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How important is race selection to you in the next game? (Poll)


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As has already been pointed out already, the question is somewhat more complicated than presented here. The question is rather that what is the role the characters background should play in the game? For example, if the character is an escaped slave in the next game, they can be of any race and have that background matter within the context of the game, with characters relevant to that background playing a role in that story. However, in that case the game really wouldn't care about the player race that much as the defining trait of the character would be that background. On the other hand, we could have again something like we had in DAI, with a race choice with varied backgrounds, but the game and the story unable to truly react or include those backgrounds in the game itself.

 

Out of those options, I would always prefer the one where the character background is present in the game itself instead of having the character be a random person in all of it. That is why Hawke will always be precious to me as s/he felt like someone to me in the game itself.

 

Although, to be fair, the question is amusingly academic with regard to DAI as the inclusion of the race choice didn't really affect the Inquisitor's role in the story at all as they always included to have different backgrounds to choose from. They just attached those backgrounds to different races.



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Is anyone else amused by the disparity between the responses in this thread and the actual standings in the poll?


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Is anyone else amused by the disparity between the responses in this thread and the actual standings in the poll?

What do you mean? Are you referring to the fact that this thread has a lot of players who like playing dwarves, but that the poll didn't? People will casually click on a poll because it's there, but people who write out responses in a thread tend to be more passionate about their opinions.


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What do you mean? Are you referring to the fact that this thread has a lot of players who like playing dwarves, but that the poll didn't? People will casually click on a poll because it's there, but people who write out responses in a thread tend to be more passionate about their opinions.


This.

I didn't even bother to vote on the poll. But made it clear if race selection is out next game, I won't even bother to buy it.

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Whoops, off-topic. :P Which thread were you referring to?

My turn to agree 100% :lol: This one.

 

More on-topic: I wonder how Andrastian views will be handled in Tevinter if we have a new protagonist. I doubt faith will be as significant to the story as DA:I, but I'm sure it will still be possible to express belief or lack thereof in some cases. In those cases, what I'm really wondering is if we'll be able to say we believe things the White Chantry does, like Andraste being the Maker's bride, or things the Black Chantry does, like her being a powerful mage and not the bride of the Maker. If we were born and raised in Tevinter and were devout, it would logically default to the latter, but it would be more interesting if we could decide. Also, I don't even know why I'm so interested in this considering all of my characters so far haven't been believers anyway ^_^



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Really I would love if dwarves and qunari not only are an option but are as good as the elf option. Maybe I'm just too elfy because it's very easy to make an attractive elf?

 

Just plz don't have the female dwarf body from DAI ever again.... Banshee already did a good rant on that travesty.


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Race selection is very important to me, especially after they brought it back in for DAI. If I can' t rp an elf in Tevinter I will be very disappointed.
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Race selection for DA and ME, i am not want play as human in Bioware games and i am not care about human heroes what we were forced to have,  as shepard for 3 games and hawke...Cousland origin was worst from all

 

it is a very dull to not have race selection in games what have many races, this is a less rpg and not our heroes then.


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Race selection for DA and ME, i am not want play as human in Bioware games and i am not care about human heroes what we were forced to have,  as shepard for 3 games and hawke

 

it is a very dull to not have race selection in games what have many races

I'd actually be more interested in race-selection for ME than DA, so I'm a bit disappointed it won't be in. Being able to play as a turian or a krogan or a geth would be awesome for story and gameplay. And they already have the baseline for how the gameplay would be different from being able to be any race in multiplayer.

 

I seem to be really off-topic today, in all of my posts :ph34r:


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I'd actually be more interested in race-selection for ME than DA, so I'm a bit disappointed it won't be in. Being able to play as a turian or a krogan or a geth would be awesome for story and gameplay. And they already have the baseline for how the gameplay would be different from being able to be any race in multiplayer.

 

I seem to be really off-topic today, in all of my posts :ph34r:

I had more fun in ME3 MP then I did in the SP simply for that reason. Krogan headbutts all day, everyday.


