If the next set Race is a Qunari, I am all for it ![]()
How important is race selection to you in the next game? (Poll)
#126
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 11:58
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#127
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 01:01
I(Set race would always be human-only, it's the most relatable and popular).
This is why I hope we never go back to set races, even if we get dual protags. Being forced to play as human was the most disappointing thing about DA2 (for me). As much as I'm fond of Hawke, it isn't an accident that they are my least favorite protag, the least personal to me. And Hawke was so defined in who they were, that there was very little room for creating my own character; as a result I end up playing Hawke almost exactly the same way every time. If we're going to mix that up with different backgrounds, I would rather they simply make them different races than different flavors of human. I thought DA:I approached this well, even if the late addition meant it wasn't as integrated as it could be.
When we learned the setting for DA:I, I wanted a Dalish elf more than anything else, because the opportunity to play as Dalish in the Dales with all the history and potential for a Dalish elf was too much to pass up. (And it exceeded my expectations.) Race choice deeply influences how my characters react to the world, and that's as important as how the world reacts to them. For instance, going through parts of the alienage storyline were far more psychologically punishing for my Surana than my Cousland, and influenced how I played him going forward. One of my Lavellans went atheist by the time DA:I was done, and that influences how I play him. A religious human character that has no real reason to believe the Maker doesn't exist, might not have the same reaction and make the same decisions that Lavellan or another elf does. Even a religious elf, Maker or Creators, would potentially have a very different view point from a human of any belief, simply based on history and social situation.
Now going to Tevinter, not only is there the large elven slave population (with a history older than other modern elven populations in Thedas), but there's also an elven god of rebellion and a huge elven plot still unfolding. There's also Arlathan sitting on Tevinter's border, and it would be a shame not to be able to visit that with an elven pc. This is similar to my feelings going into DA:I, where I didn't want to dig into all that elven lore with a human to whom it would be little more than a curiosity. And it's far more interesting for elves to rediscover their own history and push for their own change, than for them to be led by humans. There should remain voices other than the ones trying to destroy the world. It's very easy to paint "other" peoples with a broad brush, and forget to apply the same nuances that is given the more "relatable" people.
We also have a Qunari war starting, and the closer we get to Par Vollen, the more relevant a Qunari character will become, I imagine.
It can be a little harder to find relevancy for dwarves, but if Valta and the business with the Titans appears again, or if we should happen to swing down to Kal-Sharok sometime, there's that. And I don't want to be around when they finally announce a dwarven LI, and there's no actual dwarven pc available. ![]()
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#128
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 01:05
If it's not in, there is zero chance i'm buying DA4. I have no interest at all as playing a human, and if race selection is removed, we all know the default hero will be human.
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#129
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 03:21
It's very important to me too. If I want to play a human I can play pretty much every other game in existence. It was the reason why I loved DA:O and one of the reasons I disliked DA2. If inquisition didn't have that option I wouldn't even bother replaying it at all.
#130
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 03:38
This is absolutely one of the most important features for me. I'd say for sure that I wouldn't buy it with a set human protagonist, but I'd probably cave and buy it anyway. But it is definitely one of the most important features that I'm looking for in DA4. Without a doubt.
#131
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 03:40
It would be a deal breaker if they removed gender options, taking race options away aint no big deal for me an the resopurces could be spent enhancing the pc story more
It one of the reasons i dont play the witcher games, i just do not like the pc, hopefully blahblahprojects next adventure includes gender selection then i could get on board with there games
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#132
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 03:57
Race selection is very important to me. It enhanced the replayability of the game significantly.
#133
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 04:06
Well, I want different races for sure. Playing a human in DA games always felt very boring to me, there is a reason I have only one Hawke.
But, maybe if they added different backgrounds to a human character, like they originally wanted to do in Inquisition? Like, you can be from Orlais, Fereldan, Antiva, you can be a noble, a slave, a bard... I think that would be very interesting.
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#134
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 04:07
They can compromise, give you a choice between Elf and Human. We can't possibly go against the Egg without the delicious drama of being an elf, and human must always be an option. Without having to worry about Dwarves and Qunari, BW can create a story more attuned to your choice of race.
