Synthesis does not require death, loss of free thought, etc; all life gains compatible DNA sequences and means to galactic peace and prosperity.
Synthesis requires Shepard's death. And arguably the death of every organic being in the galaxy, to be remade as...something else.
And no one is allowed to opt out of this "solution"
And human history all by itself demonstrates that "compatible DNA sequences" doesn't mean squat when it comes to peace and prosperity.
Synthesis requires Shepard's death. And arguably the death of every organic being in the galaxy, to be remade as...something else.
And no one is allowed to opt out of this "solution"
And human history all by itself demonstrates that "compatible DNA sequences" doesn't mean squat when it comes to peace and prosperity.
Yep; requires sacrifice as noted earlier.
No one is allowed to opt out of either choices either.
It does when in the future ME Galaxy, as noted in the epilogue.
You said it doesn't require death.
You'll notice I don't like any of the choices.
That is just Bioware painting smilies on the ending without actually looking at what it entails.
@Gothpunkboy:
Collectors: Yeah, nice. So we agree that the Collectors were incapable of doing much it seems. So the backup plan was, get our research team to build a new Reaper Oh nice, now what?
4. So the Citadel relay is blocked because Sovereign can´t call in the Reaper brigade but there is the Alpha Relay. No need to gather allies and stuff, just secure the area and wait for the unstoppable army to arrive. Actually you don´t even need to secure it, the relay can be activated from the other side.
5.Counting: There are planetary entries for most human colonies. The biggest colony is supposedlyTerra Nova with 4.4 million until someone gave Bekenstein 5 million. Earth has 11.4 billion people living on it. Some people actually did the counting and reached 11.6-11.7 billion humans (listed colonies, excluding people living on nonhuman worlds). Even if we are very generous and assume that Earth has a 100 colonies (lol) which boast a population of 4 million people (double lol) the total population of all humans living in the colonies would be 440 million people. Let´s say that close to a billion people left Earth since joining the council, you still have a billion offworld, 11.4 billion on Earth. 8% and that was incredibly in favor on the offworld side
6. Sure. It is also mentioned in the wiki, but I am not sure if I would interpet it like the wiki writer. https://youtu.be/fcL7H2jSk9Q?t=5m56s ME Revelations put the first confirmed sighting of Sovereign at 2162 with Sovi grabbing his pawn saren shortly afterwards. I find Legions statement weird as well, we can go with Revelations.
The other 6: Hm? 
The Citadel Relay was probably connected to a Darkspace Relay unless the reaper pulled up some weird shenanigans. But it seems that there was a relay on the other side, the reapers could use the the connection both ways. They usually arrie through the Citadel relay and they also leave after wards.
my point was why waste time with trying to force the Citadel relay, they had a just in case backdoor after all with the Alpha Relay.
7. Yep and six months mean nothing at all. the Reaper may not care about time, but Sovereign´s plan risked a Reaper capital ship and alerting the galaxy to their presence. You could say minimal risk but well if time is a thing you don´t care about why not spend that instead?
8. According to Vigil the Reapers seized control of the Citadel and through it the Mass Relays. And that´s not flagged as speculation. Vigil was there when it happened. Vendetta refers to the Citadel as the mass relay central control hub.
https://www.youtube....h?v=Dz3E_wRRtcI
Evidently Vendetta doesn´t know everything, but seems everyone agrees that uh yeah the Citadel is the Mass Relay control hub.
9. You mean besides turning the statement "the Citadel is part of me" into a joke? Well what´s the point in putting it there wth no ability to influence its environment or communicate with the Reapers? Actually the part of being the collective intelligence implies that there is some kind of connection or some possibility of establishing a connection. It seems it doesn´t need much space from the perspective of a miles long Reaper, put it into a more mobile platform under your exclusive control, if putting it into the Citadel adds no benefit.
You said it doesn't require death.
You'll notice I don't like any of the choices.
That is just Bioware painting smilies on the ending without actually looking at what it entails.
Really, if you think about it, "I thought Asari needed other species to reproduce."
That line was a gem, and I'm sure it got tossed around quite a bit. Synthesis was the only way Shepard was assured of never hearing it again. That and low EMS destroy.... or refuse.
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Collectors aren't useless. They were created as disposable front line troops much in the same way husks or marauders were. After their purpose was for filled they altered them again to the current state in game. They lack the numbers and ability to replace said numbers if killed to be an effective fighting force in a prolonged battle.
4. Why call the Reapers in the old way? Wait it out till the time and settings are perfect and strike. Open the relay and send the signal to the Reapers to flood in. You act as if the Reapers are desperate to attack. They really aren't.
5. So numbers we don't actually have. Estimates people think exist, ignoring any mixed species planets/locations and that is how you come to your conclusion? Seems like you are missing some data that is needed. I do not doubt that Earth contains the largest population of humans. To many unknown variables to make any specific claim. Particularly when you are out right ignore mixed species area.
6.Most likely Legion meant that time and time again Sovergin would sit and wait for the correct time to activate the signal and call forth the Reapers. Needing to act though outside agents so as to keep it's existence a secret. Most likely there were times they were needed earlier and times needed later. Other wise they could have just programmed the citadel to activate automatically every 50,000 years.