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I'd actually be more interested in race-selection for ME than DA, so I'm a bit disappointed it won't be in. Being able to play as a turian or a krogan or a geth would be awesome for story and gameplay. And they already have the baseline for how the gameplay would be different from being able to be any race in multiplayer.

 

I seem to be really off-topic today, in all of my posts :ph34r:

without race selection MEA is already dead to me, i do not want to play a 4 game about alliance human who would save humans and galaxy in another galaxy and have this stupid mako when we in ME2 have much better transport...not care about graphics and other, it is just a haalo like shooter

 

i never care about humans in ME, Quarians and some others races and thats all...i want to play as quarian or prothean or something what would be in a new galaxy

 

If DA4 would not have race selection and non-humans females companions to romance(cos 3 games with playable races and not have a single non-andrastian and mages elf or dwarf or kossith girls for 2-3 non-humans male heroes would be extreme)...i would not care a bit for DA..not really i want to be elf mage in Tevinter and kick Tamassrans asses, and after see destruction of veil and after that kick Solas ass and take his place on pantheon



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I like race selection, but I don't have an issue with its exclusion.



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10/10 would play as elf again.

 

Seriously though would strongly prefer selectable races but will most likely buy the next DA game if there is a human only PC as well.



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What do you mean? Are you referring to the fact that this thread has a lot of players who like playing dwarves, but that the poll didn't? People will casually click on a poll because it's there, but people who write out responses in a thread tend to be more passionate about their opinions.

 

Dwarf fans are less numerous than any other group, but we tend to really like dwarves.

 

Most people who played DAO and DAI only ever played humans and probably don't care about race selection at all - but given that a majority of people never play a female character, or a rogue, or finish the game, that's not necessarily a good reason to cut that content.

 

I would understand if DA4 went back to a human-only protagonist, but I can't say I wouldn't be sad :( . I hadn't realised how much race selection meant to me until I heard we were getting it back, and I'd hate for it to be taken away again.



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I prefer race selection. I use it to define my character and the choices he/she will make along the way.
Also helps to make different play throughs unique. for me at least.
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#166
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I would understand if DA4 went back to a human-only protagonist, but I can't say I wouldn't be sad :( . I hadn't realised how much race selection meant to me until I heard we were getting it back, and I'd hate for it to be taken away again.

this would not make sense as in DAI to have human protag who was must have elf mage by default-trailers

 

human protag with elven powers who would deal with elven magic and artifacts in elven places and will have deal with elven gods and elven veil



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If they do it like in Origins, where every race has its own prologue and story, i'm all for it.



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this would not make sense as in DAI to have human protag who was must have elf mage by default-trailers

 

human protag with elven powers who would deal with elven magic and artifacts in elven places and will have deal with elven gods and elven veil

DAI was supposed to be human only. I mean, you can still feel it in the game. Every race you can choose, seems to be oblivious to it's own culture.



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If they do it like in Origins, where every race has its own prologue and story, i'm all for it.

They only got a unique origin (after the origin there was little purpose to continue with Ostagar and on as everything after was just fluff dialog at best if you wanted a whole new experience), the story was always the same for every class, many races where not address at parts they should have been, or worse dwarves going into the fade at the circle of magi and there was alot of these complaints back at launch.

DAI was supposed to be human only. I mean, you can still feel it in the game. Every race you can choose, seems to be oblivious to it's own culture.

There's only one part where that's true for elves,and Bioware made up for that in Trespasser where nothing like the infamous "who's Mythal" happen, she even speaks in elven to Solas.



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I had more fun in ME3 MP then I did in the SP simply for that reason. Krogan headbutts all day, everyday.

Yes! There was so much awesome in MP. It's still fun. With over 50 kits and all of those different weapons, it never gets old. I wish they put the same amount of effort/resources into DAMP, and hope they do in ME:A, since otherwise I'm not really excited for it at all. Which makes me a sad Banshee.

