Solas intends to bring back the world of his people. He says that the elves of Thedas are not his people. Who will live in his restored world? Where are his people, and where have they been for the millenia that he had been sleeping? I got the impression that they had all died when he created the Fade, or as they became mortal.
I haven't read any of the companion books on lore and story.
I hope someone here can answer this. Thank you.
The temple smug guys with the long faces who keep reminding you how lame you are.
Solas intends to bring back the world of his people. He says that the elves of Thedas are not his people. Who will live in his restored world? Where are his people, and where have they been for the millenia that he had been sleeping? I got the impression that they had all died when he created the Fade, or as they became mortal.
I haven't read any of the companion books on lore and story.
I hope someone here can answer this. Thank you.
Yeah, when it became clear that Solas didn't consider modern elves his people, I kinda took the "Frak you too, dude" option. Which is why Solas isn't worth redeeming to me.
Gonna put an arrow straight through his head in DA4.
Yeah, when it became clear that Solas didn't consider modern elves his people, I kinda took the "Frak you too, dude." Which is why Solas isn't worth redeeming to me.
Gonna put an arrow straight through his head in DA4.
It's a bit sad, the Dalish are in the state they are in because he cut "his people" off from veil, removing their immortality.. Then over the years they are persecuted and stripped of their culture, and their past is lost to them and they do their best to learn of it. Yet here is Solas all pissed that they know nothing, or that they didn't just take the word of some stranger that everything they know is wrong.
Yeah, when it became clear that Solas didn't consider modern elves his people, I kinda took the "Frak you too, dude." Which is why Solas isn't worth redeeming to me.
Gonna put an arrow straight through his head in DA4.
He has tried to teach the Dalish, though they were unwilling to listen.
My Dalish Inquisitor was all ears from the beginning ("We are of the same people, Solas") and he was only ever withholding of knowledge and the truth - until he wanted to tell her what was wrong with her face then run away, taking his truth with him, that is.
While Solas makes the distinction between ancient and modern elves, he isn't an ******* like Abelas.
He has tried to teach the Dalish, though they were unwilling to listen.
He's also shown empathy for the city elves, asking you what good would it do an empoverished (elven) man to hear that his ancestors lived like gods.
Solas even tries to help SERA get in touch with her elven side, though she couldn't care less.
Would you take the word of some stranger telling you that everything you know is wrong? How much effort did he put into convincing the Dalish? Did he visit one clan? All of them? Or did he get pissy like he does the second you don't tell him what he wants?
My Dalish Inquisitor was all ears from the beginning ("We are of the same people, Solas") and he was only ever withholding of knowledge and the truth - until he wanted to tell her what was wrong with her face then run away, taking his truth with him, that is.
Would you take the word of some stranger telling you that everything you know is wrong? How much effort did he put into convincing the Dalish? Did he visit one clan? All of them? Or did he get pissy like he does the second you don't tell him what he wants?
While Solas makes the distinction between ancient and modern elves, he isn't an ******* like Abelas.
He has tried to teach the Dalish, though they were unwilling to listen.
He's also shown empathy for the city elves, asking you what good would it do an empoverished (elven) man to hear that his ancestors lived like gods.
Solas even tries to help SERA get in touch with her elven side, though she couldn't care less.
I concede to all those points. At the end of the day though, Solas is making a choice for the entire world. It is almost reminding me of the backlash many people had of Shepard making the choice for the entire galaxy at the end of ME3. The only difference here is that you're not Shepard in this case, you are part of the rest of the galaxy. If someone told you he or she was going to make a decision such as making us all half-synthetic or allowing our extinction to give the next cycle a chance and that you have no say in that matter, you would fight that. Anyone would.
The fate of the ancient elves is tragic, and the details of what led to that fate make it even more so. I really do get where Solas is coming from, especially being one who usually plays as an elf. I'm big on elf empowerment and all that. The truth of the matter though is that everything that has happened is Solas' own fault, he admits as much when you speak to him. But what Solas sees as correcting that mistake, instead of uplifiting the elves like all my PCs have been doing since Origins, is committing genocide on a global scale. Everyone - every living elf, human, dwarf, qunari - will die so Solas can feel better about himself. There is no redeeming someone like that, despite his "good" intentions. He wants to kill us all, and everything we have ever done in the Dragon Age universe. That cannot stand, no matter how sympathetic I am to the elves.
Some people tend to theorize that Solas wants to use time-magic to literally go back to the old days. I'm not convinced, but..
I concede to all those points. At the end of the day though, Solas is making a choice for the entire world. It is almost reminding me of the backlash many people had of Shepard making the choice for the entire galaxy at the end of ME3. The only difference here is that you're not Shepard in this case, you are part of the rest of the galaxy.
