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Now it's the time, Yavana as DA4 companion, please!


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I know the first thing many will say is: "she can be dead"; hold on, do not shoot but listen:

She is not few years older than Morrigan, for what we know she is at least 400 years old, unlike the sentinels or the Sha-Brytol, she's been guarding the Silent Grove by her own, her task itself grants her more hostile visitors than her mother or her sister may have, she also got out of the swamp to fight the Qunari on the city during the invasion, after all these risky situations, she has to have a backup plan, she couldn't be sure she would win on every fight, she also granted immortality to Xenon and she is the only character we've seen performing actual necromancy, so she clearly has the power to dodge the death, would be enough with jumping to her Dragon's body, I think they are bound.

On every game we have a smarty on the party, now that we are going against Solas, we would need someone that could represent a challenge for him, Yavana has more power and knowledge than her sister but Solas has even more, so, she would be handy, but balanced enough to not represent a flawless victory.

I think she deserves a chance, she was just wiped out too fast on the half of a serie of comics that are short for any comic standards, she has the means to come back without being illogical, and Antiva is not far from Tevinter after all, and I really really miss the shapeshifter spec, she would be the perfect excuse to bring it back.
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Oh, yes. I'm behind this. It would mean another dark magic lady as companion, and probably a new perspective on Flemeth. Gimme. 


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In general, I like the idea of another daughter of Flemeth.  But how dead is dead?  I never read the comics.  Is she 'dead dead' (like we see her dead body like Leliana)?  Or is she 'kind of dead' (where she just goes missing and we assume she's dead like Morrigan)?  It makes a difference for me.  I'm cool with the latter; not so much with the former.



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In general, I like the idea of another daughter of Flemeth. But how dead is dead? I never read the comics. Is she 'dead dead' (like we see her dead body like Leliana)? Or is she 'kind of dead' (where she just goes missing and we assume she's dead like Morrigan)? It makes a difference for me. I'm cool with the latter; not so much with the former.

She was impaled (betrayed) by Alistair, then she falls dead but there is some strange white fog rising from her body, the Dragon grows rampage and pounces on Alistair but instead of crushing him, she just stands at Yavana's side, smelling her and inhalating the fog. (So it would be some kind of body jump, like what Flemeth and Corypheus do, not her head just grown again like Leliana)

The Great Dragons need Therin's blood to awake, but they also need a ritual, for what I understood, Yavana's Dragon was a Great Dragon, and was adressed as the Queen of Dragons by Yavana since she needed the ritual to awake her fellows and since she only had Yavana to do so, if she would be hopeless to awake them, she would crush Alistair anyway, and WoT2 states that it is uncertain if someone like Yavana can be so easily killed
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She was impaled (betrayed) by Alistair, then she falls dead but there is some strange white fog rising from her body, the Dragon grows rampage and pounces on Alistair but instead of crushing him, she just stands at Yavana's side, smelling her and inhalating the fog. (So it would be some kind of body jump, like what Flemeth and Corypheus do, not her head just grown again like Leliana)

The Great Dragons need Therin's blood to awake, but they also need a ritual, for what I understood, Yavana's Dragon was a Great Dragon, and was adressed as the Queen of Dragons by Yavana since she needed the ritual to awake her fellows and since she only had Yavana to do so, if she would be hopeless to awake them, she would crush Alistair anyway, and WoT2 states that it is uncertain if someone like Yavana can be so easily killed

 

Well that certainly sounds like they might have been setting themselves up to allow her to come back.  It's certainly vague. 

 

If she did come back, I'd rather her not come back in DA4 if we are going to Tevinter.  There are already going to be enough mages in Tevinter and Seheron to represent different view points.  I'd rather see her come back when we go to Antiva (and Rivain?) in the future.  She can play a more significant role there, I suspect.


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I think this would be kind of neat. 

It could give a whole new perspective on the whole Flemeth arc.

 

I think Morrigan will pop up in DA4, so it'd be interesting to see them interact as well.