 

 

If DA4 would not have race selection and non-humans females companions to romance(cos 3 games with playable races and not have a single non-andrastian and mages elf or dwarf or kossith girls for 2-3 non-humans male heroes would be extreme)...i would not care a bit for DA..not really i want to be elf mage in Tevinter and kick Tamassrans asses, and after see destruction of veil and after that kick Solas ass and take his place on pantheon

I'm a bit confused by what you're trying to say, but we've had 3 female Andrastian romances for males so far, and 3 non-Andrastians as well.

 

Dwarf fans are less numerous than any other group, but we tend to really like dwarves.

 

Most people who played DAO and DAI only ever played humans and probably don't care about race selection at all - but given that a majority of people never play a female character, or a rogue, or finish the game, that's not necessarily a good reason to cut that content.

I'm not saying they should cut dwarves, but to be fair, a lot more people have played a female character than a dwarf. On that note, I'd be very interested to see stats like that only for Inquisitors that have finished the game.


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Would rather a set race but not a deal breaker. I think Inquisition should be elf only but whatever.



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I'm not saying they should cut dwarves, but to be fair, a lot more people have played a female character than a dwarf. On that note, I'd be very interested to see stats like that only for Inquisitors that have finished the game.

This, what alot of us DO want from the qunari and dwarve is effort like elves get. Just look at Trespasser for elves, it's very clear that outside humans, they got the most effort put into them from making subtle changes to the crossroads that only elves can see to alot of lines with Solas being in elvish. That's what people want from dwarves and quanri. You speak qunari to Bull in the main game, yet you can't read letters in Trespasser? wtf? Also outside the infamous who's mythal, elves had alot of different dialog with Sera and Solas, and you could RP as being a role model for your people with dialog to match it. Could it have been better? Yes a playable origin would have made it better as city elf is still my fav  (tho I enjoyed dalish quizy more then dalish warden) Base DAI DID suffer because races where added mid which in honestly, these resources should have been put into the main quest and side missions.

 

WithDA4, they should make this choice early and stick to it, andt his is from someone who loves playing different races.


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They only got a unique origin (after the origin there was little purpose to continue with Ostagar and on as everything after was just fluff dialog at best if you wanted a whole new experience), the story was always the same for every class, many races where not address at parts they should have been, or worse dwarves going into the fade at the circle of magi and there was alot of these complaints back at launch.

There's only one part where that's true for elves,and Bioware made up for that in Trespasser where nothing like the infamous "who's Mythal" happen, she even speaks in elven to Solas.

I never said that it was perfect, yet i think they did a better job in Origins. True, apart from the prologue and the conclusion to their personal story, everything was the same. Still the origin story was included in to the main story. In Inquistion there is nothing. You don't meet anybody from your origin, all you get are some war table missions. I mean you can lose the whole lavellan clan in a war table mission. I personally didn't feel anything there, since i didn't see it  happening or didn't interact with any of them. A lot of the interesting things only happened in text. I hope they will go with more of a "show don't tell" in DA4.


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This, what alot of us DO want from the qunari and dwarve is effort like elves get. Just look at Trespasser for elves, it's very clear that outside humans, they got the most effort put into them from making subtle changes to the crossroads that only elves can see to alot of lines with Solas being in elvish. That's what people want from dwarves and quanri. You speak qunari to Bull in the main game, yet you can't read letters in Trespasser? wtf? Also outside the infamous who's mythal, elves had alot of different dialog with Sera and Solas, and you could RP as being a role model for your people with dialog to match it. Could it have been better? Yes a playable origin would have made it better as city elf is still my fav  (tho I enjoyed dalish quizy more then dalish warden) Base DAI DID suffer because races where added mid which in honestly, these resources should have been put into the main quest and side missions.

 

WithDA4, they should make this choice early and stick to it, andt his is from someone who loves playing different races.

Inquisitor don't know Qunlat because he is not Qunari and not even tal-vashoth. He born outside of the Qun.



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Inquisitor don't know Qunlat because he is not Qunari and not even tal-vashoth. He born outside of the Qun.

She spoke it to Bull.