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[AllThatJazz]

You don't have to be at the forefront of a fight to be involved in it.

No, but it would be weird and awkward for a new protag to turn up and confront Solas with a letter from his girlfriend ...

 

The arm thing is irrelevant - I don't think it would be a stretch to have a protag with a prosthetic arm, and it would also add some cool gameplay elements (different upgradeable prosthetics, different materials, effects etc). As well as having a protagonist with a disability, which would be something not done often  Also yeah, it's a good way to explain why they're back at level 1 for the next game - had to completely retrain, get used to life with only one arm and using a false limb etc.

 

Not that I'm completely convinced they'll return as a PC, but I do think the Quiz will play a much bigger role in the next game than Hawke did in DAI, even if just as a main NPC. The devs have expressed interest before now in a multi-protagonist game - and I'd personally love a dual protag Dragon Age.

 

Edit: Maybe they'll go the W3 route, playing our new guy most of the time, but switching to the Inquisitor at certain key moments, as happens with Ciri.

[Domiel Angelus]

The Inquisitor says her adventuring days are over (if you choose to keep the Inquisition). It kind of makes sense, if she's an archer, or a dual-dagger build, or a warrior, or a rift mage. But a normal mage? Lightning and fireballs are still there, Knight-Enchanter's sword is still there, she could and would be a badass. Unless the Anchor robbed her of all her magic, I suppose.

 

Cullen could always teach a warrior that badass dueling stance he's using since he's a one-handed sword no shield fighting style. If you're anyone and you took up Sera's offer you get a scene in the epilogue where you have a crossbow mounted on your stump, so being an archer isn't out either you'd just have to use the crossbow with your ranged skills. For dual daggers, sword and shield or two-handed fighters, I sure Dagna, Varric and Bianca could jury rig up a human shaped golem hand to affix below the elbow. 

[Abyss108]

Well to bioware, it means they are now an important NPC even your own character says they need new people to face solas people he does not know because he knows how the inquisitor and his friends will act so they need a unknown person. 

 

We have a new protaganist each game that is what dragon age is about they tried a set protagonist with Hawke it did not work out so now they are keeping with their guns. Let's not forget having the inquisitor running around tevinter and considering they are not really "liked" over there would be like wearing an ambulance siren on your head in solas's eyes. 

 

Hence why the inquisitor needs the help of new people. Deal with it they are not the protagonist anymore shouting at bioware that you want it is not going to change their minds just like the people who want the HOF I state again your character is now an important npc. 

 

They need the help of new people yes, doesn't mean they will sit out of the fighting.

 

You have no evidence Bioware will "stick to their guns" on this, because they haven't made the next game yet. They may or may not bring the Inquisitor back, but I guarantee that decision won't be made based off a statement they made years ago. Plans change. They actually have stated they find the idea of multiple protagonists interesting and they wouldn't rule out bringing characters back for drama. 

 

The hof/hawke had a complete story with an ending. The Inquisitor doesn't. And they didn't have to make the Inquisitor's story not have an ending. It was fine how it was left in the made game. But they specifically made a choice to undo that in Trespasser, which leads me to think they have something planned. This isn't like HoF where maybe they didn't realise how people would react until after the game was out.

 

Also, nobody is "shouting" at Bioware, we are posting our opinions on what we would like for the next game. It's up to Bioware whether to listen to them or not.

[Bigdoser]

Well get ready to be disappointed if you can't believe your own characters words I can't convince you. Just going to have to see it for yourself its highly likey the inquisitor is getting reduced the major supporting npc at most. 

 

Personally I don't want multiple protagonist because they won't be able to do it. They should focus on the new one or then its highly likely we are going to get people going oooh man the new PC is sooo boring. 

 

I mean this is what was happening to the inquisitor before trespasser came out so I prefer bioware not to do the multiple protagonist route and focus on one character and build upon the interaction they have with the other npcs. 

[zeypher]

Makes sense. Though there shouldn't be any issue with EA's approval, the game was more successful than they might've anticipated. Also, judging by the fact there are already two games in development it could well be 3-4 years before the next game is launched. Maybe they'll announce something on E3 next year. Let's hope.

They say that but so far they have not released concrete numbers to how well inquisition did. That is worrying.

[Bigdoser]

They say that but so far they have not released concrete numbers to how well inquisition did. That is worrying.

I blame the open world honestly I know many people who have to finished the game due to the open world being well... boring. Honestly I think we have to wait for the new mass effect before we get any info on that. 

 

Now on topic; Major npc that's what I think the inquisitor is going to be or we may communicate with them through Dorian's little crystal or something. 

[Smudjygirl]

Well get ready to be disappointed if you can't believe your own characters words I can't convince you. Just going to have to see it for yourself its highly likey the inquisitor is getting reduced the major supporting npc at most. 

 

Personally I don't want multiple protagonist because they won't be able to do it. They should focus on the new one or then its highly likely we are going to get people going oooh man the new PC is sooo boring. 

 

I mean this is what was happening to the inquisitor before trespasser came out so I prefer bioware not to do the multiple protagonist route and focus on one character and build upon the interaction they have with the other npcs. 

