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[Tielis]

I thought it was a perfect way to end the romance. You get closure in a way. We know he still loves her. You find out you could be the key to stop/saving him and Thedas, and before he leaves, he saves your life by freeing you from the Anchor. And he says he drew you here so he could save you from dying. At the end he watches you in dreams. I see nothing wrong with that ending at all.

 

And then he buggers off and you see a stab-the-map scene.  Nope, not good enough closure for me, sorry.

[Smudjygirl]

And then he buggers off and you see a stab-the-map scene.  Nope, not good enough closure for me, sorry.

 

Seconded. They kicked the door open after that one

[berelinde]

Where does it say that he watches you in dreams? Because if that's actually true, an Inquisitor who wants to stop Solas (or even one who wants to redeem him) had better get somebody else to track him down.

[Uirebhiril]

Where does it say that he watches you in dreams? Because if that's actually true, an Inquisitor who wants to stop Solas (or even one who wants to redeem him) had better get somebody else to track him down.

 

He watches a romanced Lavellan in her dreams, from a distance.

[Darkstarr11]

I think you didn't understand the last scene very well.

I know it's not exactly clear but Solas destroy the anchor in the last scene , and your arm is also destroyed , slowing disintegrating with the anchor.

He does save your life.

 

About elves dying without the veil , we don't know.

But in thousand of years elves have changed they can't tap into the fade to go in uthenara like Solas or Abelas.They still carry the "old blood" but they're probably overall closer to humans than old elves who didn't die when the veil was made.

 

My first time watching the Lavellan Solas Romance I didn't notice it either.  He was more subtle with the magic.  STILL removed the arm, but apparently the whole 'take my hand thing' was swapped for a kiss.  Shows he has a flair for the dramatic.  

 

Personally, I think he didn't remove the Anchor because he didn't understand it fully.  Solas made a LOT of assumptions, which he admitted were wrong.  So when he left you at after your battle with Corypheus, he may not have known that the Anchor would kill the Inquisitor.  When he did observe what was happening through his spies, and ran into the Qunari plot, he saw the perfect opportunity to kill two birds with one stone.  Especially if you romanced him, or were friends.  In a way, I think he desperately want to tell you what he was up to, because he hoped that you would sympathize with his 'plight' over the elves.  Deep down, he needs someone to understand him.  Saving the life of the Inquisitor helped with that.  Also, NOW he knows what the Anchor will do.  He MAY have suspected, as he told a romanced Lavellan that his journey was filled with death, showing that he probably wouldn't survive what was to come.  In fact, whoever rips open the Veil, well, might die when they do so.  After all, if you drank from the Well, he could have simply compelled you to tear down the Veil with the Mark.  He DIDN'T...why?  Romance/Friend meant he was destroying the ONE person in the world who might understand him...his friend.  While he WILL do reprehensible things, forcing someone he cares about to sacrifice their life for his cause might have crossed a line.  If you WEREN'T friends, he probably felt that it would draw too much attention to his plans to do so.  Maybe the world should burn, but why create more chaos until you have to, right?

 

As to the arm...well, that is EASY to figure out why the Devs did that.  It was a game breaker.  Most likely, they want a NEW hero in Thedas.  However, with the Inquisitor STILL possessing the Mark, why would you need a new hero?  You wouldn't.  SO...remove the Mark.  Also, with the backlash that was probably faced because of Hawke and the HoF, they needed to make sure that they COULDN'T come back as a fighter.  I know many people who wished that Hawke could have joined the team, OR have BEEN the Inquisitor.  People were crying out for the Warden to return.  THIS way...even IF the Inquisitor returns, they AREN'T going to be on the frontline.  We MIGHT see them fight, but probably in a cutscene or something.  They wanted them OUT of the way this time.  The Inquisitor is done as an adventurer.  THIS is how they did it.

 

Remember that dialogue from Armageddon?

 

Chick: You really don't wanna go killing the best man on your team right before we strike oil.

Harry: Aw, shucks, Chick, I ain't gonna kill him, I'll just blow off a foot. A man can work with one foot. Remember ole Willie worked all them years with just one hand?

 

Chick: Yeah, but he wasn't very good.

[berelinde]

He watches a romanced Lavellan in her dreams, from a distance.

Where does it say that?

[Smudjygirl]

Where does it say that?

 

In the slide show at the end

[Uirebhiril]

In the slide show at the end

 

This. It's the romance portion of the slides for Solas, much like you get for other companions. Excepting the part they aren't powerful Dreamer gods seeking to destroy the world.

[Smudjygirl]

This. It's the romance portion of the slides for Solas, much like you get for other companions. Excepting the part they aren't powerful Dreamer gods seeking to destroy the world.

