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[brokit808]

does anyone find shockwave useful? cuz i am a lvl11 Adept and i dont have any points in shockwave.  i find it  more useful to pull 2 ppl instead of shockwave with the chance of it missing.  any thoughts?

[Fhaileas]

I'll try to be discreet while answering this in the non-spoiler section but it's useful when you have swarms of "non-armored" foes attacking you especially when you maximize its ability.

[A-Chu]

Shockwave is a great ability. I use that thing on my Vanguard all the time and with SuZe giving the double whammy.. yeah..

[Raketentruppen]

Fhaileas wrote...

I'll try to be discreet while answering this in the non-spoiler section but it's useful when you have swarms of "non-armored" foes attacking you especially when you maximize its ability.

This. Shockwave turns some parts of the game from "Oh crap, tons of enemies swarming me" to "relaxing game of bowling".

[Basileus777]

It depends on the difficulty. On Veteran or below it can be useful to knock down charging enemies. On higher difficulties it is pretty useless.

[brokit808]

Basileus777 wrote...

It depends on the difficulty. On Veteran or below it can be useful to knock down charging enemies. On higher difficulties it is pretty useless.

that is why i'm not really relying on this ability.  I dont want to get use to it and all of a sudden in that later difficulties it will turn to oh crap this is useless

[malkuth74]

I just put my first point into shockwave. SOyeah. I was doing the charge one I have that at level 2. But that seems like it puts you in more danger. I only use it when I not being swarmed by 12 guys. Or only 1 or 2 are left.

[eduh]

overpowered against husks, waste of points for anything else.

[Hoffburger]

eduh wrote...

overpowered against husks on easier difficulties, waste of points for anything else.

Fixed. Also, all biotics except Warp are useless on hardcore/insanity.

[echobravo]

Hoffburger wrote...

eduh wrote...

overpowered against husks on easier difficulties, waste of points for anything else.

Fixed. Also, all biotics except Warp are useless on hardcore/insanity.

Pull is far from useless on insanity.

Modifié par echobravo, 03 mars 2010 - 03:17 .

[vdeity]

Necromancy

[echobravo]

vdeity wrote...

Necromancy

i love irony.

Modifié par echobravo, 03 mars 2010 - 03:28 .

[Clarence2679]

I love shockwave i go for improved shockwave I use it a lot for the collectors at the collectors base. the one with out barriers that is. and it knocks them right off the platform.

[Varenus Luckmann]

On Hardcore and Insane, it's absolutely useless.

On everything below, it's supposedly amazing.

[cruc1al]

Hoffburger wrote...

eduh wrote...

overpowered against husks on easier difficulties, waste of points for anything else.

Fixed. Also, all biotics except Warp are useless on hardcore/insanity.

LOL

On hardcore/insanity, warp is useless unless you combine it with other biotics, namely pull and singularity. Singularity on its own is more useful than warp because it locks down tough enemies. And Warp takes 6s to reload, so using it on a single opponent affected by pull with no enemies around it is less productive than throwing the enemy off the map. Throw has a 3s cooldown.

[Misterza]

I thought it was awesome. Charge LOOKED so cool, but was useless. I probably wasn't using it probably though.

[Metallisika]

cruc1al wrote...

Hoffburger wrote...

eduh wrote...

overpowered against husks on easier difficulties, waste of points for anything else.

Fixed. Also, all biotics except Warp are useless on hardcore/insanity.

LOL

On hardcore/insanity, warp is useless unless you combine it with other biotics, namely pull and singularity. Singularity on its own is more useful than warp because it locks down tough enemies. And Warp takes 6s to reload, so using it on a single opponent affected by pull with no enemies around it is less productive than throwing the enemy off the map. Throw has a 3s cooldown.

Except that on the harder difficulties, every single opponent you have is going to be protected, and as I am sure you know, you can't throw protected enemies off the map. Warp is more useful than any other ability to bring down defenses (barring reave), and every opponent without protection on is going to die with a couple of bursts anyway.

I'll put it simply for you: Protected enemies = biotics largely ineffective. Warp does most damage against protection types. Enemies not protected are so fast to die it's a waste of time and cooldown to use biotics against. Conclusion: all other biotics but warp are useless.

Note: singularity has its uses with blocking enemies' advance and keeping them in place after you have warped and shot down their defenses, but that's about it.

[ImperialOperative]

echobravo wrote...

vdeity wrote...

Necromancy

i love irony.

First offender is the only one that counts broseph.

[ImperialOperative]

echobravo wrote...

vdeity wrote...

Necromancy

i love irony.

First offender is the only one that counts broseph.

DOUBLE

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 03 mars 2010 - 06:03 .

[jlb524]

Even on higher difficulties, shockwave can be used to knock back shielded or armored enemies briefly incapacitating them. This can give you a tiny window of time to shoot them and take down their defenses without them shooting back.

[uzivatel]

Hoffburger wrote...

eduh wrote...

overpowered against husks on easier difficulties, waste of points for anything else.

Fixed. Also, all biotics except Warp are useless on hardcore/insanity.

How about Reave?

[glen55]

I'm playing at Veteran difficulty (not sure I want to go any higher, maybe eventually), and husk bowling is a blast with improved shockwave:

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Strike!

[lordmerchant]

i did two insanity plays, found shockwave to be great. On my vanguard playthrough I had jack use it a LOT. A lot of people will whine it is useless - just remember to take down any shiels/barriers/armour first (really not a ig task!) and it is great!