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#51
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Hey, look on the bright side. He may be trying to kill almost everyone in Thedas, but at least your boyfriend is alive. That's more than my Cadash can say about Blackwall.

 

(Not to mention anyone who romanced Bull and sacrificed the Chargers. And does Cullen still end up dying on a street corner if you romanced him but told him to stay on the lyrium?)

 

If romanced, no he doesn't. that's only a non-romance lyrium-drinking ending.



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I thought it was a well written ending...it wasn't the happy ending that many solasmancers (including me) were hoping for.  However, that whole romance was a tragically delicate flower that was doomed from the start so it really should have been no surprise.  I have played the DLC twice, once with a Solasmancer and one with a friendly  relationship with him and actually I thought the romance dialogue/scene was better - although hard, hard to accept.  :-)



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No I expected it. Solas romance is suppose to be tragic. He plans on destroying the world and killing everyone except his people who may not be modern elves. He almost did it before, but Cory screwed it up. He wants to save ancient elves and spirits.



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Solas romance is the best by far it's so sad and makes you want to cry lol. I'm really sad that we didn't get a happy ending totally would have gone with him ;) I just hope that if the inquisitor is in the game that there relationship continues other wise the choices at the end would be a waste and just mean to us.
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#55
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I don't feel disappointment at all, for me all their conversation was perfect.  Just hope we will see them together in the next game... At least my Lady Inquisitor won't give up on him. :)


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I don't feel disappointment at all, for me all their conversation was perfect.  Just hope we will see them together in the next game... At least my Lady Inquisitor won't give up on him. :)

 

Patrick Weekes writes Solas.  You MAY want a tissue box if they finish up the Lavellan/Solas romance in DA4.  And save up for a broken remote...

 

 


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Thank you Darkstarr11 - that's what I need after finishing Traspasser last night. Although this ending was quite good, I think they deserve something more. I keep my finger crossed we'll get a great story in DA4.


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Thank you Darkstarr11 - that's what I need after finishing Traspasser last night. Although this ending was quite good, I think they deserve something more. I keep my finger crossed we'll get a great story in DA4.

 

So will I >.<

And nice avatar :D I got that screen as my desktop wallpaper XD


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The amount of closure we got from trespasser in regards to the Solas romance was perfect in my opinion. We are told he still cares and have an open ending where we can declare that we want to go after him and save him from himself, making future possibilities quite exciting. My biggest issue with the Solas romance has always been that Solas knows too much. He could tell us about the nature of things and the history of thedas where I think Biowares plan is to let us unravel the mysteries throughout the games at a good pace.

 

I would be thrilled if the next game is about stopping Solas as the inquisitor and I believe that by having this type of end to trespasser means there is actually a good possiblity to have the inquisitor as a recurring protagonist.


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Patrick Weekes writes Solas.  You MAY want a tissue box if they finish up the Lavellan/Solas romance in DA4.  And save up for a broken remote...

 

 

Patrick Weeks : Every time someone ask when DA4 will be released I kill companion.


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I enjoyed the Solas romance, it was wonderfully tragic in the end. The final scene was amazing and heart wrenching, the epilogue alone was enough to make me cry.

 

Lavellan sometimes came awake from dreams in which her lover watched her sadly from across an endless distance​. If they were more then simple dreams, she could not say, for every time she reached for him, he vanished into nothing :crying:

 


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Solas romance is my favorite from all BioWare games that I have played, because it made me feel. End of Trespasser left me wanting more and I don't mean just about romance, but The Dread Wolf himself. I fully expect that there will be more tears in the future and it wont be easy, but there is hope.

 

About those Mass Effect 3 videos... True both Tali and Mordin could be dead, but they both could be alive. It all depends on your previous choices. Is it easy? Maybe not. Is it worth it? That depends.

 

I am willing to trust Patrick Weekes to deliver me an excellent and heartbreaking story.


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I thought the ending was brilliant, especially with a romanced Solas. It really continued the nature of the relationship between him and the Inquisitor. The respect for intellect, the love of the Inquisitor's "indomitable spirit," the sadness of past mistakes, and the guilt of pulling away, causing pain now to avoid causing her more pain in the future. He saves you, he loves you, and he doesn't want you to feel pain in the time you have left. He wants you to focus on the things that you can control, to focus on your victories, and be at peace when the Veil is sundered.


