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#51
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Oh wow, it's really a neck to neck race between those who want and don't want to see the inquisitor back in the next game.
I hope BW can manage some sort of formula so that both sides can be happy and be satisfied about it.

I vote: "Don't really care but prefer not to"

Yes it'll be cool to see my Lavellan again, but honestly I'm beyond terrified of what they'll do to her in the next game (will she still be the Lavellan I knew and love?)
And she finally earned her happy ending in DAI, I don't think I'll have the heart to throw her into another gauntlet and only to have her go through the Ultimate Sacrifice in the end >.<

But I also understand why some would like the IQ to return (some would like to strangle a certain wolf personally and I totally feel for the Lavellans who are romancing him)

I'd love the idea of dual protagonist, though.. As long as there is no virmire decision between the new protag or inquisitor (and at the very least the IQ gets to be happy like HoF) then.. I'm totally on board. Like 100% on board :D
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Oh wow, it's really a neck to neck race between those who want and don't want to see the inquisitor back in the next game.
I hope BW can manage some sort of formula so that both sides can be happy and be satisfied about it.

I vote: "Don't really care but prefer not to"

Yes it'll be cool to see my Lavellan again, but honestly I'm beyond terrified of what they'll do to her in the next game (will she still be the Lavellan I knew and love?)
And she finally earned her happy ending in DAI, I don't think I'll have the heart to throw her into another gauntlet and only to have her go through the Ultimate Sacrifice in the end >.<

But I also understand why some would like the IQ to return (some would like to strangle a certain wolf personally and I totally feel for the Lavellans who are romancing him)

I'd love the idea of dual protagonist, though.. As long as there is no virmire decision between the new protag or inquisitor (and at the very least the IQ gets to be happy like HoF) then.. I'm totally on board. Like 100% on board :D

 

At the end of the day, it's their story. While i chose "yes" i will accept what they have planned for the world they want to give us. I will be slightly annoyed and disappointed if the Inquisitor doesn't deal with Solas, but i won't suddenly want to put Bioware on a pyre. Although, i can see how it would work really well with the Inquisitor, even in Tevinter. They're not a big scary foreign power anymore. They're either disbanded, or have gotten significantly smaller and work for someone is not a monarch and therefore not allied with any one country.


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I voted no on the grounds that I want the next protagonist to be a talking Mabari that can't romance anyone.

THE TEARS, GUYS.


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I voted no on the grounds that I want the next protagonist to be a talking Mabari that can't romance anyone.

THE TEARS, GUYS.

 

It's probably the only "neutral" option when it comes to what the fans want. So, i'm game for that



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Really don't want them to return as a PC. Creating a new character is one of my favourite things in each new game, plus I honestly feel like the Inquisitors story is largely done.

I'm also not a fan of the idea a dual protagonist that seems to be floating around the forum. If we very briefly get to control someone else (like sending Morrigan/Wynne/Irving/Jowan into the Fade in DA:O) then I have no problem with that, but I really don't want a story that has us switching back and forth between two actual protagonists. I like each game being a particular persons story and swapping back and forth really break immersion for me.


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Yes i would like to have my quizzie back in da4. Why? Because I want another chance at pissing off fereldan nobles....
But mainly because of Solas. It would be bull to send a random new character after him. And since Solas is hot stuff at the moment, he will probably be important in da4.

Ps. Coming back as an advisor or so is fine by me too.
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Don't really think there really exists some sort of rigid formula which justifies that a new PC is absolutely necessary and unchangable in every DA game, 

 

And there're clear and convincing evidences, mentioned for multiple times in this thread,  proving that the inquisy will remain active

 

People lay very much stress on race selection, personally I believe since you have already made your choice in DAI, why bother selecting that again..

 

You want a different race? replaying DAI would satisfy your need...

 

Some People said that the story is over, am I missing something? This doesn't look like a finished story at all...with the mastermind running away and choosing to keep you the inquisy alive and you explicitly announced thereafter that Tevinter imperium is your next destination and your need to find some new people, and that "the new people" very obviously are your future companions rather than you...the leader, okay? Why is this so hard to be comprehended correctly?


