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Is anyone else slightly disappointed about how the Trespasser DLC? I was more disappointed at the fact that I finally get to see my romanced Solas and he can careless. Case in point: The anchor is killing you and he pretty much leaves you to die. I am assuming that Dorian and Vivienne are the ones who came up with the option to cut off my inquisitors arm which saved my characters life but he didn't give any option to help my inquisitor. It was like he wanted her to die this way then the future to come. Also Solas claims that this world would be destroyed but if the elf slaves survived when the veil was created why can't they survive survive again? I dont know, i just wished there was an option to join him and be together with him. And knowing bioware the next game will have a different protagonist and i will never know if my inquisitor will ever be able to change solas mind or even join him with the destruction. Sadness :'(

 

 

 



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We don't know what really happened after Solas left. But he didn't leave you to die, even if you had low approval. He stopped the anchor. It pretty much petrified your arm, but it was stopped. He saved you.


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I think you didn't understand the last scene very well.

I know it's not exactly clear but Solas destroy the anchor in the last scene , and your arm is also destroyed , slowing disintegrating with the anchor.

He does save your life.

 

About elves dying without the veil , we don't know.

But in thousand of years elves have changed they can't tap into the fade to go in uthenara like Solas or Abelas.They still carry the "old blood" but they're probably overall closer to humans than old elves who didn't die when the veil was made.


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 The anchor is killing you and he pretty much leaves you to die. I am assuming that Dorian and Vivienne are the ones who came up with the option to cut off my inquisitors arm which saved my characters life but he didn't give any option to help my inquisitor.

 

May I ask you how did you come to that assumption? So far the fact that Solas removed your arm was discussed in several threads from different angles.



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Solas removes the anchor for every Inquisitor. For a romanced Inquisitor he does this as he kisses you.

 

You can say that you want to go with him to which he will refuse, saying he must do this on his own and he doesn't want you to see what he becomes.


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Is anyone else slightly disappointed about how the Trespasser DLC? I was more disappointed at the fact that I finally get to see my romanced Solas and he can careless.

 

1. Case in point: The anchor is killing you and he pretty much leaves you to die. I am assuming that Dorian and Vivienne are the ones who came up with the option to cut off my inquisitors arm which saved my characters life but he didn't give any option to help my inquisitor. It was like he wanted her to die this way then the future to come.

 

2. Also Solas claims that this world would be destroyed but if the elf slaves survived when the veil was created why can't they survive survive again?

 

3. I dont know, i just wished there was an option to join him and be together with him. And knowing bioware the next game will have a different protagonist and i will never know if my inquisitor will ever be able to change solas mind or even join him with the destruction. Sadness :'(

 

1. If you look at his eyes during the near end of the last cutscene when he is moving to kiss Lavellan his eyes should glow like it does in the scene with a non-romanced Inquisitor. Solas removes the Mark but your arm is too far gone to survive so there was no saving it hence why it looks like it is disolving. I believe this has been confirmed by a developer.

 

2. I believe some might survive since I do not believe Solas confirms it will cause the end of all life, only that he expects the chaos that follows the Veil's removal to be extensive and devastating.

 

3. There is an option for a romanced Lavellan to express that they wish to join him though not in support of his plan - it is left ambigous whether or not they support it, I believe - but Solas rejects the idea because he does not want Lavellan to see what he'll become nor does he want them to walk down the path he intends to since it leads to death.
 



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1. If you look at his eyes during the near end of the last cutscene when he is moving to kiss Lavellan his eyes should glow like it does in the scene with a non-romanced Inquisitor. Solas removes the Mark but your arm is too far gone to survive so there was no saving it hence why it looks like it is disolving. I believe this has been confirmed by a developer.

Yes, by Patrick Weekes himself:

http://olessan.tumbl...ication-on-what

 

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@PatrickWeekes Sorry if you’ve already answered this, but did Solas remove Quizzy’s arm or did they cut it off later? What’d he do to it?

 

Patrick Weekes @PatrickWeekes

He removed the Anchor. Your hand was too far gone at that point to save, though.