EDIT: and it means we can have origins back, even if you can only play two races.
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#135
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 04:27
They can compromise, give you a choice between Elf and Human. We can't possibly go against the Egg without the delicious drama of being an elf, and human must always be an option. Without having to worry about Dwarves and Qunari, BW can create a story more attuned to your choice of race.
EDIT: and it means we can have origins back, even if you can only play two races.
This is the worst case scenario for me. If they are going to include racial options, I want dwarves. Particularly if they going to be in Tevinter, which has some strong connections with the dwarves because of the lyrium trade.
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#136
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 04:39
They can compromise, give you a choice between Elf and Human. We can't possibly go against the Egg without the delicious drama of being an elf, and human must always be an option. Without having to worry about Dwarves and Qunari, BW can create a story more attuned to your choice of race.
EDIT: and it means we can have origins back, even if you can only play two races.
I like this
That said I know some dwarf fan friends who would surely cry >.>
#137
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 04:46
I absolutely hated being forced to play as a human in DA2. Race is such an important aspect of life in Thedas, and it reinforces the fantasy setting and sets up interesting conflicts and histories. Elves, dwarves and Qunari are all important to the political situation in Tevinter. However, I would like to see better integration into the storyline and not just the window dressing they glossed onto DAI.
#138
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 04:56
This is the worst case scenario for me. If they are going to include racial options, I want dwarves. Particularly if they going to be in Tevinter, which has some strong connections with the dwarves because of the lyrium trade.
I would love for them to include all 4 races, but if they have to cut down, Qunari and Dwarves will be the first to go. The vast majority of DA:I playthroughs will probably have been human. Of what's left, it likely goes elves > qunari > dwarves.
This survey was conducted on the Dragon Age subreddit a few weeks after the game was released. It's not representative of the entire Inquisition player base, given we only have 5000 sets of data, but according to it, humans+elves cover 80% of all, at the time current, playthroughs. Bioware will have full data from the Keep, but I wouldn't be surprised to see similar numbers. The poll on this page isn't particularly favourable to Dwarf (or Elf or Qunari) players either.
Hopefully DA:4 will have more money and resources to include all races, EA willing. But, whatever happens, it needs to be a decision from the very beginning, not like in DA:I when race selection was ... rather late.
#139
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 04:59
Not a deal breaker. I would be willing to let race selection go. Hopefully it would free them up to improve in other areas. I would also be down with Human and Elf protag only.
#140
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 05:07
However, if we went back to single race protagonist, I'd reserve judgement to see just how well they use that to tell a more personal story.
#141
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 05:38
This is the worst case scenario for me. If they are going to include racial options, I want dwarves. Particularly if they going to be in Tevinter, which has some strong connections with the dwarves because of the lyrium trade.
I'll be ridiculously salty if we visit the dwarven embassies in Tevinter... wiiiith a human protagonist.
Doesn't Dorian say something about not being able to walk in Minrathous without tripping over a dwarf? See! We belong!
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#142
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 05:47
As long as playable humans and dwarves are in, I'm good. Any other race would increase my enjoyment of the game by being an adversary.
#143
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 05:52
Thedas is about all the races, how they all tie together in this setting. The franchise started out with multiple races and we should be encouraging the devs to do a better job fleshing them all out rather than rooting for favorites. When Descent was about to come out, the interest in dwarves spiked and people made dwarves to experience that content. When Solas was revealed in the end credits, the interest in elves spiked. People started asking about the dalish elf origin back in DAO because they were willing to go back that far to see things from that perspective. When the Trespasser DLC came out, people wanted to know what kind of content Adaar got with the invading qunari forces. Just because dwarves and qunari haven't been the star of the show yet doesn't mean their day is not coming. We're clearly going to Tevinter.
Dorian: “Back home, you see dwarves everywhere … and not just from Ambassadoria.”
Dorian: “Rather odd how, in the South, everyone thinks of dwarves as merchants. Limited view, in my opinion.”
Dorian: “Maybe you’ll change that? In the future, one will hear ‘dwarf’ and think 'messiah.’ Down with stereotypes!”
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#144
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 06:05
I went human first in DAO, and that ended up being my canon.