I know there's a TON of Solas-mancers out there, but,
Eh.
As my Inqy is writhing in pain he warns Solas thru gritted-teeth "if I survive, I will stop you!"
I really love that line, basically telling Solas, he should let Inqy die because if he saves the Inqy, he's coming for Solas.
Giving Solas a moment of pause (to contemplate saving the Inqy or letting him die, no doubt).
Then Solas sadly responds "I know."
Brilliant!!
To hell with romancing Solas, I'll take that scene anyday. It's epic.
Plus, I'm a straight guy so it feels weird for me to romance guys.
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Solas romance is my favorite from all BioWare games that I have played, because it made me feel. End of Trespasser left me wanting more and I don't mean just about romance, but The Dread Wolf himself. I fully expect that there will be more tears in the future and it wont be easy, but there is hope.

About those Mass Effect 3 videos... True both Tali and Mordin could be dead, but they both could be alive. It all depends on your previous choices. Is it easy? Maybe not. Is it worth it? That depends.


I am willing to trust Patrick Weekes to deliver me an excellent and heartbreaking story.


No Mordin ALWAYS dies in ME3.
Unless,
He's killed in ME2's collector base. Then it's his rogue assistant.
Tali can die if the geth wipe out the quarians.
But Tali is my fav so she is always my Shep's LI=alive and well.

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No Mordin ALWAYS dies in ME3.
Unless,
He's killed in ME2's collector base. Then it's his rogue assistant.
Tali can die if the geth wipe out the quarians.
But Tali is my fav so she is always my Shep's LI=alive and well.

Mordin can stay alive. It requires Wreav to be clan leader and Eve to die.

 

OT: It's totally cool to be disappointed with the romance.


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Mordin can stay alive. It requires Wreav to be clan leader and Eve to die.

OT: It's totally cool to be disappointed with the romance.


No kidding?
I will be damned, I'm wrong and I stand corrected.
That's my problem, I never killed Eve, honestly I don't think I could...

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Solas romance is sad, but I do have hope that something good will come out of this. I just say everytime "Every sad story can have a happy ending...". I trust Weekes. He's a very good writer and also had some tweets lately that solavellans "may still have HOPE", so a sad story doesn't necessarily have a sad ending. There must be some happiness for Solas, some joy and comfort. At least this is what I wish for him. And that's the point of RPGs, to let players have choices...


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I trust Weekes. He's a very good writer and also had some tweets lately that "solavellans may still have HOPE"

 

Yeah?
I must have missed this. Where??? XD
 



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Yeah?
I must have missed this. Where??? XD

Well, it's not quite a promise, but it is a glimpse of hope.

 

http://40.media.tumb...70yeo1_1280.png

and this https://twitter.com/...696414712639489


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No kidding?
I will be damned, I'm wrong and I stand corrected.
That's my problem, I never killed Eve, honestly I don't think I could...

That is the reason why I said it wasn't always easy to keep these characters alive, but it was possible.



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That is the reason why I said it wasn't always easy to keep these characters alive, but it was possible.

 

But you have to (let) kill Wrex instead... so there is no "ideal" happy outcome no matter how much you are trying.. oh, dear Mordin... and Legion...  :crying:



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I must admit I was pleasantly surprised just how much the romance ending affected me.   I finished the main game feeling like someone had punched me in the gut but also strangely empty.   It brought back a lot of bad real life memories of when someone close to me abandoned me without ever really giving me a reason why.    The celebrations at the end didn't really interest me and I felt my girl was just going through the motions before hiding in her room and crying her heart out.   It seemed so sad with her looking out from the balcony alone.    Then we were shown who he really was.    What made it worse was PW's comment that they included the romance specifically to make people more sympathetic towards his character.   I thought "You bastards, I feel so used."

 

So I replayed the game with Dorian as my romance and got all the lovely vibes at the end; party seemed a real celebration and that Inquisitor was on a high.   Pretty much the same with Cassandra romance.   When Trespasser came out I played through the ending with these two first before I had the courage to attempt it with my girl.

 

What amazed me was that I really did get back into her character.   She still loved Solas inspite of everything.   When she yelled "I've got to save Solas", I meant it.  Then finally catching up with him, I really was moved by the scene.   I took the dialogue choice where she says sadly "The Dread Wolf did take me."    I think if I didn't already know about the arm, I would have been confused because it isn't obvious what he is doing.    Still I do now have a play through  where my character has honestly wanted to save him.    Him haunting her dreams in a wistful, sad way would probably mean more if Cole hadn't told me about Felassan and the "Slow Arrow breaks in the sad wolfs jaws".    He is one seriously conflicted elf - I only hope she can persuade him to abandon his plans.