 

The Inquisitor doesn't always declare their adventuring days to be done. They can also state they are "off to save the world again". Those give different effects, rather than them being the same thing worded differently. People have interpreted that differently and we must wait on the powers that be to state their intentions. None of us know for sure what they are doing

[Bigdoser]

The Inquisitor doesn't always declare their adventuring days to be done. They can also state they are "off to save the world again". Those give different effects, rather than them being the same thing worded differently. People have interpreted that differently and we must wait on the powers that be to state their intentions. None of us know for sure what they are doing

I am not talking about that scene I am talking about the end one and you have no control over that.  Leliana pretty much lists that the inquisition is effectively useless at facing solas and then the the inquisitor responds "Then we need people he does not know". Then stabs tevinter to me that seems that you will be aiding the new protagonist. Since if the inquisitor starts poking around tevinter it would set off so many alarm bells to solas he would go to ground incredibly quickly. 

 

If you disband they note you have what you already need to aid in stopping solas or if you kept the infrastructure you can least "respond" if he pops his bald head up somewhere. 

 

Good luck finding him because he knows how leliana spy system works heck I even bet he is better at it since at the end of the main game Leliana could find or track him, he pretty much vanished. 

[Smudjygirl]

I am not talking about that scene I am talking about the end one and you have no control over that.  Leliana pretty much lists that the inquisition is effectively useless at facing solas and then the the inquisitor responds "Then we need people he does not know". Then stabs tevinter to me that seems that you will be aiding the new protagonist. Since if the inquisitor starts poking around tevinter it would set off so many alarm bells to solas he would go to ground incredibly quickly. 

 

If you disband they note you have what you already need to aid in stopping solas or if you kept the infrastructure you can least "respond" if he pops his bald head up somewhere. 

 

Good luck finding him because he knows how leliana spy system works heck I even bet he is better at it since at the end of the main game Leliana could find or track him, he pretty much vanished. 

 

"He knows you" is also a poor rebuff in the sense he constantly says to a friendly Inquisitor that he can't guess at their actions.

 

I get that. And it sort of works a little. But at the end of the day, from a story point of view, Solas needs to be stopped by the Inquisitor of he should have not been able to bond with them as much as he did. If that were so, anyone could have stopped him with the same effect.Love him or hate him, it will be a missed opportunity to let that story be pushed to the side for the next Tom, Dick or Harry to intervene. Look up pretty much any writing source and they will tell you that will make your plot significantly weaker.

 

Also, as others have said, that list is a good excuse to start at a low level

[Navasha]

Just too many issues, imo, for keeping the inquisitor as the next protagonist.    My guess is the inquisitor will be the next war table advisor that grooms the younger hero type to take up the reins in the fight.   The Inq. could still show up at the final confrontation then if need be easy enough.

[Samahl na Revas]

How many voice actors will be needed to keep the Inquisitor and a new MC? Too many I think. Now if he just sends scout Harding while he does what he does through text, that could work. Only Bioware knows. I'm dreading going over to ME:A forum. Nothing good over there so far.

[vertigomez]

There is 0 chance the Inquisitor is the protagonist. Aside from the Inquisition being dismantled or co-opted, the ending literally cripples the character. The last dialogue - about finding people the Dread Wolf doesn't know - is just really on the nose about new protagonists.

This, pretty please.

I don't want a Shepquisitor.

[daveliam]

How many voice actors will be needed to keep the Inquisitor and a new MC? Too many I think. Now if he just sends scout Harding while he does what he does through text, that could work. Only Bioware knows. I'm dreading going over to ME:A forum. Nothing good over there so far.

 

I think this is a really good point.  Sometimes, stories need to get changed because of practical limitations for production.  I just don't see how they are going to be able to include the Inquisitor and a new PC, when that means that there would have to be a minimum of 6 VAs for just two characters (not to mention extra animations to account for 4 potential Inquisitor races).  That's a real limitation to deal with.  Combine that with the fact that they've stated numerous times that returning PCs aren't likely to be a thing in DA, the backlash they faced with Hawke potentially being completely out of character, and the fact that they specifically mentioned that they need unknown forces to confront Solas in Tevinter and it all seems to set up a story where the Inquisitor is pulling the strings remotely, but acting through an agent (Harding?) in Tevinter.  Maybe a cameo appearance or two, but nothing major.  I can understand why people want the Inquisitor (particularly a Dalish Inquisitor romancing Solas) to be the one to confront him, but we don't even know if the next PC is going to confront him.  For all we know, we're dealing with a specific threat in Tevinter (elven slave uprising?) with Solas pulling the strings remotely and the 'big bad' being an agent of Fen'harel (like Samson/Calpernia style).  I think there are too many variables to know for sure, but I think it's looking very unlikely that the Inquisitor will be back as PC.   And, frankly, that makes me happy.

[Thumb Fu]

That goes against everything that Mike Laidlaw and the other devs have said since the series started. DA is "about a time and a place, not a person." The Inquisitor is lame. Time to move on.

Hah, strong words. I love my Inquisitor, and would very much like to see them again. But i have to agree, everything i have seen in game, and heard from the devs in interviews about Trespasser is that this is the end of us playing the Inquisitor, time to look forward to see who will be the next savior of Thedas.

