How important is race selection to you in the next game? (Poll)
#176
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 01:48
Just the usual - Human, Dwarf, and Elf is fine.
#177
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 01:55
If they have qunari again in the next game, I hope they make them look more like qunari and less like grey-skinned humans. I want the races to actually have unique features (as I've explained with dwarves). Also, much better hair.
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#178
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 01:59
If they have qunari again in the next game, I hope they make them look more like qunari and less like grey-skinned humans. I want the races to actually have unique features (as I've explained with dwarves). Also, much better hair.
Like why can't I make a female qunari look like the viddasala or Rasaan? It's just sad.
#179
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 02:05
Would rather a set race but not a deal breaker. I think Inquisition should be elf only but whatever.
Just because the story has a lot of Elf-related plot elements doesn't really mean the player character should be an elf. Heck, the plot is sort of written with the perspective of an "outsider". In some ways, an Elf, and a Dalish at that, is the worst possible choice. In a way, I think a Qunari Inquisitor is the best choice, because not only do you have probably the best plot-related reason to be at the Conclave (or, at worst, tied for best reason with a non-mage Human), you are the ultimate outsider. Not a true "Qunari", not even a "Tal-Vashoth"...there's barely even a word for you.
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#180
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 02:13
Just because the story has a lot of Elf-related plot elements doesn't really mean the player character should be an elf. Heck, the plot is sort of written with the perspective of an "outsider". In some ways, an Elf, and a Dalish at that, is the worst possible choice. In a way, I think a Qunari Inquisitor is the best choice, because not only do you have probably the best plot-related reason to be at the Conclave (or, at worst, tied for best reason with a non-mage Human), you are the ultimate outsider. Not a true "Qunari", not even a "Tal-Vashoth"...there's barely even a word for you.
It's written with perspective of human and other races was just added on top. if you write for one background from the start like Hawke or Shepard you will have better result maybe not better but definitely easier and save much time you can spend improving or expending other stuff.
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#181
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 02:16
It's written with perspective of human and other races was just added on top. if you write for one background from the start like Hawke or Shepard you will have better result maybe not better but definitely easier and save much time you can spend improving or expending other stuff.
Subjective opinion is subjective.
I personally find Hawke and the backstory of the family in DA2 to be my least favorite in the series. Never connected to the character and the plot wasn't compelling.
DA: O remains the best in my opinion. And that has SEVEN perspectives that were written for.
#182
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 02:18
Frankly I think race should be limited to humans, but your class should make a huge difference in the way you are treated. Your specialization shold also play a role, and for the Maker's sake Bioware, make Necromancers/Blood Mages actual Necromancers/Blood Mages. I want to raise an army of skeletons, and summon demons, not that crap you called necromancy in Inquisition.
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#183
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 02:19
It's written with perspective of human and other races was just added on top.
That kinda fits with my point, though, that an Elf isn't necessarily the "right" choice for Inquisition because the story is written from the perspective of someone who isn't an Elf learning about Elven history with an outsider's perspective.
#184
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 03:00
Okay, but even if that's true, I'm not really sure what you think that proves.What do you mean? Are you referring to the fact that this thread has a lot of players who like playing dwarves, but that the poll didn't? People will casually click on a poll because it's there, but people who write out responses in a thread tend to be more passionate about their opinions.
Not that the poll itself proves much. The sample size is far too small. But at the very least, it demonstrates how misleading listening to the vocal minority on this forum can be.
I'm not anti-race-selection, mind you. I just don't feel it's a necessity for me.
#185
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 04:12
Okay, but even if that's true, I'm not really sure what you think that proves.
Not that the poll itself proves much. The sample size is far too small. But at the very least, it demonstrates how misleading listening to the vocal minority on this forum can be.
I'm not anti-race-selection, mind you. I just don't feel it's a necessity for me.
If the vocal minority has good ideas, it should be listened to. Obviously Bioware isn't going to choose one way or the other just because of polls. But if those people can make a good argument, being few hardly matters, and being vocal would actually be a good thing.
#186
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 04:41
If the vocal minority has good ideas, it should be listened to. Obviously Bioware isn't going to choose one way or the other just because of polls. But if those people can make a good argument, being few hardly matters, and being vocal would actually be a good thing.
True, but doesn't that basically require one side having a better argument? This whole question is ultimately about taste and priorities in that game. For example, for me, a larger priority is that character is someone within the game and their background is present in some manner. For practical purposes, that requires a set race or at least a set background which seems to be what everyone is truly discussing here. However, the counter-argument is how someone gets more enjoyment from the game by having multiple races and imagining the story from those perspectives, even if the game itself cannot properly react to those different backgrounds due practical purposes.
Both of those arguments are valid and thus it is a simply a question what kind of a story Bioware intends to create. And that is, by the way, a very important point, as the character role in a story needs to be really vague if we are allowing characters from multitude of backgrounds, for example the Inquisitor or the Warden. If the story is in anyway more personal or strives for clearer roles within the story, it requires a set background.
