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[vertigomez]

This question has been asked before, but I wanted to get a little more specific. Which nation has:

The best army?
The best navy?
The best individual soldiers?
The best weapons? (Can divide into magic / smithing / technological advancement if you want)
The LARGEST fighting force?

Which would be most likely to survive a war of attrition? Who has the most/fewest allies? Which nations would bear the brunt of the damage in a World War-esque scenario, and why?

[helpthisguyplease]

The best army are the qunary, the best navy the qunary, the best individual soldiers still the qunary, the best magic tevinter, the best smithing I guess any of them and the most technological advanced are the qunary, the largest fighting force the qunary.

But if you want I can tell you who is the best without the qunary as a choice.

In a war of attrition the qunary the fewest allies still the qunary and Tevinter is the one who would bear the brunt since its right in the middle of the strongest nations.

[Yaroub]

The best army: the one of an exalted march.

The best navy: Felicisima Armada.

The best individual soldiers: Grey ones.

The best weapons: Dwarves.

The largest fighting force: Darkspawns during a blight.

[thats1evildude]

Best army, in terms of equipment and training? Orlais.

 

Best navy? The qunari. Dreadnoughts trump everything else.

 

Best individual soliders? The Anderfels has the toughest warriors.

 

Best weapons? The dwarves. The qunari are a close second.

 

Biggest army? The darkspawn. Any war of attrition will be won by them.

[Serza]

Inquisition for the best army. Hands down.

 

Qun gets off at their stupid navy, I'm sure. It wouldn't stand ONE chance againist a couple good Mages though.

 

Best individuals... There happens to be an ancient order, dedicated to protecting from the greater evil, often by utilizing lesser evils againist is. There is a reason they are called Grey.

 

The Durgen'len have the finest weapons and armor - after all, thousand years againist the Darkspawn will do that to a race.

 

And the Darkspawn can not be matched in raw manpower when the Blight begins.

[helpthisguyplease]

Yeah but he said nations not whatever that darkspawn and the grey wardens are.

[Yaroub]

Yeah but he said nations not whatever that darkspawn and the grey wardens are.

 

Wardens control the Anderfels, all answers to the first warden...And the darkspawn have the largest nation in Thedas, it just happened to be underground.

[Serza]

The Grey Wardens care not for that. They are far too badass to bother following rules.

[helpthisguyplease]

Wardens control the Anderfels, all answers to the first warden...And the darkspawn have the largest nation in Thedas, it just happened to be underground.

In a unending civil war it seems.

[Yaroub]

In a unending civil war it seems.

 

The darkspawn!...Don't mind them, they like to play it rough with each other.....At Weisshaupt everything's chill and Alistair started a "pillow war".

 

Though it's not like Thedas nations don't have a habit of starting civil wars, no?

[Augustei]

This question has been asked before, but I wanted to get a little more specific. Which nation has:

The best army?
The best navy?
The best individual soldiers?
The best weapons? (Can divide into magic / smithing / technological advancement if you want)
The LARGEST fighting force?

Which would be most likely to survive a war of attrition? Who has the most/fewest allies? Which nations would bear the brunt of the damage in a World War-esque scenario, and why?

Best army would be the Qunari, they fought all the nations of thedas to a standstill
Best Navy, The Qunari. The Felicisima Armada fought them resulting in a stalemate but the Armada isn't so unified.
Best Individual Soldiers would be the Orlesian Chevaliers, but they only make up a fraction of the Orlesian Millitary so overall it would be The Anderfels who are reputed to have the toughest soldiers, followed by the dwarves.
Best Weapons: The Dwarves.
Largest fighting force, this one is toughest to conclude, Taking a shot in the dark probably The Qunari or Orlais.

The Qunari would probably be best for a war of attrition, we read from chantry sources about the last exalted march about how they held out for decades and only surrendered and signed the accord due to the toll it was taking on the Rivaini population.
Allies? Well none of them really have allies... Everybody hates Tevinter due to the Schism, Nobody cares about The Anderfels because its so isolated, Orlais and the Marches hate Nevarra due to their expansions, Everyone looks down on the Fereldens as primatives. 
Maybe Antiva? They dominate sea trade so they likely have a deal of influence in thedas. Though Orlais can demonstrate the greatest international influence due to how much control they have over the chantry, With Cassandra saying the only reason her and Leliana were being considered for divine was because of the events at the winter palace, and also seen how the Emperor had the Divine threaten Kirkwalls old Viscount when he was taxing Orlesian ships.

