there is nothing to argue about. It's awful writing but it is what it is. Synthesis doesn't have the consequences or implications that it should. Oh well.
At least with Synthesis, it's likely that people were rewritten in some way that makes them more agreeable. The most troublesome one is obviously control, where you'd most definitely have swaths of angry people who don't care if the reapers want to fix stuff, because they probably wiped out all of their friends and families if not their entire home world. Not that many of them could do much about it, but it'd be a pretty long stretch of chaos, especially with those reanimated corpses lurking about.
Reapers are a combination of organic and synthetic DNA.
In the words of Saren, they are a union of flesh and steel. The strength of both, the weakness of neither. I am the vision of the future Shepard. The evolution of all organic life. This is our destiny. Join Sovereign and experience a true rebirth.
By choosing synthesis, you are joining the Reapers, or as the leaked script states you become one with them. Pretty much the same thing as Saren was talking about in the first game.
They were of synth/ organic materials, but did not have the DNA and knowledge until the Synthesis choice. I choose what is In Game rather than someone's skewed view of it.
No submission; only allowing both sides to cease killing each other. And the aftermath illustrates that both sides cooperate with each other towards a mutual future in peace.
Watching the green epilogue, it shows a reaper walking down main street while structures are being rebuilt. The problem with that is a reaper makes the ground shake making building any structure very hard to do. If the reapers want to cooperate, they would fly away so the newly fluorescent green organics can build without having the ground shaking.
With red, there's none of that. The best part is the reapers are no more. There's peace. If any problem occurs, the galaxy will deal with it. The reapers aren't needed. Of course they do provide one good thing. Materials. They'll be melted down, then molded into parts to help rebuild. So yeah. There's cooperation in destroy. excellent
Watching the green epilogue, it shows a reaper walking down main street while structures are being rebuilt. The problem with that is a reaper makes the ground shake making building any structure very hard to do. If the reapers want to cooperate, they would fly away so the newly fluorescent green organics can build without having the ground shaking.
With red, there's none of that. The best part is the reapers are no more. There's peace. If any problem occurs, the galaxy will deal with it. The reapers aren't needed. Of course they do provide one good thing. Materials. They'll be melted down, then molded into parts to help rebuild. So yeah. There's cooperation in destroy. excellent
No peace in Destruction; cycle repeats. Only a lull while organics try to repair the ruins of their mistake.
Which questions? Are you saying Stalin is an objective, well placed source for questions concerning crimes against humanity? The same way that the Catalyst is an objective, well placed source for questions concerning cyclical genocides?
I think by "personal growth" he meant intellectual enlightenment, not necessarily material growth
That's an irrelevant bit of hair-splitting. Paths, whichever you're on, even ones towards intellectual enlightenment, can lead to war, they don't have to lead to peace. That is essentially the paradox that the Catalyst describes.
That's an irrelevant bit of hair-splitting. Paths, whichever you're on, even ones towards intellectual enlightenment, can lead to war, they don't have to lead to peace. That is essentially the paradox that the Catalyst describes.
Not according to the Catalyst; a slightly more objective, well placed source.
The Catalyst isn't objective at all, nor can it see the future. It's heavily invested in its "solution" and is merely making a prediction based on its experience. However much it has seen before, this cycle is different and doesn't need its "solution."
The Catalyst isn't objective at all, nor can it see the future. It's heavily invested in its "solution" and is merely making a prediction based on its experience. However much it has seen before, this cycle is different and doesn't need its "solution."
Unlike EDI, the Catalyst does not appear to use deception, or it would have removed the Destroy option.
Unlike EDI, the Catalyst does not appear to use deception, or it would have removed the Destroy option.
Sure, but that doesn't make it right. It also could have that as a red herring. Shepard doesn't know shooting the tube will do what the Catalyst claims. In fact, the Catalyst never says to shoot the tube! And if Synthesis "is not a thing that can be forced," alternatives must be presented.
Also remember that Destroy is there first and foremost because it was expected and was the original goal.
But still, it's her body and she decides what to do with it. Shepard can convince her but he can't force her or make the choice for her.
Yes, it's now or never. But Shepard could always think about what would others think about his decision. Is it worth it? Is it absolutely necessary? And in this case it's not. There are Destroy and Control that don't change everyone and everything with unknown (at the time) implications. My problem with Synthesis (and Control to a lesser extent) is that it's thematically wrong. Nowhere in the trilogy there was a message that diversity is bad. It was the opposite. The lack of diversity killed the Protheans. Synthesis is not required for synthetics to understand organics. EDI showed organic qualities very good on her own: humour and love towards Joker. And nor it's needed to stop conflicts between organics and synthetics. Quarians and the Geth managed that.
Yes the Mother alone has the choice. She can be informed but the choice ultimately comes down to her because she is the only one capable of making the choice. That choice will effect the child for better or worse. A lot like the ending of the game.
Where does it say/show Synthesis removes diversity? This seems to be a very common set up when it comes to synthesis ending. The complaints about it aren't supported even vaugly by anything said or shown in game.
There is no removal of diversity. Their respective societies might change but that change would happen due to advancements in technology anyways. Protheans were killed by Reapers but it was lack of a diverse MILITARY STRATEGY that ultimately caused their defeat. Which has no baring on the effect of Synthesis on the galaxy.
Besides the fact I like this song a lot. It is about how you can't actually understand someone's situation till you have been in it. This is a fundamental fact of life. It doesn't matter how much you study something you can not fully understand it until you have experienced it yourself. Organics can learn the quarks of synthetics and synthetics can write massive programs on how to interact with each other but neither side will fully understand each other until they have walked a mile in each others shoes.
Quarians and Geth stopped fighting because they were facing a mutual enemy that vastly over powered either of them. That is great for short term but not really long term peace.
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