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You think there's even going to BE a DA 4?


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I understand that but if it was that simple I don't think dev would put so much emphasis of "IF" so many times... this is what strikes me as weird. Doesn't seem just "official" talk like "it is a matter of time", the way they talk is more "we REALLY don't know"

They have to say "If." Anything more could be seen or taken as a promise that it is definitely coming. Even if they know it is going to be a reality, they (most likely legally) can't say that. There are corporate approvals that have to be made behind the scenes. They most likely won't even admit they are thinking about another Dragon Age game for at least another year, even though they are.  

 

It's like when a high profile actor is rumored to be getting a role in an anticipated film. They may know 100% that they are going to do the movie, but until all the papers are signed, their official stance HAS to be "We're in talks."



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If they don't plan on making a DA4 then Trespasser was sure a dirty trick.


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Trespasser, in my estimation, may have been written in part to drive fan and media spirit toward the desire for a fourth title. it keeps people talking, which EA business analysts will note.



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If they don't plan on making a DA4 then Trespasser was sure a dirty trick.

Yes, and I have no doubt they'll be another game, but if there isn't, at least

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I expect an official announcement or leak by next summer.



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DA4 not being greenlit yet is completely standard practice.

 

Not this long after it's predecessors release it isn't. Sequels are greenlit a couple months after a title has been released. The months leading up to release are when developers begin initial work on the vertical slice. While I have no doubt there will be a DA4, for them to not have been greenlit at this point is pretty late. That being said, they probably won't even announce when they become greenlit as developers tend to keep things close to the chest until the initial reveal. We won't see another DA game for 2-3 years in all honesty.



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Not this long after it's predecessors release it isn't. Sequels are greenlit a couple months after a title has been released. The months leading up to release are when developers begin initial work on the vertical slice. While I have no doubt there will be a DA4, for them to not have been greenlit at this point is pretty late. That being said, they probably won't even announce when they become greenlit as developers tend to keep things close to the chest until the initial reveal. We won't see another DA game for 2-3 years in all honesty.

Maybe they had to wait for the end of the DLC cycle? It wouldn't be that weird considering Trespasser is important to both the story and was probably fairly successful. Bioware is also short a lot of people if they want to make DA4 before ME:A is done.



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Maybe they had to wait for the end of the DLC cycle? It wouldn't be that weird considering Trespasser is important to both the story and was probably fairly successful. Bioware is also short a lot of people if they want to make DA4 before ME:A is done.

It wouldn't have been done before ME:A, but work would have certainly begun. The DA team is working on ME:A. I have a feeling it may be some time before the game is greenlit as EA focuses on the next Mass Effect, and the new IP.



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It wouldn't have been done before ME:A, but work would have certainly begun. The DA team is working on ME:A. I have a feeling it may be some time before the game is greenlit as EA focuses on the next Mass Effect, and the new IP.

Sorry, that was poor phrasing. I meant that they'd need more people if they wanted to start serious work on DA4 before ME:A launches. But I don't think they will.



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Yeah, my guess is that work on the vertical slice (and thus the game assuming said slice meets with approval) was delayed because there isn't going to be a release window open for years anyway. With Mass Effect due this year and then maybe the new IP in 2017, they've got three years to make DA4 anyway, and this time they don't need to worry about adapting a new engine for RPGs.



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Yeah, my guess is that work on the vertical slice (and thus the game assuming said slice meets with approval) was delayed because there isn't going to be a release window open for years anyway. With Mass Effect due this year and then maybe the new IP in 2017, they've got three years to make DA4 anyway, and this time they don't need to worry about adapting a new engine for RPGs.


I am so looking forward to seeing what they can do with a three/four year dev cycle without having to spend half the time wrestling with the engine.
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Yeah, my guess is that work on the vertical slice (and thus the game assuming said slice meets with approval) was delayed because there isn't going to be a release window open for years anyway. With Mass Effect due this year and then maybe the new IP in 2017, they've got three years to make DA4 anyway, and this time they don't need to worry about adapting a new engine for RPGs.

I am so looking forward to seeing what they can do with a three/four year dev cycle without having to spend half the time wrestling with the engine.

And old consoles. Time to see what they can do!


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Considering how Inquisition ended and also being very successfull i wouldn't be surprised if the franchise will continue. But don't expect any big announcements until Andromeda is released.



I wish some people GRASP THIS like come on its common sense .The next dragon age game however its going to get deadly but not before mass effect A comes out.
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What is all this "greenlight" blithering about? In all my years playing and following bioware games i've not seen any conversations about people panicking about a game being given the go-ahead, have a group of people just picked up on the term and started to run with it? Buzzwords are fun aren't they? GREENLIGHT THE WORLD!



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So much lore, just so much that can still be explored in the DA universe. I am very optemistic for the next title.

Still, the wait will be long aNd grueling. Hopefully MEA will keep my time. I need to play back through the series and beat ME 3 for the first time.