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Well that certainly sounds like they might have been setting themselves up to allow her to come back.  It's certainly vague. 
 
If she did come back, I'd rather her not come back in DA4 if we are going to Tevinter.  There are already going to be enough mages in Tevinter and Seheron to represent different view points.  I'd rather see her come back when we go to Antiva (and Rivain?) in the future.  She can play a more significant role there, I suspect.


Well, Antiva and Nevarra have borders with Tevinter, and I feel would be kind of bored have only Magisters and Saarebas as mage companions, and they have no idea of how to kill a God.

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I think this would be kind of neat. 
It could give a whole new perspective on the whole Flemeth arc.
 
I think Morrigan will pop up in DA4, so it'd be interesting to see them interact as well.


Shocking Morrigan it's always fun, just imagine her face when she finds out that she has a sister and she is not possessed, then imagine her face if Yavana tells her how she misunderstood such a gift with a possession.

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Well, Antiva and Nevarra have borders with Tevinter, and I feel would be kind of bored have only Magisters and Saarebas as mage companions, and they have no idea of how to kill a God.

 

There's so much more that they can do with companions in Tevinter, outside of magister and saarebas.  I'd like to see both conservative and reform-oriented magisters, a battlemage, dwarven ambassadoria, elven slaves, viddathari, antaam, tal-vashoth, fog warriors, fog dancers, a fex, etc.  They don't need to be limited to just mages and Vints/Qunari.  And they can do all of that without venturing outside of Tevinter and Seheron.


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There's so much more that they can do with companions in Tevinter, outside of magister and saarebas. I'd like to see both conservative and reform-oriented magisters, a battlemage, dwarven ambassadoria, elven slaves, viddathari, antaam, tal-vashoth, fog warriors, fog dancers, a fex, etc. They don't need to be limited to just mages and Vints/Qunari. And they can do all of that without venturing outside of Tevinter and Seheron.


I know, however, on every game (even on DA2) we have a foreign on the party, Zevran was Antivan, Fenris and Dorian were Tevinters, I see no problem with her or with that desirable Nevarran Dragon Hunter, speaking of that, those two would have an interesting party banter.

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I wouldn't mind having her as a companion. She was intriguing and deserved more time in the comics. She will be a useful insight into Flemeth and Morrigan's backstories and her design is pretty damn cool. IF Bioware decides to make her a companion, I really hope they also bring back the Shapeshifting mage specialization along with her.

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Yup, I don't think she could have any other spec, necromancer perhaps but since Dorian seems to be the returning companion in turn, he likely would be necromancer again, also, she loves Dragons, so, perhaps they could change the bear or the spider for a gorgeous Wyvern.

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One has to wonder if the way she's dressed here will fly with portions of the audience.


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One has to wonder if the way she's dressed here will fly with portions of the audience.

 

In our new PC-centric world? probably not. 


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One has to wonder if the way she's dressed here will fly with portions of the audience.

 

Is that a real question? Admittedly, she appears to go to the same clothing outlet that Isabella frequents.

 

At any rate, she would make an excellent companion character. She's in the neighborhood of DA4, she knows enough about the machinations of Flemeth/Mythal to jump right into the plot and she's already a well-formed concept as opposed to having to come up with a new character.

 

If they were willing to dredge Cole from his little storyline I think Yavana would be a no brainer. Sure the devs could just leave her for dead but when has that ever stopped them before when they wanted to do something else? She is a Necromancer and the Simulacrum from their ability tree shows that they have ways around immediate death. As if being a daughter of Flemeth, a woman who survived the centuries and instantly resurrected herself on an altar in DA2, did not already grant sufficient leeway to invent her own return. 


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I wouldn't mind her as a major npc to continue the flemeth story arc but overall Idk about a witch of the wilds companion again. I like having different companions each game that provides something different for storytelling not saying her story is like morrigan's because its not but another daughter of flemeth could take a backseat to a more interesting mage companion. But I would not be upset if she was. I just doubt they gonna add so many comicbook characters as companions but I want at least one no more then two. I already predict Mae will be a companion due to more insight on her and I can not see both mages joining the party but being in the same game yes.