The fate of the ancient elves is tragic, and the details of what led to that fate make it even more so. I really do get where Solas is coming from though, especially being one who usually plays as an elf. I'm big on elf empowerment and all that. The truth of the matter though is that everything that has happened is Solas' own fault, he admits as much when you speak to him. But what Solas sees as correcting that mistake, instead of uplifiting the elves like all my PCs have been doing since Origins, is committing genocide on a global scale. Everyone - every living elf, human, dwarf, qunari - will die so Solas can feel better about himself. There is no redeeming someone like that, despite his "good" intentions. He wants to kill us all, and everything we have ever done in the Dragon Age universe. That cannot stand, no matter how sympathetic I am to the elves.
It makes me wonder why Solas was an elf-only romance when elves are basically shemlen to him.
It makes me wonder why Solas was an elf-only romance when elves are basically shemlen to him.
It must've been the glowing hand. It is elvhen magic. His magic.
Pointy ears and boobs are just a bonus.
Some people tend to theorize that Solas wants to use time-magic to literally go back to the old days. I'm not convinced, but..
If he can use time magic then why he bother to tear down the veil in the first place?
It makes me wonder why Solas was an elf-only romance when elves are basically shemlen to him.
If the only romance options around you are all aliens, you will probably chose to date those who looks like human, or at least as close to human as possible.
Plus, from the outlook, there's basically no difference between ancient elves and now-a-day elves.
It makes me wonder why Solas was an elf-only romance when elves are basically shemlen to him.
Some people tend to theorize that Solas wants to use time-magic to literally go back to the old days. I'm not convinced, but..
I hope not. That never works out well. Marvel and DC messed both their universes up so badly when they began doing all that. It's hard to write a story like that really well and catching all the small details that need to be correct.
I hope not. That never works out well. Marvel and DC messed both their universes up so badly when they began doing all that. It's hard to write a story like that really well and catching all the small details that need to be correct.
I also hope not.
Like I said- I'm not convinved. I think his plan is interesting, but hopefully we don't have to go through all that again.
Travelling back in time to the era of the ancient elves would be impossible. TIme travel in DAI was only possible within the timeline of the Breach. Even if he sundered the Veil again, he wouldn't be able to go beyond the moment he sundered the Veil.
His People are the elves like Abelas, who quite categorically tells you that you, if a Dalish, are not one of them, yet seems to recognise Solas as one of his own. For all we know may be he did at least recognise Solas as an agent of Fen'Harel if not the Dread Wolf himself because of the lack of Vallaslin.
Solas may have been reaching out to the Dalish and Sera or it could just have been another instance of him trying to assuage his conscience because of what he intends to do.
After all the original plan was to get Cory to unlock his orb and then when he had been blown to pieces, walk in and use it to destroy the Veil. Then when he found Cory hadn't died but had possessed the orb for himself, he decided to help the only person who seemed to have a chance of stopping Cory and getting his orb back for him. Presumably if it hadn't shattered in that final battle, he'd had recovered it and then used it pretty soon after to destroy the Veil, in which case the world would already be a wreck. Now he feels that he is doing us a kindness by giving as a temporary reprieve in relative peace before pulling the plug.
He makes it quite clear to a Dalish Inquisitor, whether romanced or not, that he is saving their life in removing their arm but ultimately they will die, not from the mark but through his actions. It sounds ambiguous if you are on good terms with him but check out You Tube for what he says if you are hostile from the beginning and he is much more explicit.
Unfortunately I think the modern elves are being suckered by him into doing whatever needs doing to achieve his aims without realising the implications for themselves. The Dalish have always hated humans for destroying their empire. I'd like to think that when they hear the story that Fen'Harel really did banish their gods, as they have always believed, but in doing so it was he who destroyed everything and made them mortal, that they would transfer that hatred to him. Trouble is I doubt they are going to get the truth from the Dread Wolf or his agents. As for the City elves, I suppose in a way they feel they have nothing to lose but again I doubt they have been given the full picture.
I'm hoping that in the next game, one of the options will be to keep the city elves out of the hands of both Fen'Harel and the Qunari. As for the Dalish, if the Inquisitor is Dalish then I would hope that some at least would listen to them but since PW, who is now lead writer, made the Dalish clan in Masked Empire seem such a pathetic, bigoted bunch, for whom hardly anyone seems to have had any sympathy, I fear the Dalish may be sacrificed by having them rush into the arms of the Dread Wolf.
Yeah, when it became clear that Solas didn't consider modern elves his people, I kinda took the "Frak you too, dude" option. Which is why Solas isn't worth redeeming to me.
Gonna put an arrow straight through his head in DA4.
maybe they'll become the elf version of the Order of the Fiery Promise 
Who knows. The point is, he does care.
He only cares inasmuch as he would rather see them die in comfort than in pain.
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