 

Because, who doesn't want one of those

[Tielis]

 

As to the arm...well, that is EASY to figure out why the Devs did that.  It was a game breaker.  Most likely, they want a NEW hero in Thedas.  However, with the Inquisitor STILL possessing the Mark, why would you need a new hero?  You wouldn't.  SO...remove the Mark.  Also, with the backlash that was probably faced because of Hawke and the HoF, they needed to make sure that they COULDN'T come back as a fighter.  I know many people who wished that Hawke could have joined the team, OR have BEEN the Inquisitor.  People were crying out for the Warden to return.  THIS way...even IF the Inquisitor returns, they AREN'T going to be on the frontline.  We MIGHT see them fight, but probably in a cutscene or something.  They wanted them OUT of the way this time.  The Inquisitor is done as an adventurer.  THIS is how they did it.

 

Yeah, no.  This would only feed into the idea that "disabled people can't X".  Not real great PR there.

 

You might be right, but personally I am offended by this "disable the Inquisitor to get him/her out if the way", as I am disabled, albeit I do have all my limbs.

[Uirebhiril]

Eh, it could be losing the arm is to remove the Inquisitor from the frontlines, or a way to bring them back at a lower level for a new game -- they have to re-learn how to fight, etc. etc. Either way. Whatever the next game brings, if anyone but the Inquisitor settles up with Solas I will be really annoyed. I don't care if he was loved or hated by a particular Inquisitor, it should be on them to see it through. Not some new grunt who didn't get the chance to form any sort of connection to the character.

 

Dual protagonist, a cameo like Hawke's -- but better executed -- or being sole protagonist, whatever. Just let 'em see it through.

[Kakistos_]

Yeah, The scene was kind of perfect and poetic in a sense even after I had noticed the arm. Fen'halrel kissed Lavellan and then in the next scene when She walks towards the council I was like WHOA!!!

 

As if being pumped and dumped by the Dread Wolf himself wasn't bad enough, he has to come back and take my arm too. Ain't that a b!tch. I effing loved it though.

[Darkstarr11]

Yeah, no.  This would only feed into the idea that "disabled people can't X".  Not real great PR there.

 

You might be right, but personally I am offended by this "disable the Inquisitor to get him/her out if the way", as I am disabled, albeit I do have all my limbs.

 

It wouldn't be the first time they flubbed and offended their fans, would it?  It was probably more to get them out of the field than anything else, but yeah, it can absolutely be construed as offensive, even if unintentionally.  It SHOULDN'T have any bearing on them leading though.  As long as they still have their head, heh, they ARE the Inquisitor, and lead the Inquisition.  

 

Though if Azog can jam a blade or whatever into HIS arm and get away with it, and Guts gets a prosthetic hand, I figure my Champion should get an arm that he can strap a shield to.  OR that cool crossbow hand we saw in the Red Jenny slides.  

[Kakistos_]

Eh, it could be losing the arm is to remove the Inquisitor from the frontlines, or a way to bring them back at a lower level for a new game -- they have to re-learn how to fight, etc. etc. Either way. Whatever the next game brings, if anyone but the Inquisitor settles up with Solas I will be really annoyed. I don't care if he was loved or hated by a particular Inquisitor, it should be on them to see it through. Not some new grunt who didn't get the chance to form any sort of connection to the character.

 

Dual protagonist, a cameo like Hawke's -- but better executed -- or being sole protagonist, whatever. Just let 'em see it through.

I agree, the Inquisitor should be present and important in the Dread Wolf story line going forward and if still alive should most definitely be there when it ends, Playable or no. As for the arm being an excuse to not play as the Inquisitor again, I thought mutilating our character was needless. If they don't mean for us to play as the Inquisitor again then a simple Tweet would have sufficed. I do speculate that the lost arm could lead to other things however...

[almasy87]

Personally, I think he didn't remove the Anchor because he didn't understand it fully.  Solas made a LOT of assumptions, which he admitted were wrong.  So when he left you at after your battle with Corypheus, he may not have known that the Anchor would kill the Inquisitor.  

 

 Yeah. If you watch the "low approval" ending, he says "Ultimately none but I could have borne the mark and survived". Could have.
He doesn't say straight "Only I can can bear the mark and survive".
So the way he says it, it sounds like he waited to see if it was possible for the Inquisitor to keep it and not be harmed, but he realized that ultimately it is not. So he drew you to him to help you.

@OldNo07Brand,
don't worry, I also didn't understand that he was removing the anchor while kissing her. I was too involved in looking at their faces to notice, and had teary eyes When Lavellan appeared after, I was like "What happened to her arm??". And I thought she had to cut it off herself.

