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(Major Spoilers, Trespasser Edit) Ancient Accumulated Lore, Theories & Discussions 2.0


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Vorathrad

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Foci and eclipse I dunno but foci and ellipse...
http://www.mathopenr...llipsefoci.html

Vorathrad, you were talking about an orbit... that is elliptic... so... foci !
Solas tarot card has the sun, moon and other symbols in the astrarium target.

So. Foci may very well be related to planets, astrariums, etc. So much power... to create the Veil ?

 

Stumbling upon something with what I remember from high school science! Yay!  :D

 

There could be indeed a relationship between foci and astronomical bodies outside Thedas; it's likely that Mythal used the power of her own foci to create one of the Moons. It'd be very cool if the power to create the Veil was somehow related to using Solas foci as well as the foci from the orbits of the two moons.

 

The wiki has this on the astrariums codex:

 

Many of these relics were sought out by Andrastian cultists in the early Divine Age (the Order of Fiery Promise in particular) and destroyed. Why? Because they believed the astrariums held together the Veil, and that destroying them would destroy the Veil and thus the world.

 


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And about the hidden moon... there is probably an inspiration from the stories about a mythical "hidden planet" in the solar system, where some gods/powerful aliens are supposed to live ^^. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Evanuris were aliens from the hidden moon. There is also a weird story in the codex about orlesian theater, about a cursed show written by a mad author, taking place on the moon.
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I didn't remember that one from the Orlesian theater codex (well, I only half-read the first one *cough*) To me it seems more like a tribute to Méliès A Trip to the Moon or maybe just a reference to science fiction; but it's interesting to know that Thedosians aren't strange to the notion of life outside their planet. Isn't there a codex, related to the qunari, that mentions people coming from space or some unknown place? Ugh I have such a bad memory for codexes. 



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Here is the codex part about it :

Callista paces on the battlement over the lake. The sky is dark. She holds a cup of poison. Camallia is there, face veiled.

Callista: The dawn is late.

Camallia: It will not come again.

Callista: It must hide 'neath the clouds.

Camallia: It will not come again.

Callista: The queen thinks you dead.

Camallia, her back to the audience, faces Callista, and removes her veil.

Callista moans in fear. She drops her cup.

—From The Setting of the Light by Lumiere Bartlet

These lines are from a play said to have been one of the strangest works of its time. Bartlet was a writer of small repute who died when a fire swept through his pauper's hovel. The Setting of the Light takes place in the mysterious city of Demhe, implied to be another world that somehow becomes our own moon. Accidents, madness, and suicide plagued the first production, and some historians claim that the play's conclusion was at once so hauntingly beautiful and shockingly vile it sparked the Great Riot of Val Royeaux in 4:52 Black.

The truth will forever be a mystery. Only fourteen pages of the play remain.

—From A Compendium of Orlesian Theater, Volume V: Lost or Fragmented Works by Magister Pellinar

Fourteen pages lol, just as the phenix feathers/eyes in the Trespasser mural. Anyway, not much to do with this play, just more strange hints about light, dawn, moon, life and death, and fire again. The play is special if we believe the codex but it is hard to figure what it's about. Mythal's murder ?

Someone had a theory about the elves coming from the moon or something like that, Madrar I think ? I should read some old posts again.

Edit : ok, Demhe is a reference to the King in Yellow ! I will look into this... http://kinginyellow.....com/wiki/Demhe
The play is clearly a reference to Chambers' King in yellow, or what others authors made with it. Aliens lords and ladies feasting and dancing with masks while the world is ending from an epidemy, and then appear a mysterious messenger bringing doom on them... a city like a mirage... two moons (and two suns if I understand well)...clearly an inspiration for DA writers. We already saw the yellow sign in Skyhold and the scar in the sky in Trespasser, so it makes sense.
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"two moons and two suns?"

 

Well there are mentions of moon men and there are two moons (only one of which is visible at all times) as for 2 suns? Not sure if the Fade sun is a separate thing from the one we see in the unchanging world.

 

Heck, it could very well be possible that Elgar'nan imprisoned one of those Suns. Anyways, that's just speculation since even that's abit too farfetched for me



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Yeah, in DA we don't see two suns, but I have always wondered about this imprisoned Sun. It is said Elgar'nan accepted to release him by day... but that sounds like a fairytale to explain night and day more than a real account of an actual war, even between godlike people. Maybe the spirit of the sun was split in two or something like that (like Witherfang/Lady of the forest) one part bound to the sun in the sky, the other (the evil aspect ?) to something underground. So it would be like two suns. But of course the references can be just targeted to some elements of the King in Yellow, only the two moons and not the two suns. And maybe it is just an easter egg :P .

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Saw that egg eluvian/egg/sky motif on the headboard of the Inquisitor's default bed.