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Mae certainly will play a major role in the game, I'm just not sure if she is gonna play it as a companion since Dorian has the word "companion" written on all his face and I doubt we'll be allowed to have the both main leaders of the Lucerni in our party.

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I really doubt that Dorian is going to be a returning companion.  I think he'll be a major NPC, but I don't see them adding him in as companion again.  I suspect the 'returning' character will be Harding.  And I do think we'll get Mae as a companion.  She's a dev favorite and an insider in Tevinter.  She'll add more as a companion than Dorian will.  

 

If they do decide to bring Havana back, I really do think we'll see her whenever we go to Antiva.  Morrigan's story has come to a natural closing point now, so I could easily see them skipping over the Flemeth aspect of the plot in DA4 and then hitting us with the return of Flemeth or Flemeth's Daughters in DA5, with a plotline around dragons (especially if there's a Nevarran aspect) and/or Mythal.  Kind of like how they skipped Morrigan in DA2, but brought the story back in DAI.


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One has to wonder if the way she's dressed here will fly with portions of the audience.

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I really doubt that Dorian is going to be a returning companion.  I think he'll be a major NPC, but I don't see them adding him in as companion again.  I suspect the 'returning' character will be Harding.  And I do think we'll get Mae as a companion.  She's a dev favorite and an insider in Tevinter.  She'll add more as a companion than Dorian will.  

 

If they do decide to bring Havana back, I really do think we'll see her whenever we go to Antiva.  Morrigan's story has come to a natural closing point now, so I could easily see them skipping over the Flemeth aspect of the plot in DA4 and then hitting us with the return of Flemeth or Flemeth's Daughters in DA5, with a plotline around dragons (especially if there's a Nevarran aspect) and/or Mythal.  Kind of like how they skipped Morrigan in DA2, but brought the story back in DAI.

Who is Mae? I'm sorry, but never read the comics or books... read the plot and synopsis of them, but I don't recall that name



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Who is Mae? I'm sorry, but never read the comics or books... read the plot and synopsis of them, but I don't recall that name

 

Maevaris Tilani.  She's a Magister who is working towards reform efforts in the Magisterium.  She was in the comics as an ally of Alistair, Varric, and Isabela.  She's Varric's cousin's widow (which, I believe makes her the first confirmed non-dwarf in a marriage with a dwarf in the setting).  She's also revealed, in a subtle way, to be a transwoman.  She shows up in Dorian's War Table quest series.  She's the Magister friend of his who he's trying to help. 

 

Gaider designed her based, partially, on Mae West.  Several of the dev's has talked about how she's one of their favorite characters.  In fact, Gaider specifically mentioned that he really wanted her to play a larger role in DA: I, but they were too far into development by the time that she was created for the comics.  All of this is why people really expect her to play a fairly major role in the upcoming game.

 

http://dragonage.wik...Maevaris_Tilani


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RE Yavana's fate - worth noting that she's dead in Bioware's canon - ie, whatever it is that Gaider ran with when writing those comics, so Alistair is alone on the throne, I guess there's a dead dalish HoF, and so forth, which (hopefully, presumably, etc) has no bearing on anything in any games, past or future. So that's certainly no impediment to having her appear.



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RE Yavana's fate - worth noting that she's dead in Bioware's canon - ie, whatever it is that Gaider ran with when writing those comics, so Alistair is alone on the throne, I guess there's a dead dalish HoF, and so forth, which (hopefully, presumably, etc) has no bearing on anything in any games, past or future. So that's certainly no impediment to having her appear.


Hope you are right, Gaider was the sole dude writing the comics after all, so hopefully some other writer would disagree with his decision to wipe her out that fast, such a waste if she does not come back.

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One has to wonder if the way she's dressed here will fly with portions of the audience.

She should come dressed like that.