In the friendly/unfriendly Solas videos it is more clear since he asks you to give him your arm or takes it from you anyway. In the romance video they tried to make it sweeter with the kiss, which I loved, but the arm part was a bit overshadowed then

Anyway... do not be sad. We poor Lavellans must unite into thinking there will be still a little hope for the Inquisitor to save him.. whether or not Quizzy will be a main character. That's all the hope we have left now. *hugs*

But I still really liked the ending, it was very sweet and the music made it really emotional.

[Smudjygirl]

 Yeah. If you watch the "low approval" ending, he says "Ultimately none but I could have borne the mark and survived". Could have.
He doesn't say straight "Only I can can bear the mark and survive".
So the way he says it, it sounds like he waited to see if it was possible for the Inquisitor to keep it and not be harmed, but he realized that ultimately it is not. So he drew you to him to help you.

 

 

I think "could" in that was the past of "can", more than anything else. It's not a matter of who is better suited for it at that point, but more he was explaining that he was the only one who could have had the mark, use it and it not kill him. That's how i understood it anyway.  ("Could" is used to express possibility or past ability as well as to make suggestions and requests < the way i thought it was used)

 

English is  tricky thing, isn't it?

[Tielis]

It wouldn't be the first time they flubbed and offended their fans, would it?  It was probably more to get them out of the field than anything else, but yeah, it can absolutely be construed as offensive, even if unintentionally.  It SHOULDN'T have any bearing on them leading though.  As long as they still have their head, heh, they ARE the Inquisitor, and lead the Inquisition.  

 

Though if Azog can jam a blade or whatever into HIS arm and get away with it, and Guts gets a prosthetic hand, I figure my Champion should get an arm that he can strap a shield to.  OR that cool crossbow hand we saw in the Red Jenny slides.  

 

Fair enough.  There is a prosthetic thread and there are pics of some really beautiful ones in there.

[Tielis]

I think "could" in that was the past of "can", more than anything else. It's not a matter of who is better suited for it at that point, but more he was explaining that he was the only one who could have had the mark, use it and it not kill him. That's how i understood it anyway.  ("Could" is used to express possibility or past ability as well as to make suggestions and requests < the way i thought it was used)

 

English is  tricky thing, isn't it?

 

I love reading books that were created in other languages, and if the translation is loyal to the original language they can really make you think.  Often people who are not native English speakers can really come up with some great alternate ideas about what certain words and combinations of words can mean.

[KumoriYami]

Rather than disappointment, the Trespasser ending for Solavellan made me feel... "OMG you break my heart into a million pieces and Lavellan still loves you and will do anything to go after you....!" and "WHY BIOWARE?! WHY!"

 

Also "Creators, it's going to be years before we get any closure..."

[Darkstarr11]

Rather than disappointment, the Trespasser ending for Solavellan made me feel... "OMG you break my heart into a million pieces and Lavellan still loves you and will do anything to go after you....!" and "WHY BIOWARE?! WHY!"

 

Also "Creators, it's going to be years before we get any closure..."

 

 

WHY BIOWARE?! WHY!

 

Yeah...actually, that can sum it up quite well.  That should be the catch all for the gut wrenching, heartbreaking stuff they did to our Inquisitors at the end of Trespasser.

 

"May the Dread Wolf take you."

 

...well, apparently YES...like, with part of my ARM for starters!

 

[Smudjygirl]

I love reading books that were created in other languages, and if the translation is loyal to the original language they can really make you think.  Often people who are not native English speakers can really come up with some great alternate ideas about what certain words and combinations of words can mean.

 

That's very true. They usually offer a fresh perspective. I teach English to my Japanese friends, so i have a wider interpretation of certain words. I was just stating that i feel "Ultimately none but i could have borne the mark and lived" was Solas saying that he is and always has been the only one who could use it successfully. More than "could", though, it was "ultimately" that gave me that impression.

[9TailsFox]

I think it was best romance in DA:I. mostly because Solas important character and so much drama. would change nothing.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Hey, look on the bright side. He may be trying to kill almost everyone in Thedas, but at least your boyfriend is alive. That's more than my Cadash can say about Blackwall.

 

(Not to mention anyone who romanced Bull and sacrificed the Chargers. And does Cullen still end up dying on a street corner if you romanced him but told him to stay on the lyrium?)

[Smudjygirl]

Hey, look on the bright side. He may be trying to kill almost everyone in Thedas, but at least your boyfriend is alive. That's more than my Cadash can say about Blackwall.

 

(Not to mention anyone who romanced Bull and sacrificed the Chargers. And does Cullen still end up dying on a street corner if you romanced him but told him to stay on the lyrium?)

 

Yeah, but it's more than likely he will die one way or another. Just a matter of time. He even says that there is "only death on this journey"