Nations to bear the brunt of the damage in a world war scenario? Probably Nevarra due to its central location. With Starkhaven and Ostwick being extremely devoted to the chantry, and Kirkwalls massive Templar chapter, the earlier stated Orlesian influence over the chantry could ensure they take Orlais's side in a war. Plus theres Orlesian nobility amongst the Marcher Nobles already, such as the de Launcets. They also already hate Nevarra for their expansion into the Free Marches in the last Age.
If Tevinter were involved in the war they would be against Nevarra as well, they already have border disputes with them as we learn from War table operations in Inquisition. 
 

[Andromelek]

Best Army: Qunari, They are more disciplined than the bas, their natural strength is an advantage, the Saarebas, although are not trained, are naturally powerful and they have black powder, the only reason of why they were stopped on the Qunari Wars were numbers, the only nation that got an almost flawless victory was Antiva, of course, the best assassins on Thedas and a Witch with a big Dragon are not healthy things for any army.

Navy: Qunari as well, one ship can try to flee from their dreadnoughts, but it's unlikely any ship could beat them without a scratch.

Best Individual Soldier: Honestly many outlaw groups such like Avvar, Reavers and Sha-Brytol are harder than most of organization's, but if it has to be a nation, I assume a Tevinter mage is the most dangerous foe to be faced.

Best Weapons: The most durable armors, the Golems and crossbows able to one-shot an armored member of the Legion of the Death, I think dwarves win, hands down, Dagna and Sandal are dwarves by the way.

Largest Force: Darkspawn are numberless, but if you mean a nation's army, then Orlais, they can afford a Civil War and still fighting while they intimidate Tevinter.

Orlais is able to get more allies because they can use the Chantry as an excuse, either Tevinter or Qunari are often hated by the rest of nations and they dislike each other, the most damaged country would be Ferelden, just ask them how many Venatori fireships took to burn Denerim.

[Aimi]

This question has been asked before, but I wanted to get a little more specific. Which nation has:

The best army?
The best navy?
The best individual soldiers?
The best weapons? (Can divide into magic / smithing / technological advancement if you want)
The LARGEST fighting force?

Which would be most likely to survive a war of attrition? Who has the most/fewest allies? Which nations would bear the brunt of the damage in a World War-esque scenario, and why?

The answer to all of these questions is "whichever is most convenient for the writers".

I would also point out that "most likely to survive a war of attrition" is a nonsense question, and the "bear the brunt" question is kind of ridiculous without knowing who would actually fight in such a war.

[Andromelek]

The answer to all of these questions is "whichever is most convenient for the writers".I would also point out that "most likely to survive a war of attrition" is a nonsense question, and the "bear the brunt" question is kind of ridiculous without knowing who would actually fight in such a war.

I think he said is a FFA or a WW.

[Aimi]

I think he said is a FFA or a WW.

The only thing she said was "World War-esque scenario". Which doesn't mean free-for-all. It really doesn't mean anything at all without knowing what the sides are, what the objectives are, and what the plans are.

I mean, it's a nice thought experiment, but even in the real world such thought experiments are painfully limited. When dealing with a fictional setting, about which we have extremely limited knowledge, and over which BioWare's creative team holds total narrative fiat, it's kind of silly. Already we've seen people disagree over something which should be fairly simple (the largest military in the setting) in a way that is impossible to intersubjectively resolve.

[vertigomez]

The only thing she said was "World War-esque scenario". Which doesn't mean free-for-all. It really doesn't mean anything at all without knowing what the sides are, what the objectives are, and what the plans are.

I mean, it's a nice thought experiment, but even in the real world such thought experiments are painfully limited. When dealing with a fictional setting, about which we have extremely limited knowledge, and over which BioWare's creative team holds total narrative fiat, it's kind of silly. Already we've seen people disagree over something which should be fairly simple (the largest military in the setting) in a way that is impossible to intersubjectively resolve.

Well, sure. That's kind of the point. It's fun to see what answers people come up with and what their justifications are when we have so little to go on. Obviously the writers have Plot Power on their side, but if every thread ended with writers gunna write we'd run out of things to discuss.

I could try to come up with in-depth explanations for why everybody's at war and what kind of tactics they're using, but rly I was just imagining throwing a bunch of fictional nations in a pit and screaming "Fight fight FIGHT!" from the sidelines. >_____>

[Andromelek]

Rusell Crowe wins!

Sorry, I had to say it.

[Olwaye]

I tend to think that the best individual fighters are the Legion of the Dead, fighting darkspawn on their turf for century would qualify as toughest training ever.

 

The best standing army is probably the one the Dread Wolf will gather in the next game, because plot device.