[Ieldra]

There is 0 chance the Inquisitor is the protagonist. Aside from the Inquisition being dismantled or co-opted, the ending literally cripples the character. The last dialogue - about finding people the Dread Wolf doesn't know - is just really on the nose about new protagonists.

It seems that way. Hopefully they won't changed their minds.

[Fearsome1]

Inquisitor is likely to get a cameo appearance in DA4, but I doubt he will be anything more.

 

I suspect that this is the case as well, with our Inquisitor voice actors recording a similar amount of lines as Hawke had during this game. Maybe more depending if the Inquisitor takes on an advisory type position for the next game.

[Fiery Phoenix]

They've maintained time and again that each major installment in the series will feature its own protagonist, per their own vision of the DA franchise. I'm not really understanding why some are still casting doubt on that by this point.

[Avejajed]

They could go dual protag which would be interesting and open lots of doors for narrative.

 

I think this is mostly what I'd like to see. If the Inquisitor comes back (Which she will, zero doubt in my opinion) I'd like to have some form of control over her and her responses- and I'd like to be the one to directly deal with Solas. I think that's really my only desire. I'm not going to have someone else confront/defeat/save him, it's got to be the Inquisitor and I've got to be the one who does it.

[midnight tea]

You don't have to be at the forefront of a fight to be involved in it.

 

That's the thing - Inquisitor has pretty much vowed to be at the forefront of the battle. Hence personal promise to either kill or help Solas change his mind.

[KaiserShep]

They've maintained time and again that each major installment in the series will feature its own protagonist, per their own vision of the DA franchise. I'm not really understanding why some are still casting doubt on that by this point.

Well, there's always room for doubt, and aside from that, I suspect that BioWare can be a bit flexible on this, depending on the story they want to tell. Not to say that I absolutely want it one way or the other, but I would never discount the possibility, especially if it's a character that is guaranteed to live in the end.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

People said the same thing after DAO. "Oh, Witch Hunt ended with so many questions and the Warden said he's going to fight! I bet he's coming back".

After DA2, "Hawke never got a proper ending and conclusion. He's so going to be the main character for DA3!".

 

And now the Inquisitor is going to be the new edition.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That goes against everything that Mike Laidlaw and the other devs have said since the series started. DA is "about a time and a place, not a person."

Yes, because Bioware has never lied or changed their minds before. 

 

Plus you can use the same protagonist and still have the series be about a time and place. 

[Rekkampum]

No, but it would be weird and awkward for a new protag to turn up and confront Solas with a letter from his girlfriend ...

 

The arm thing is irrelevant - I don't think it would be a stretch to have a protag with a prosthetic arm, and it would also add some cool gameplay elements (different upgradeable prosthetics, different materials, effects etc). As well as having a protagonist with a disability, which would be something not done often  Also yeah, it's a good way to explain why they're back at level 1 for the next game - had to completely retrain, get used to life with only one arm and using a false limb etc.

 

Not that I'm completely convinced they'll return as a PC, but I do think the Quiz will play a much bigger role in the next game than Hawke did in DAI, even if just as a main NPC. The devs have expressed interest before now in a multi-protagonist game - and I'd personally love a dual protag Dragon Age.

 

Edit: Maybe they'll go the W3 route, playing our new guy most of the time, but switching to the Inquisitor at certain key moments, as happens with Ciri.

 

That comes with the assumption that every Inquisitor romanced Solas, which isn't true. We also aren't up to speed on how Bioware is going to handle the plot, let alone the conflict and what Solas even plans on doing yet. Don't misunderstand me; I think it's obvious and incumbent on the writers to follow through with the premise they've set up, because unlike the HoF and Hawke, the Inquisitor's story clearly hasn't been resolved per the events of Trespasser. So I think they'll still have a fairly influential role, but as a person who is also disabled - severe Meniere's Disease and Temporal Lobe Epilepsy - I've had live with the fact that many writers still use disabilities as plot devices, and as the sentiments of some of the commenters here have shown, that one setback is almost always accepted as a reflection on the person without question, lore be damned. That seems to be the case here with the Inquisitor, until they confirm otherwise. I'd like to see a disabled protagonist, but I don't think that's in their interest as far as this plot is concerned.

[midnight tea]

Just too many issues, imo, for keeping the inquisitor as the next protagonist.    My guess is the inquisitor will be the next war table advisor that grooms the younger hero type to take up the reins in the fight.   The Inq. could still show up at the final confrontation then if need be easy enough.

 

Considering how they seem to have set up both Inquisition and Trespasser there are quite a few issues starting with a new protagonist as well - there would have to be a lot of "catching up" the new protag would have to do, be it when it comes to Solas, Inquisition, elves or even Qunari invasion.

 

With Inquisitor being deeply involved - even as a secondary/supporting PC - it's possible to actually create a tighter story that is (well, it has to be) relevant and deeply connected to events from previous game - because it's rather obvious that even if Quizzy may not be returning as the main protagonist, the next DA title will more closely follow the story and plot points we see established in the Inquisition, compared to DAII or DAO.