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#188
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 05:48
True, but doesn't that basically require one side having a better argument? This whole question is ultimately about taste and priorities in that game. For example, for me, a larger priority is that character is someone within the game and their background is present in some manner. For practical purposes, that requires a set race or at least a set background which seems to be what everyone is truly discussing here. However, the counter-argument is how someone gets more enjoyment from the game by having multiple races and imagining the story from those perspectives, even if the game itself cannot properly react to those different backgrounds due practical purposes.
Both of those arguments are valid and thus it is a simply a question what kind of a story Bioware intends to create. And that is, by the way, a very important point, as the character role in a story needs to be really vague if we are allowing characters from multitude of backgrounds, for example the Inquisitor or the Warden. If the story is in anyway more personal or strives for clearer roles within the story, it requires a set background.
I meant in general, really. I don't have much of an opinion about race selection itself, I just want a good, personal story.
#189
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 05:50
Nothing kills my excitement for a game such as this more than the words: "You can only play as a human."
When it comes to fantasy RPGs, there better be some elves, dwarves and other creatures you should be able to play as.
#190
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 06:17
#191
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 07:55
That kinda fits with my point, though, that an Elf isn't necessarily the "right" choice for Inquisition because the story is written from the perspective of someone who isn't an Elf learning about Elven history with an outsider's perspective.
Except you are learning the truth, which make playing a dalish even better. These scenes where far more powerful as a dalish and no scene in the base game comes close to the reveal about the vallasin
#192
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 08:25
But I'd like to throw in my vote!
YESYESYESYESSSS to different race protag
And LoL at OP for that elf elf elfyness
#193
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 08:28
Would rather a set race but not a deal breaker. I think Inquisition should be elf only but whatever.
Hells nah. Shemlen forever.
#194
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 10:14
Okay, but even if that's true, I'm not really sure what you think that proves.
Not that the poll itself proves much. The sample size is far too small. But at the very least, it demonstrates how misleading listening to the vocal minority on this forum can be.
I'm not anti-race-selection, mind you. I just don't feel it's a necessity for me.
It proves nothing, but it offers an explanation for your observation.
Race selection might not be a necessity for you, but others feel differently. People have different priorities.
In a way, I'm surprised at the strength of my own opinion on this particular subject, especially given that my preferred race is human. I mean, it isn't as if I'm going to be denied the opportunity to build the character I want, but that doesn't mean that I don't enjoy playing dwarves and qunari, too. I'd miss the option greatly if it were gone.
#195
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 10:41
Thedas is about all the races, how they all tie together in this setting. The franchise started out with multiple races and we should be encouraging the devs to do a better job fleshing them all out rather than rooting for favorites. When Descent was about to come out, the interest in dwarves spiked and people made dwarves to experience that content. When Solas was revealed in the end credits, the interest in elves spiked. People started asking about the dalish elf origin back in DAO because they were willing to go back that far to see things from that perspective. When the Trespasser DLC came out, people wanted to know what kind of content Adaar got with the invading qunari forces. Just because dwarves and qunari haven't been the star of the show yet doesn't mean their day is not coming. We're clearly going to Tevinter.
Dorian: “Back home, you see dwarves everywhere … and not just from Ambassadoria.”
Dorian: “Rather odd how, in the South, everyone thinks of dwarves as merchants. Limited view, in my opinion.”
Dorian: “Maybe you’ll change that? In the future, one will hear ‘dwarf’ and think 'messiah.’ Down with stereotypes!”
Yup, lets not forget the Qunari war in tevinter Dorian notes that there are quite a lot of Tal-Vashoth down in tevinter acting as mercs or merchants.
#197
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 01:03
#198
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 01:04
I just hope they are smart enough to add it from the beginning this time. So we don't get so many Dwarves not knowing Dwarf stuff and elves not knowing elf stuff since the scene was writin for a human.
Pretty much I did not have much interest in inquisition before they added the racial options and I hope this time they do it from the start so they can give the time each race deserves. I think playing as a non-human in tevinter should be interesting especially Qunari and dwarf.
#199
Posté 16 septembre 2015 - 02:04
Multiple races is pretty much a must.
#200
Posté 17 septembre 2015 - 10:06
Well, 660 votes in and the forum members who voted are damn near split down the middle. 47% want race selection to one degree or another, and 46% don't (and 6% are happy either way).
Have to admit i'm actually pretty surprised, I was expecting a landslide in favour of race selection. Though I do have to point out this was of course in no way scientific, and doesn't take into account the degree to which people care about it. As others have pointed out there are more people posting in the tread saying its a must than you'd guess from the poll results. Also the poll didn't allow for any caveats like 'only if it really makes difference' or 'only if we get to play a specific origin at the start'.
So if anyone from Bioware reads this at some point the take home might well be that no matter what you do in regard to race selection some people aren't going to be happy. So...

Just for a change... because the forums are normally such an easy going, laid back place ![]()





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