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#1
PillarBiter

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Just. Do it.

 

There's plenty of development time to go. Don't say you weren't made aware of this. It's a fan request for longtime. It's the bee's knees.

 

Go get programming. Get programming Nao! 

 

 

Thank you kindly :) And be sure to take all the time you need to make this game as awesome as possible! ;)


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What?

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That's not liquor, it's coolant. Cuz that suit is hawt, boy.


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PillarBiter

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What?

 


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Hanako Ikezawa

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That's not liquor, it's coolant. Cuz that suit is hawt, boy.

I hope that armor comes with us to Andromeda. Maybe even be customizable. 


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Something like PillarBiter posted? Hmm, those can be quite cool looking, but not mandatory for me. In other hand I'd like more helmets where I can see my characters face. I like to use helmets in ME for immersion, but I also want to see my characters facial expressions. So something like this again thanks:

 

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Normal N7 helmet would be nice too, not the breather one, since that covers too much. And the different visors are nice for some glasses like Infiltrator.

 

However I don't mind helmets animations, they are cool, but if we have those can we have gun animations like this as well?

 

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I hate collapsible helmets, and I'm going to let Ben "Yahtzee" Crowshaw explain why.

 

But I don't want to spend this whole column reiterating points the video made. There's one other point I want to make that was way too petty for prime time but if I don't get it off my chest it's going to drive me spare. I am really, really bothered by all these fold-out helmets sci-fi characters have nowadays.
 
You know what I mean. It's in Dead Space 2 and it was in Vanquish, as well as the Iron Man 2 movie and a couple of others. It's when you have a helmet or piece of complex armour that starts off packed away in an incredibly small mass behind your head or somewhere and then automatically folds out section by section to completely cover the head or body. Every time I see it, it bothers me because I simply cannot be convinced that this is a more efficient alternative, in any practical or monetary sense, to simply lifting your helmet on and off and holding it under your arm. Maybe you could argue that a rich wanker might have it but not on a mass-produced uniform like Isaac's presumably developed by the lowest bidder.
 
Firstly, the helmet isn't gaining or losing any mass, it's all folded up. And forgive me if you were already au fait with these matters, but a helmet is protective gear. It's supposed to be heavy and bulky and strong to soak up heavy impacts. It's going to be none of those things if it's made of material thin enough to easily fold away like that. And even if you have successfully developed some kind of superdense Adamantium that still offers full protection even if it's one millimetre thick, when its folded up its entire mass is going to be hanging off the back of your neck, and you can't tell me that's going to be good for your posture.
 
But even if your Adamantium is also supernaturally light, when you make a helmet fold away like that, you're adding fifteen million gaps, flaps, hinges and points of articulation that all create weak points in the structure, I'm not convinced the entire thing wouldn't shatter into eyeball-bursting shards after one sturdy bop on the bonce. And this is assuming all those moving parts don't **** up by themselves. I have a fold-out umbrella that's supposed to open out to full size at the touch of a button, and that needs a good shake now and then. It doesn't have anywhere near the number of moving parts these helmets have. I don't care how close to the technological singularity your future setting is: one of those flaps is going to stop working at some point. In Dead Space 2, you even go out into space with this helmet on. It's actually relied upon to create an airtight seal, you'd better make ****** sure you've gone over all those bits and pieces with WD-40 before you press the open airlock button, matey. And what if your helmet is slightly too small and you've got sticky-out ears, are they just going to get sliced off?
 
To top it all, there is only one obvious benefit to this technology to counterbalance all these possible issues: you can have both hands free when you don't have your helmet on. But the only reason you wouldn't have your helmet on is if you're not on the job. And if you're not on the job, you don't need both your hands. QED.
 
Yeah, I know, this was the most consequential rant I've ever done, but I'm sorry, these helmets have started really taking me out of the story. Next week: why the ability to carry fifteen two-handed guns at once makes Half-Life the worst game ever made.

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Fold up helmets are a cop out. I wouldn't say no to a lifting face-plate though, or just rigidly having helmets on in some scenes and not on in others.



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Former_Fiend

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Yeah, I'm fine with the lifting face plate. But when the whole thing collapses, or the face plate collapses in a whole bunch of folding pieces, then it annoys me.



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The game is called mass effect. Eezo allows for mass manupilation, negating 90% of your rant.

 

But I don't want to get in a discussion about what could be realistic. I want 'm because they look cool. Nothing else. Also, Vanquish was awesome.


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The game is called mass effect. Eezo allows for mass manupilation, negating 90% of your rant.

 

But I don't want to get in a discussion about what could be realistic. I want 'm because they look cool. Nothing else. Also, Vanquish was awesome.

 

First off, it wasn't my rant. Secondly it negates, at best, 50% of it in regards to mass and density, but not the moving parts.

 

Thirdly, no, no they do not look cool. They look over complicated over engineered, and a waste of time and resources. 



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They looked alright in Dead Space 2.  Not sure if I want them in Mass Effect



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Helmets are something I've been thinking about a lot. I like my character to wear a helmet and especially love the N7 one, with breather and without. They look pretty badass, imo. I've always wondered how the one with the breather just randomly popped out while changing environments, though. I guess the lifting face-plate, as somebody mentioned around here, would make me happy enough.

 

Collapsible helmets sound really cool to me, but I can't argue with what Former_Fiend said. Seems like regular helmets would be more practical and protective. Even if we talk mass effect fields, with regular helmet you still have a bigger layer of solid protection in comparison. I could see the collapsible helmet perhaps used as exploring equipment rather than for fighting, though. Or some sort of emergency equipment. On the other hand, maybe they could introduce some technology or reason that could make them more effective...?

 

I guess I'm more in favour of regular helmets. I wouldn't be at all heartbroken over getting a collapsible one, though.


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Ooo like Iron Man??

 

 

 

No thanks  :)



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Yep, just do it BioWare! :)

 

The armors, ships and weapons in ME are already designed with the rule of cool taking priority anyway, so the helmets might just as well join in.

 

I would use an animation where the helmet collapses sequentially and the different parts telescope into each other (sort of like in Stargate). I think that would also go very well with the unfolding weapons and such.


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N7Jamaican

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I would prefer if the helmet is taken off the old fashion way.



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afgncaap7

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Am I the only person in the world who doesn't see the point in constantly showing off a characters face? It's a battlefield, not a stage.


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Are collapsible helmets realistic? Perhaps not.

 

However, drinking through solid helmets, and helmets simply disappearing during cutscenes are much more jarring for my suspension of disbelief.

And we all know that Bioware's cutscenes usually ignore the "little details", so they are going to choose disappearing helmets over actually

animating helmet removal.

 

Collapsible helmets may not seem like much, but they are the lesser of two "evils".


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#20
SetecAstronomy

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Y'all wear helmets?

 

pfft...rookies. :P



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Also Matt LeBlanc for a VA 



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Collapsible skulls.


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AllianceGrunt

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Collapsible skulls.

 

Like Cannibals in ME3



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You know this is fiction right...

Anything is possible, but downing a shot of Krogan hair of the Varren thru your helmet does get annoying.

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Collapsible helmets might not be that realistic, but surely they're better than the popular alternative of not wearing a helmet at all.

Plus, if we want to talk realism, a realistic special forces soldier doesn't spend half the mission having emotional conversations.

Also we have collapsible guns, we might as well have collapsible equipment too.
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