I couldn't care less about lack of race choices in DA2, I love my Hawke(s).
I was fine when DA:I announced it was human-only, and I was fine when they announced multiple races. Now, after playing through it several times and experiencing how different it was as an elf? I want an elf in DA4.
#145
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 07:06
Thedas is about all the races, how they all tie together in this setting. The franchise started out with multiple races and we should be encouraging the devs to do a better job fleshing them all out rather than rooting for favorites. When Descent was about to come out, the interest in dwarves spiked and people made dwarves to experience that content. When Solas was revealed in the end credits, the interest in elves spiked. People started asking about the dalish elf origin back in DAO because they were willing to go back that far to see things from that perspective. When the Trespasser DLC came out, people wanted to know what kind of content Adaar got with the invading qunari forces. Just because dwarves and qunari haven't been the star of the show yet doesn't mean their day is not coming. We're clearly going to Tevinter.
Dorian: “Back home, you see dwarves everywhere … and not just from Ambassadoria.”
Dorian: “Rather odd how, in the South, everyone thinks of dwarves as merchants. Limited view, in my opinion.”
Dorian: “Maybe you’ll change that? In the future, one will hear ‘dwarf’ and think 'messiah.’ Down with stereotypes!”

#146
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 07:12
#147
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 07:23
I'm a bit torn on this to be honest. On one hand, I like having the option to play as a different race, the more options the better after all. But if having a protagonist with a set race means that they're as interesting as the companions then that would be favourable.
#148
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 07:30
They can compromise, give you a choice between Elf and Human. We can't possibly go against the Egg without the delicious drama of being an elf, and human must always be an option. Without having to worry about Dwarves and Qunari, BW can create a story more attuned to your choice of race.
EDIT: and it means we can have origins back, even if you can only play two races.
I would absolutly hate that to be honest.
Why get rid of the other races? Because they're basically the minority of players, or what? Most player don't romance a character of the same gender as their protagonist, but you don't get rid of that option either (which i'm very thankful for).
I'd love to see Tevinter's people react to dwarves or a freaking qunari. Hell, it would be super exciting playing as the race that is basically loathed in Tevinter. I think it would make a lot of sense to play one too, since there have to be a lot of Tal Vashoth there, I think (if you come from Seheron you either end up in Tevinter, the Anderfels or Antiva, right? Geographically speaking I mean.)
Give us origins back, extra dialogue and then some other unique aspects (like making certain missions easier as a human, or more difficult as an elf). I think it would be possible to accomplish, if they'd make the next game a little bit more linear like DA:O.
Trespasser reminded me a bit of Origins in terms of the flow of story, which was pretty nice in my opinion.
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#149
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 08:10
Thedas is about all the races, how they all tie together in this setting. The franchise started out with multiple races and we should be encouraging the devs to do a better job fleshing them all out rather than rooting for favorites. When Descent was about to come out, the interest in dwarves spiked and people made dwarves to experience that content. When Solas was revealed in the end credits, the interest in elves spiked. People started asking about the dalish elf origin back in DAO because they were willing to go back that far to see things from that perspective. When the Trespasser DLC came out, people wanted to know what kind of content Adaar got with the invading qunari forces. Just because dwarves and qunari haven't been the star of the show yet doesn't mean their day is not coming. We're clearly going to Tevinter.
Dorian: “Back home, you see dwarves everywhere … and not just from Ambassadoria.”
Dorian: “Rather odd how, in the South, everyone thinks of dwarves as merchants. Limited view, in my opinion.”
Dorian: “Maybe you’ll change that? In the future, one will hear ‘dwarf’ and think 'messiah.’ Down with stereotypes!”
Exactly. I would like to add that Descent gave us some nice information about the dwarven's lore and it would be disappointed if they were to expand on that in Dragon Age 4 without a dwarf pc. Plus, with all of the dwarves walking around in Tevinter, there's surly going to be some dwarven drama.
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#150
Posté 15 septembre 2015 - 08:37
Race selection is a must for me and is the reason I bought DA:I day one rather than waiting for reviews. If the next protagonist was a set race other than human I would accept it (though choice would be better) but we all know that will never happen. I wouldn't buy the next game if there was a human only protagonist.
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