Every relay in game shows to be used you have to approach the relay before using it. Maybe the Citadel is special and can avoid that one requirement. Who knows. But as for why would they wait. Why not? I can not think of any good reasons to not delay if it gives them a chance to speed up the harvest. The 50,000 year cycle isn't tight schedule that has to be done by then or else the entire plan falls apart.
7, If Sovereign's plan worked the galaxy would have know about the Reaper's anyways when they started attacking.
8. Vigil was a VI stationed on a planet that went dark almost as soon as the Reaper invasion started. Vendetta was also a VI implanted on Thessia and again abandoned shortly after the Reaper invasion started. All relays connect to the Citadel. It is how they ensure each new cycle will pick it as their place of authority. All roads lead to Rome type deal.
9. It can communicate with Reapers. The question is why would it want to interfere when it continues to study each cycle? The AI isn't malicious, its set that the Reapers are the only option for all eternity. Considering first chance that shows up when it sees the solution is failing it offers you a chance to change it.
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But choose we must. As for those that may exist that oppose this choice, as Hawkeye Pierce once said, "Let's hope it's a long and healthy hate."
I remember that line. A character from the tv series M*A*S*H. Most likely the best tv series to date. The character played by Alan Alda. Good actor.
If he was facing the catalyst, he most likely would fall over laughing at the crap the thing says about synthesis. Hawkeye Pierce never believed in forcing anything on anyboby. He would shoot the tube. So would all the other characters in the show.
Nope i didn´t ignore mixed species planets or offworlders, I upped the number to a billion which is several times the number of people in all colonies. As i said 8% of all humans would live offworld then. Humans are active in interstellar space for around 35 years, the first colony plopped down in 2152, first cointact war was 2157. That´s 28 years ago. Do you really think that a billion people left in 28 years? Or 2 or 3? If 20% of all humans now lived off Earth, that would be 2.85 billion people and the vast majority is living on alien worlds. Hm yeah, sure. Even if the first humans left Earth for alien world directly after the First Contact War, the second generation hasn´t even really reached breeding age.
I remember that line. A character from the tv series M*A*S*H. Most likely the best tv series to date. The character played by Alan Alda. Good actor.
If he was facing the catalyst, he most likely would fall over laughing at the crap the thing says about synthesis. Hawkeye Pierce never believed in forcing anything on anyboby. He would shoot the tube. So would all the other characters in the show.
Yep; requires sacrifice as noted earlier.
No one is allowed to opt out of either choices either.
It does when in the future ME Galaxy, as noted in the epilogue.
Let me ask you something: If you could end wars from happening on Earth and there were 3 solutions:
1) to implant mind-controlling chips to everyone so noone could ever think about wars;
2) to eliminate artificial boundaries between humans, change the economy and ensure that every nation lives mixed together while not asking anyone's opinion on this matter;
3) dismantle the weapons of mass destruction and disband military forces from all over the world but you'll have to make sacrifices because terrorists and warlords won't be happy about it but majority of the world's population signed the petition and world leaders support this.
What would your choice be?
Let me ask you something: If you could end wars from happening on Earth and there were 3 solutions:
1) to implant mind-controlling chips to everyone so noone could ever think about wars;
2) to eliminate artificial boundaries between humans, change the economy and ensure that every nation lives mixed together while not asking anyone's opinion on this matter;
3) dismantle the weapons of mass destruction and disband military forces from all over the world but you'll have to make sacrifices because terrorists and warlords won't be happy about it but majority of the world's population signed the petition and world leaders support this.
What would your choice be?
In that episode, Hawkeye forced Rom Howard's character to return home; was too young. Thus the reply when RH said I hate you.
Synthesis FTW
You're really reaching with that one aren't you? I would do the same. Its no where near the same as forcing the green stuff on billions/trillions of people is it?
You're really reaching with that one aren't you? I would do the same. Its no where near the same as forcing the green stuff on billions/trillions of people is it?
As it is far better than the other choices, I dood it....
After the choice is made, it doesn't. But as also noted earlier, it requires Shepard to make the Spock like sacrifice to imitate the more beneficial choice.
That was not a Spock-like sacrifice.
Spock sacrificed himself so the rest of his crew could go on living as they were. He did not force everyone to become half-Vulcan.
That was not a Spock-like sacrifice.
Spock sacrificed himself so the rest of his crew could go on living as they were. He did not force everyone to become half-Vulcan.
Then was reanimated thanks to the Genesis device; new tech.
Then was reanimated thanks to the Genesis device; new tech.
A completely unexpected development which had nothing at all to do with Spock's decision.
A completely unexpected development which had nothing at all to do with Spock's decision.
So is speaking about making everyone part Vulcan.
So is speaking about making everyone part Vulcan.
Jumping into the Synthesis beam is done with the intention of turning everyone part-synthetic.
Spock's choice to expose himself to lethal doses of radiation was done strictly to preserve everyone's life and not expose them to DNA-changing blasts of energy 
Irrelevant; select Sybthesis based on the game parameters.
I give up. You're clearly indoctrinated and you just ignore all counter arguments.
I'm afraid I can't resist pointing out that the Genesis device was such "new tech" that it also had horrible unintended consequences including nearly starting a war with the Klingons, the destruction of a planet and the death of its irresponsible creator... So maybe not the best example to extol the 'virtues' of synthesis, or any other untested technology.
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