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Don't really think there really exists some sort of rigid formula which justifies that a new PC is absolutely necessary and unchangable in every DA game, 

 

And there're clear and convincing evidences, mentioned for multiple times in this thread,  proving that the inquisy will remain active

 

People lay very much stress on race selection, personally I believe since you have already made your choice in DAI, why bother selecting that again..

 

You want a different race? replaying DAI would satisfy your need...

 

Some People said that the story is over, am I missing something? This doesn't look like a finished story at all...with the mastermind running away and choosing to keep you the inquisy alive and you explicitly announced thereafter that Tevinter imperium is your next destination and your need to find some new people, and that "the new people" very obviously are your future companions rather than you...the leader, okay? Why is this so hard to be comprehended correctly?

 

I've played all endings now, as a friend, lover and enemy of Solas. Keeping the Inquisition with the "good" option makes the Inquisitor claim their "adventuring days are done" but another option with the aggressive says "I'm off to save the world again". The two mean different things, and they could have said the same thing phrased slightly differently, but they didn't. As well as this, they ALWAYS end up planning out how to get at Solas.

 

I'll call it for what it is, resolving Solas' story with anyone BUT the Inquisitor is a weak plot. More to the point, it's weak if it's because they simply wanted a new protag. I made a long winded post on plots and characters in another thread, but the bottom line is character motivation is the most important thing in a story. If the character has no reason to care, the player won't either. They will not be able to build up the same connection with Solas and a new PC. It will become a necessity, yet another "beat the big bad" rather than potentially putting the PC and player through emotional twists and turns. The reason it doesn't feel finished, putting aside the ending, is because Solas' story IS in effect the Inquisitors. They are now interconnected and need to be resolved together to get the most satisfactory ending. (I keep feeling the need to state that this is my opinion, because some people seem to get offended if i don't)


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Since Dragon Age games have multiple plot lines there is never just one and I doubt solas is gonna be the opening act villain. Hell i expect solas to be the last act villain in DA4 and still find some way to cross over into DA5. So if the inquisitors reason to return is solely solas then they won't return as a protagonist at least not until then. So my vote goes to a new hero that deals with Qunari Wars and tevinter reform then when solas time comes inquisitors pops up to help the new hero either as a temporary companion we can customize or like a temporary advisor like morrigan. What makes me think inquisitor won't even show up in the games intro is...Dorian. Dorian gives them that holo crystal thing for contact long distance no point in having it if they gonna be playable the next game I think it comes into play when the new hero proves themselves capable to deal with solas and when solas makes his move then Dorian calls the inquisitor basically being the varric to hawke situation and inquisitor plays whatever role best fits the story. But being that romance plays a big part in the series as well as new protagonist and there new team don't expect the inquisitor outside of when its time to deal with solas they have no business in the other plots. I also expect solas to continue to be involved in the anderfels plot only if old gods have a connection with the dalish pantheon.

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"yes" is currently 12 votes ahead of "no", for those who are interested. They never seem to have much of a distance between them



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I'd prefer a dual protag, with the Inquisitor concentrating on Solas and the new protag doing other things that relate but aren't as personal. I firmly believe that since the Inq has a personal stake in the Solas story - he's either a nemesis, a friend or a lover - they need to be the one to confront him. I can get behind a new protag, as long as we get to take control of our Quiz for that confrontation. It really won't make sense for Bioware to have set up this relationship with the antagonist only for someone who doesn't know him to be the one who gets the big end convo/boss fight.

 

Since that isn't an option on the poll, I voted to play the Inquisitor again :)


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I'd prefer a dual protag, with the Inquisitor concentrating on Solas and the new protag doing other things that relate but aren't as personal. I firmly believe that since the Inq has a personal stake in the Solas story - he's either a nemesis, a friend or a lover - they need to be the one to confront him. I can get behind a new protag, as long as we get to take control of our Quiz for that confrontation. It really won't make sense for Bioware to have set up this relationship with the antagonist only for someone who doesn't know him to be the one who gets the big end convo/boss fight.

 

Since that isn't an option on the poll, I voted to play the Inquisitor again :)

 

Thanks for letting me know. I'll put a little list of how many people have stated an interest in duel protags, just so i've not dismissed it completely.