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Please be nice to me. This is the first time I have ever used a forum and I am slightly new to this. I tried looking for threads about this topic and turned up with a bunch of memes and hypothetical's about DA:4. As for the assumption with Dorian and Vivienne, Solus informs you that the Anchor is killing you, that's it. How am I supposed know that he stopped the anchor and in such destroyed your arm. The ending is extremely vague.  The only people who discussed about helping you was Dorian and Vivienne who tell you multiple times that when it was all over that they will help you. Was it a stupid assumption, possibly but I was confused and came here for some clarification.

 

I am just disappointed because the moment I saw Solus in the teaser trailer I was so excited to only have more questions and a vague closure to a great game. 

 

It also didn't help that I stayed up pretty late playing the DLC because I wanted to know what happened. Sorry to make you repeat what is already known as I am rarely on the computer and google doesn't exactly help with my confusion.  


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Well to be honest you are not the only one being confused by the last scene ,OldNo07Brand.

The loss of the arm is very sudden , and I think they tried to make the last scene with Solas and the magical amputation the less shocking possible.

The result is a number of people didn't realise what was going on.

 

When I played I already knew Solas would take the arm , so I realised what was happening.


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Yes, by Patrick Weekes himself:

http://olessan.tumbl...ication-on-what

 

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@PatrickWeekes Sorry if you’ve already answered this, but did Solas remove Quizzy’s arm or did they cut it off later? What’d he do to it?

 

Patrick Weekes @PatrickWeekes

He removed the Anchor. Your hand was too far gone at that point to save, though.

Oh, so Solas chickened out to remove the Anchor when it wasn't too far gone, even though he always knew that it will eventually kill the Inquisitor. Instead he disappeared and let the Anchor fester. Good job, egg!


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Oh, so Solas chickened out to remove the Anchor when it wasn't too far gone, even though he always knew that it will eventually kill the Inquisitor. Instead he disappeared and let the Anchor fester. Good job, egg!

 

He wasn't strong enough to remove it at first. And it was also necessary for things through DAI, so leaving it in place was the best choice at the time.

 

In Trespasser he purposely leads you to him so he can remove the anchor, which is after the point he is also more powerful. The arm itself couldn't be saved, but at least you're alive. And yes, the scene is a bit vague on what happens at the end if you're in a romance with him. He removes it when kissing Lavellan, whereas with a non-romance you can see it happening. I get how some people might be confused.


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He wasn't strong enough to remove it at first. And it was also necessary for things through DAI, so leaving it in place was the best choice at the time.

 

*snip*

Any given day after he took Mythal's essence and before the Anchor's power surged out of control? He's had 2 years and waited for the last moment - any particular reasons? Perhaps making sure that the Inquisitor would be in no state to interfere with his plans?



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Any given day after he took Mythal's essence and before the Anchor's power surged out of control? He's had 2 years and waited for the last moment - any particular reasons?

 

I am absolutely certain that if I did indeed know the answer it would be because I was employed by BioWare and could only respond to that question with "spoilers!"

 

But in all honesty we have no idea how long it took him to find FleMythal. Just because we saw it happen after playing DAI doesn't mean it didn't take him, say, a year to do so, and then some more time to set things up in figuring out how best to approach the matter. There has to be some understanding in any story that time passes and things happen even if we aren't right there to see it.



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Any given day after he took Mythal's essence and before the Anchor's power surged out of control? He's had 2 years and waited for the last moment - any particular reasons? Perhaps making sure that the Inquisitor would be in no state to interfere with his plans?


I head cannon that the inquisitor has been using the anchor to close remaining rifts over the past two years. Solas, being aware of this fact through spy reports, only leads you to him when the anchor becomes more unstable.
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I am absolutely certain that if I did indeed know the answer it would be because I was employed by BioWare and could only respond to that question with "spoilers!"

 

But in all honesty we have no idea how long it took him to find FleMythal. Just because we saw it happen after playing DAI doesn't mean it didn't take him, say, a year to do so, and then some more time to set things up in figuring out how best to approach the matter. There has to be some understanding in any story that time passes and things happen even if we aren't right there to see it.

What a lucky coincidence that he managed just in time!