 

By contrast, my male elf character, in love with Dorian, is enraged at Solas and I loved the way he challenges him, even though I think that threatening someone who has the power to turn you to stone with a thought probably isn't the wisest move in the world.      I chose the aggressive disbandment option with him and liked the way that comes over too.  That leaves the whole idea of Inquisitor not longer active far more open than the serving the Divine option.    He didn't say, "my adventuring days are over"  but "now if you'll excuse me, I have to save the world, again."     I'm also of the agreement that simply losing his arm shouldn't be a barrier to active service.   This is a world of magic after all and surely they could make some sort of mechanical substitute that would at least allow him to hold a bow?   Alternatively retrain in the use of one handed weapons.    So whilst it probably was intended to explain why the Inquisitor isn't the PC in the next game, they could change the emphasis before it finally comes out.   If it wasn't that they've said they want a new PC in each game, I would have thought the loss of the arm was the perfect way to explain why the Inquisitor was suddenly back to low level ability because of the need to retrain.


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I must admit I was pleasantly surprised just how much the romance ending affected me. I finished the main game feeling like someone had punched me in the gut but also strangely empty. It brought back a lot of bad real life memories of when someone close to me abandoned me without ever really giving me a reason why. The celebrations at the end didn't really interest me and I felt my girl was just going through the motions before hiding in her room and crying her heart out. It seemed so sad with her looking out from the balcony alone. Then we were shown who he really was. What made it worse was PW's comment that they included the romance specifically to make people more sympathetic towards his character. I thought "You bastards, I feel so used."

So I replayed the game with Dorian as my romance and got all the lovely vibes at the end; party seemed a real celebration and that Inquisitor was on a high. Pretty much the same with Cassandra romance. When Trespasser came out I played through the ending with these two first before I had the courage to attempt it with my girl.

What amazed me was that I really did get back into her character. She still loved Solas inspite of everything. When she yelled "I've got to save Solas", I meant it. Then finally catching up with him, I really was moved by the scene. I took the dialogue choice where she says sadly "The Dread Wolf did take me." I think if I didn't already know about the arm, I would have been confused because it isn't obvious what he is doing. Still I do now have a play through where my character has honestly wanted to save him. Him haunting her dreams in a wistful, sad way would probably mean more if Cole hadn't told me about Felassan and the "Slow Arrow breaks in the sad wolfs jaws". He is one seriously conflicted elf - I only hope she can persuade him to abandon his plans.

By contrast, my male elf character, in love with Dorian, is enraged at Solas and I loved the way he challenges him, even though I think that threatening someone who has the power to turn you to stone with a thought probably isn't the wisest move in the world. I chose the aggressive disbandment option with him and liked the way that comes over too. That leaves the whole idea of Inquisitor not longer active far more open than the serving the Divine option. He didn't say, "my adventuring days are over" but "now if you'll excuse me, I have to save the world, again." I'm also of the agreement that simply losing his arm shouldn't be a barrier to active service. This is a world of magic after all and surely they could make some sort of mechanical substitute that would at least allow him to hold a bow? Alternatively retrain in the use of one handed weapons. So whilst it probably was intended to explain why the Inquisitor isn't the PC in the next game, they could change the emphasis before it finally comes out. If it wasn't that they've said they want a new PC in each game, I would have thought the loss of the arm was the perfect way to explain why the Inquisitor was suddenly back to low level ability because of the need to retrain.


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And then he buggers off and you see a stab-the-map scene.  Nope, not good enough closure for me, sorry.

Not complaining about the ending because I actually did enjoy the storytelling in Trespasser - far surpassed the original game imo.

But I just had a thought - if you drink from the well, wouldn't that mean he would know where you are anyway since Mythal's power is in him? Or is that not how it works? xD



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Not complaining about the ending because I actually did enjoy the storytelling in Trespasser - far surpassed the original game imo.

But I just had a thought - if you drink from the well, wouldn't that mean he would know where you are anyway since Mythal's power is in him? Or is that not how it works? xD

We actually don't know if he took her power. And we surely don't know if Solas knows where our Inquisitor is hiding. ;) It's pure speculation.