 

EDIT: I also found this interview where Laidlaw said "Oh, yeah. It’s better to not offer a choice than to trivialise it. Don’t dangle something in front of a player and then have it not matter in the end.", Gives me some hope for a satisfactory end


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The story isn't "done," per se, but their adventuring days are over.  It's not really possible for the Inquisitor to come back in that way.

 

I would love to see the Inquisitor again in a future installment, but mostly as a guiding force, kinda like Duncan in Origins.  The Inquisitor wouldn't be able to fight for obvious reasons, but there is a story to wrap up there, especially for Solasmancers and the redeemers.  So the Inquisitor could easily be used as an advisor role like Cullen, but would be the one guiding the new PC along in a Duncan-ish capacity.



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I voted for "no, their story is done."

We would have never fallen in love with the Inquisitor if Bioware had listened to the people who wanted to keep playing the Warden or Hawke. I want someone new to fall in love with.

And I want a chance to see Thedas from a fresh new perspective again, not be tied down to PCs that have already existed. There are so many cool backgrounds a new protag could have, coming from northern Thedas! *grabby hands*
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I don't think, the players really have a vote, but if Bioware decides against it, I don't think it would stop me from buying DA4. I am a pretty accepting person. The only dealbreaker for me is forced death of the protagonist.

 

Exactly...no ME3.  A breath doesn't cut it for stating that the protagonist is alive.

 

I do like how DA does it.  If they are introducing a new protagonist, allow our old protagonist to live semi happily.



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I have always been all for new protagonists each game. I like making new characters and I like seeing the world from a different perspective each game. Dragon Age has always been about Thedas as a whole, which I personally enjoy, and I feel that it becomes harder to experience it that way if we keep playing as the same character who has gone through their life "one way".

That being said, I do hope that the Inquisitor comes up in the next game in a similar way to Hawke in Inquisition because I do feel that they still have a role to play, though not as the PC.
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Unless they get different VA then my answer is no, no disrespect to the VA tbh was probably the direction they was told to go that i never liked, never did get rid of the feeling my pc was nothing more than a automated message being read out loud

 

BioWare have shown there great at a "funny" pc, but tbh there pretty boring at anything else, a "good" pc turns out to be nothing but boring rubbish an a "ruthless" pc turns out to be nothing but a dick, atleast with a funny pc i get to pish myself at the dialogue

 

Maybe it cause im scottish, who knows, but i never had much time for bring a dick or that other crap thats the "good" option, no matter the scenario there nothing better than staring at it an having a laugh either remembering or at the stupidity of it



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Exactly...no ME3.  A breath doesn't cut it for stating that the protagonist is alive.

 

I do like how DA does it.  If they are introducing a new protagonist, allow our old protagonist to live semi happily.

Thing is, that's not the case for the Inquisitor. There's a guy out there, who the Inquisitor knows pretty well, who is definitely going to try and destroy the world sometime soon. They can't 'live semi happily' while Solas is still plotting whatever. This is particularly true of a romanced Lavellan, who doesn't even get to be with her romantic interest because he's off trying to collapse the veil. 

 

The Warden and Hawke were done. All their Big Bads were dead, their character/romantic arcs concluded (even male HoF got to go with Morrigan in the end). The Inquisitor's story isn't wrapped up yet. It was, until Trespasser, when we got a whole new reason for the Inquisitor to keep going! I just find it hard to believe that Bioware would give us this very powerful antagonist in Solas, with whom the Inquisitor has a definite relationship, then introduce an entirely new character to wrap up that plot :/ It would have been like having Rendon Howe killing the HN's family in Origins, and then never having the Hero see Howe again, and then having Hawke kill him for whatever reason. Needless to say, if the Solas plot isn't being explored in the next game, then fine. New protag. But bring the Inquisitor back when that plotline returns.

 

I'm - kind of -ok with them appearing as an NPC - except a lot of people didn't like how Hawke didn't seem like 'theirs' in DAI, and I'm not sure I'd like a confrontation with Solas wrapped up in a cutscene in which I (the player) have no agency because I'm not in control of my Inquisitor anymore. I'm finding it hard to see how they could do it satisfactorily. I'll still buy DA4 regardless, but I'd find it offputting to have a major character/story arc for Quiz effectively concluded without my input. As an NPC who I could temporarily control though? OK.