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I liked it actually. That last kiss..... meow. Gonna stalk him silly now <3

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I thought the ending was brilliant, especially with a romanced Solas.  It really continued the nature of the relationship between him and the Inquisitor.  The respect for intellect, the love of the Inquisitor's "indomitable spirit," the sadness of past mistakes, and the guilt of pulling away, causing pain now to avoid causing her more pain in the future.  He saves you, he loves you, and he doesn't want you to feel pain in the time you have left.  He wants you to focus on the things that you can control, to focus on your victories, and be at peace when the Veil is sundered.


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What a lucky coincidence that he managed just in time!

 

Yes! It's almost like this doesn't happen in stories!

 

Looking at how the "upgrades" to the anchor worked through the game, I felt it was kind of a byproduct of traveling through the crossroads and it waking up to the ambient magic in the area or something. It's easy to reason something into making sense when following a story, because that's kind of what you do when you follow a story. Instead of raspberrying Solas for waiting so long to take the anchor, ask why it was set up that way. Solas didn't write the DLC. :P



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I think you didn't understand the last scene very well.

I know it's not exactly clear but Solas destroy the anchor in the last scene , and your arm is also destroyed , slowing disintegrating with the anchor.

He does save your life.

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No, he says that the mark will still kill you, but he prolongs this.



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Yes! It's almost like this doesn't happen in stories!

 

Looking at how the "upgrades" to the anchor worked through the game, I felt it was kind of a byproduct of traveling through the crossroads and it waking up to the ambient magic in the area or something. It's easy to reason something into making sense when following a story, because that's kind of what you do when you follow a story. Instead of raspberrying Solas for waiting so long to take the anchor, ask why it was set up that way. Solas didn't write the DLC. :P

Not when you're dealing with Trickster, no. Who also coincidentally managed to build spy network rivalling Qunari on his word alone, no less. Since, you know, he was too weak to prove he's not some apostate hobo.


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No, he says that the mark will still kill you, but he prolongs this.

 

No the mark won't kill you, he removed it and the writors have confirmed that's what happened.

 

Of course you will still die soon when he destroys the world, so its kinda silly...


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I didn't say I didn't like the ending just wanted some closure with my romanced character. I dont mind the cliffhangers either but atleast be a little more clear on the events leading up to it. Plus I love how when the inquisitor comes back there is no dialogue, no nothing about her missing her arm or the anchor. Its like oh look something is different about her, must be her hair! Lol


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Any given day after he took Mythal's essence and before the Anchor's power surged out of control? He's had 2 years and waited for the last moment - any particular reasons? Perhaps making sure that the Inquisitor would be in no state to interfere with his plans?

 

I think, for all his bluster, he's really not all that sure of his magic.  Was setting his coattails on fire done purposely?  The world wants to know!  ;)

 

Perhaps he was hoping that he was wrong about the Anchor killing the Inquisitor, and so he waited until he was sure that it was.  I can't imagine that he was happy about having to take the arm off.



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I think, for all his bluster, he's really not all that sure of his magic.  Was setting his coattails on fire done purposely?  The world wants to know!   ;)

 

Perhaps he was hoping that he was wrong about the Anchor killing the Inquisitor, and so he waited until he was sure that it was.  I can't imagine that he was happy about having to take the arm off.

 

I guess i figured that it would have hindered his plans to go to remove the mark too soon. He needed more time to observe from afar, and brought the Inquisitor as far away from their forces and allies so he could do it. I mean, Cassandra or Varric have never seemed to be the kind to just sit back and listen. He needed to gather some more allies and such, affirm he has the ability to succeed with his plans etc. I bet he always knew it would kill the Inquisitor, but also needed them to learn some harsh truths of the world (such as the fate of big organisations) rather than just saying it. He seems to like to indirectly pull strings, more than outright make a move.



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I didn't say I didn't like the ending just wanted some closure with my romanced character. I dont mind the cliffhangers either but atleast be a little more clear on the events leading up to it. Plus I love how when the inquisitor comes back there is no dialogue, no nothing about her missing her arm or the anchor. Its like oh look something is different about her, must be her hair! Lol

I think this was done to make the missing arm more shocking to players.  There would definitely have been some talking about the arm off-screen before she walked into the council, but they excluded that so that they could reveal it in an ironically unceremonious way.   


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