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What is all this "greenlight" blithering about? In all my years playing and following bioware games i've not seen any conversations about people panicking about a game being given the go-ahead, have a group of people just picked up on the term and started to run with it? Buzzwords are fun aren't they? GREENLIGHT THE WORLD!


It's super-common marketing lingo which is often applied to everything from television to film to novels to games. It was used by Mark Darrah recently, so it has spread here.

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Laidlaw said right after saying they can't confirm DA4 that he's not worried. So there it is, more or less. Legally you can't say there will be a DA4 before it's officially greenlit, which is why they aren't saying that. But it feels like a foregone conclusion, otherwise there's no point in promoting Weekes to lead writer.


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What is all this "greenlight" blithering about? In all my years playing and following bioware games i've not seen any conversations about people panicking about a game being given the go-ahead, have a group of people just picked up on the term and started to run with it? Buzzwords are fun aren't they? GREENLIGHT THE WORLD!

 

That's what Corypheus wanted to do  :P


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Laidlaw said right after saying they can't confirm DA4 that he's not worried. So there it is, more or less. Legally you can't say there will be a DA4 before it's officially greenlit, which is why they aren't saying that. But it feels like a foregone conclusion, otherwise there's no point in promoting Weekes to lead writer.

Indeed. Patrick Weekes is one of Bioware's best writers (and my favourite) - it's highly unlikely EA would relegate him to the lead writer position of a franchise they aren't intending to continue, especially when there are potentially three other IPs (Mass Effect, Star Wars TOR, new IP) he could be contributing to. 



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Well, considering that EA's 4th quarter 2014 financial results highlighted Dragon Age inquisition with strong results (in fact was stated to be Bioware's best selling game at launch), there's a very strong likelihood DA4 will be financed / approved by EA when Bioware proposes the game to them.

 

source: http://investor.ea.c...eleaseID=910982


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Fixed it. Sadly until ME:A is out I doubt there will be any information at all on a new DA. Even after that Secret IP is going to take priority as it needs much more hype assistance than an established franchise. I would be surprised if there was even an official announcement by next E3. 2017 is when I'd expect to hear some real info about it.

 

Granted there might be some 'leaks' before then (DA2 and DAI were filled with leaks before they were even officially announced), but official announcement at a guess will be E3 2017 (or a similar event that year, maybe Comic-Con? [the only event I can actually go to lol]).

 

It probably depends on how far along the new IP is. If they want to get it out in fall of 2017 then I suspect we won't hear much outside of a confirmation on DA4 until E3 or PAX 2018. If their new IP isn't going to release until 2018 or 2019 then we might get more info on DA4 in 2017.



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Well, considering that EA's 4th quarter 2014 financial results highlighted Dragon Age inquisition with strong results (in fact was stated to be Bioware's best selling game at launch), there's a very strong likelihood DA4 will be financed / approved by EA when Bioware proposes the game to them.

source: http://investor.ea.c...eleaseID=910982


Although I don't doubt the game did well, I'm always going to be a pinch suspect of the notion that it did as well as EA boasted. Despite launching on five systems, it failed to chart the NPD Top 10 for November 2014. I believe it was Aaryn Flynn (could be mistaken) who later clarified it narrowly missed the chart, but it still surprised me a little.

Tough month, I guess, even by typical holiday season patterns. Also, it probably performed all the better in countries such as Germany, which have illustrated a strong passion for the franchise.

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It probably depends on how far along the new IP is. If they want to get it out in fall of 2017 then I suspect we won't hear much outside of a confirmation on DA4 until E3 or PAX 2018. If their new IP isn't going to release until 2018 or 2019 then we might get more info on DA4 in 2017.

While it is true that if SIP isn't coming for a while DA4 will get the attention, I don't think we have that long to go for the new IP. It has been in development for several years (we heard some news about it [mostly just that it existed] before DAI was officially announced [but after the unofficial announcement]), plus they seem to be moving quite a few people over to it (Gaider + several devs), which suggests it is approaching full dev phase. Based on all the info we have I'd guess it will come out not far behind ME:A.


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Yes, I too believe it is absolutely a priority well above DA4 at present. Holiday 2017 may be the internal target. Perhaps even sooner, although I rather doubt it.

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Yes, I too believe it is absolutely a priority well above DA4 at present. Holiday 2017 may be the internal target. Perhaps even sooner, although I rather doubt it.

It is interesting to notice several high profile games (FO4 most of all) were announced this year, and are releasing this year. This could be a new strategy for publishers. Instead of leaving a huge space after announcement for release for pre-orders it is possible this new business model of shorter announcement-to-release times which focuses on building hype and using that to power day 1 sales (and pre-orders are easier when you only have to wait a few months rather than a year+) could influence EA into going Announce SIP January and release it in June.

 

But you are likely correct about Holiday 2017 being the intended target. Pretty much every single Bioware game (not DLC, not xpac) has released between October and January. A few slipped past into Feb-March (ME2, DA2), but BioWare loves to target holiday season.