 

I've always been fine with the new protag thing - because I've felt that the stories were definitely over - even if not in a way I wanted. But to me it feels like the Inquisitor's story is ongoing.

 

Sorry for the ramble :/


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I don't want that Bioware make something terrible with my Inquisitor in DA4 - so: NO Inquisitor in DA4 please. *frightend*  :(

 

They cut the Inquisitors hand of, have taken the mark and mentally hit him / her. I'm frigthend what they would do to my poor Inquisitor in DA4. :o :o And even if they give you a choice at the end of a game, later they change the destiny of our heros in the next game. So just: Please leave him / her alone, dear Bioware. :ph34r:

 

:(  Bioware is not very kind with OUR heros:

 

DA1 - Missing in action

DA2 - Missing in action

DA3 - Invalid, mark taken away, Inquisition reduced / gone

 

ME1 - 3 Shepard dead



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I voted "Yes", but I'm really more for a dual protagonist option. I'm perfectly fine with getting a new protagonist that I play throughout the majority of the game, dealing with the other big plots and even partway through the continued Solas plot. But if we do get a final confrontation with Solas in DA4, the Inquisitor has to be there, and be instrumental in how it pans out. And it's this, that the Inquisitor should be instrumental in the outcome of a major plot thread, that to me means that she must be playable.

 

You can't just watch the big finale be played out between the villain (Solas) and an NPC (Inquisitor) with you, the PC, just standing there, watching. The player needs to be involved, which means that the player should control the Inquisitor. Actually allowing for full control of the Inquisitor in this instance would also ensure that people won't complain about how they are forced to act, because we get to choose how they act ourselves.


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There's a simple solution to this: the inquisitor fails to stop Solas, so there's no final confrontation for them to be missing from. Sandal's prophecy suggests pretty strongly that Solas is going to succeed.

If a more personal Solas/Inquisitor reunion happens, let it happen mostly offscreen. Some mystery adds spice to life. :)

Look, my canon is probably going to be my Solavellan, and I still want a new protag. I don't think a dual protag would work simply because of the crushing logistical nightmare of having EIGHT VAs voicing large portions of the game. That would be crazy expensive. So given one or the other, I'd want the focus to be on a new, northern Thedas person.

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NO!



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I didn't read the entire thread, but might I suggest that the poll respondents might be making some sort of assumptions about LI availability in their responses?

With 8 LI options, that's a lot of former characters to carry over. Some people would want their Inquisitor to keep the same LI, and others would welcome a new group from which to choose.

I suspect that may be one of the reasons that Bioware might not want to do another game with the same protag.

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I didn't read the entire thread, but might I suggest that the poll respondents might be making some sort of assumptions about LI availability in their responses?

With 8 LI options, that's a lot of former characters to carry over. Some people would want their Inquisitor to keep the same LI, and others would welcome a new group from which to choose.

I suspect that may be one of the reasons that Bioware might not want to do another game with the same protag.

 

Some have stated they don't want the Inquisitor back on account of wanting more LI's, but that's all i remember them saying


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Dual protag doesn't have to mean loads more expensive/logistical nightmare though. The inquisitor's story would be shorter, much more focused, and not really about getting to know new people and romancing them. I could see the old LIs appearing as NPCs and having a few cutscenes (like Cullen/Josie), no new LIs (because let's be honest, you can just change an option in the Keep and do one of the ones already on offer), and a very small companion roster, possibly including things that don't require extensive VA (a mabari or other pet, a golem but not one with loads of personality like Shale).

 

VA would cost, to be sure, but you're sharing the cost between all the main VAs for both main characters, you aren't doubling it. Same word count/session time/budget as DAI but split between more actors.  

 

The new protag could have fewer romances to choose from than DAI (say 4?), but would still satisfy those wanting new romances, maybe six companions overall.

 

To be clear, I'm not talking about a dual protag like in Bound by Flame (where both characters are in your party at the same time doing the same adventure), but more like Broken Sword or (to a lesser extent) the Ciri stuff in Witcher 3, where both characters are pursuing their own questline, with some convergence at different points in the narrative.

 

Edit: I'm not even sure why I'm arguing this so vocally, it isn't as though I actually think it's going to happen, as much as I'd like it to! x :(