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[kajtarp]

Talon GI was pretty terrible the last time I tried it  

 

what? that is blasphemy. accuracy + rof bonuses from hunter mode turns the talon into a beast plus you have tactical cloak for +80% and proxy mine for +20% multiplicative damage.

[kajtarp]

worst builds for me:

 

shield drain based juggernaut. press your melee key for the whole game. win. One button to rule them all. 

 

Talon merc. spam cain trip mines for the whole game. One button to rule them all. 

 

N7 shadow specced for melee and tactical cloak for bonus power. Press 1, then 3 and 3 one more. enjoy your 75 melee kills medal in the end of a gold game. two buttons to rule them all.

 

of course these kits are very strong, but absolutely boring to play.

[TheTechnoTurian]

what? that is blasphemy. 

 

[Miniditka77]

Any Volus with an Arc Pistol.  I mean, I'm sure it can be a very effective combination because the Arc Pistol is awesome, but I just could not headshot anything with the low camera angle.  Threw my aim off completely.

[GruntKitterhand]

worst builds for me:

 

shield drain based juggernaut. press your melee key for the whole game. win. One button to rule them all. 

 

Talon merc. spam cain trip mines for the whole game. One button to rule them all. 

 

N7 shadow specced for melee and tactical cloak for bonus power. Press 1, then 3 and 3 one more. enjoy your 75 melee kills medal in the end of a gold game. two buttons to rule them all.

 

of course these kits are very strong, but absolutely boring to play.

 

Agreed absolutely on the first two, couldn't disagree more on the third. Melee-focused Shadow is one of the great joys of the game for me - it's not all about double SS, it's about tactically surgically decimating Cerberus. I could list 10 dakka dakka characters that I find more boring than a melee Shadow, and whatever your personal preference might be, it can't be described as a bad build, because it's so much more effective and less boring than ES-spam.

[Quarian Master Race]

 QFE  Eagle. 

Great setup. L2P

 

FQE w Saber vs Cerberus... I have no idea why...It is just horrible.

No, you're horrible. That setup is great. L2P

 

FQE without Claymoar
 

is still amazing, just like vodka without caviar still is amazing. L2P

 

Spitfire FQE 

Great setup. L2P

Seriously, UR weapons like Eagle, Shitfire and Saber are part of the "worst build ever"? All of you have just volunteered to fite me both in Thunderdome and IRL. Nevermind that all of your suggestions are not only gud but great, even the worst quarian build ever is still better than the best build of anything else by default.

The top 5 worst builds are as follows

1) anything with flamer (especially a toaster)
2) anything with snap cheese (these two are really interchangeable)
3) drell with recon mine
4) melee puggernaut
5) siege pulse spamming puggernaut (the sound gives me PTSD attacks and immediately causes me to waste time getting missile out because motherfucking primes)

[GruntKitterhand]

Great setup. L2P

 

I've been waiting patiently for you to respond.  In my defence, Your Excellency, I was quite specific about the conditions in which I found the Eagle QFE lacking - Phantom rush, on my own.  I might has well have tried writing them strongly-worded letters 

[kajtarp]

 

3) drell with recon mine
 

 

even if recon mine is only used for scan?

[Quarian Master Race]

I've been waiting patiently for you to respond.  In my defence, Your Excellency, I was quite specific about the conditions in which I found the Eagle QFE lacking - Phantom rush, on my own.  I might has well have tried writing them strongly-worded letters 

Seriously, shock turret. They don't know what to do. I've had 4 of them all performing a dance routine around the turret while I nuke them with disruptor rounds. Time the incinerates for when they land from flips or when they are staggered by the shock. Oh, and shoot them in the face. Eagle has decent damage per shot for an automatic, so it isn't even particularly bad as far as that situation is concerned. CSMG (or really any SMG that isn't Hurrdurricane) or Phaeston, for exampes are much worse.

 

even if recon mine is only used for scan?

This type of player doesn't exist, or rather I can't see them through the goddamn smoke from their fuckіng frame destroying mine being detonated every 4 seconds.

[kajtarp]

This type of player doesn't exist, or rather I can't see them through the goddamn smoke from their fuckіng frame destroying mine being detonated every 4 seconds.

 

it does exist, me. i barely detonate the mine. i use it for the damage and slow effect and to grant visibility.

[capn233]

One of the more recent setups that was painful was BPP on a "caster" with no accuracy or ROF bonus, and we drew Geth on Condor.  That was pretty painful.  For some reason I can't remember which character I was playing, but really the same is true on almost all casters trying to run BPP.

 

edit:  It was the Saboteur.  Guess I should have taken grenade gear.

[The NightMan Cometh]

Anything using a Predator

 

 

Come on, please kill just 1 husk...just 1....ughhhh  nothing   I'm dead.

 

I honestly do think water pistols cause more damage cuz you know..they could have germs & stuff.

[Dovakiin_N7]

Great setup. L2P

No, you're horrible. That setup is great. L2P

is still amazing, just like vodka without caviar still is amazing. L2P

Great setup. L2P

Seriously, UR weapons like Eagle, Shitfire and Saber are part of the "worst build ever"? All of you have just volunteered to fite me both in Thunderdome and IRL. Nevermind that all of your suggestions are not only gud but great, even the worst quarian build ever is still better than the best build of anything else by default.

The top 5 worst builds are as follows

1) anything with flamer (especially a toaster)
2) anything with snap cheese (these two are really interchangeable)
3) drell with recon mine
4) melee puggernaut
5) siege pulse spamming puggernaut (the sound gives me PTSD attacks and immediately causes me to waste time getting missile out because motherfucking primes)

But QMR, my FQE don't reach her orgasm without Claymore. She whines even after the extraction.

[Deerber]

But QMR, my FQE don't reach her orgasm without Claymore. She whines even after the extraction.

 

"But I've been told size doesn't matter!"

"They lied."

 

[TMB903]

One of the more recent setups that was painful was BPP on a "caster" with no accuracy or ROF bonus, and we drew Geth on Condor.  That was pretty painful.  For some reason I can't remember which character I was playing, but really the same is true on almost all casters trying to run BPP.
 
edit:  It was the Saboteur.  Guess I should have taken grenade gear.

It's pretty disappointing that Bioware didn't leave the BPP on equal footing with the Hurricane or CSMG. Hurricane is vastly superior at close range while CSMG kills it at mid to long range. It's a badass looking SMG but that's pretty much where the positives stop for me.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

 

1) anything with flamer (especially a toaster)
2) anything with snap cheese (these two are really interchangeable)
3) drell with recon mine
4) melee puggernaut
5) siege pulse spamming puggernaut 

Playlist accepted!

[PatrickBateman]

It's pretty disappointing that Bioware didn't leave the BPP on equal footing with the Hurricane or CSMG. Hurricane is vastly superior at close range while CSMG kills it at mid to long range. It's a badass looking SMG but that's pretty much where the positives stop for me.

Yeah, the BPP is one of the guns that make no sense at all to me, it have nothing at all going for it compared to the Hurricane, only purpose I guess is to be used for those that want a frustrating experience, I've tried it a few times on the mighty Tsol, but even on him it just falls short.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

It is a shame about the bpp but still I think it does well in the smg ratings.
Hurricane
Csmg
Tempest
Bpp
Locust
Gpsmg
Horner
Shuriken
It's probably because the last 2 are so god awful without a scope/recoil dampener that makes the others look so much better.

[NuclearTech76]

Spitfire Drellguard without charge is the most difficult combination in the game.

[Al Swearengen of Deadwood]

Ran into a player with a 117 N7 ranking Shadow running Crusader I and Mantis X, with no gear. That setup looked incredibly fun.

Please note my sarcasm

[GruntKitterhand]

Played with a 117 N7 Shadow running Crusader I and Mantis X, with no gear. That setup looked incredibly fun.

Please note my sarcasm

 

Haha, yeah, you've also played a couple of Shadow games with some joker with high ranking CP.  

 

Worst build ever? Off-host Shadow.  And yet I keep trying it.  Thanks for the revives buddy. 

 

Seriously though, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.  In that last game with you I turned invisible for four or five waves, as did my AF, so I could only tell if it was active by running up to enemies to see if I was priming them - which is of course part of normal playstyle.  If the answer was 'yes', I was fine. A 'no', on the other hand, was slightly more problematic.  I know most people have the good sense to avoid Vanguards off-host, but the Fury is the most frustrating for me because of the inevitable glitches.

[PatrickBateman]

It is a shame about the bpp but still I think it does well in the smg ratings.
Hurricane
Csmg
Tempest
Bpp
Locust
Gpsmg
Horner
Shuriken
It's probably because the last 2 are so god awful without a scope/recoil dampener that makes the others look so much better.

Had the BPP been rare instead it would be acceptable, but UR? Biovar plis

[capn233]

Yeah the BPP needed something.  It is passable if your character has both rate of fire and accuracy bonuses.  Otherwise it is pretty much only decent against armor.  It is way too dependent on the "AP shot," since the base damage is too low relative to the poor accuracy, IMO.

 

Of course the BPP in single player was probably too powerful, but there is room in the middle.

[Al Swearengen of Deadwood]

GK, you seemed to be running the s*** out of her to me. But, AF/throw combo is a pain with delay.
When she goes invisible, I always do her dodge and she comes back, but I'm sure you already know that.
And when you got brutes with 30 yard charges on glacier, you're gonna go down with her.

[Deerber]

Yeah, the BPP is one of the guns that make no sense at all to me, it have nothing at all going for it compared to the Hurricane, only purpose I guess is to be used for those that want a frustrating experience, I've tried it a few times on the mighty Tsol, but even on him it just falls short.

Well, let's not go too far. BPP Tsol is a sight to behold, and almost every bit as powerful as the hurricane Tsol. The problem of that gun is that it needs what pretty much only 2 characters in the game have. 6 tops.