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[TeffexPope]

I'm not in any way an "LGBT movement member" or however you want to phrase it, but I had no desire to discount people or yell at them or whatever for being gay. You can even ask Krem something like "Why pretend to be a man?" I always just role played my inquisitors as not knowing any better and thinking of Krem as a man, and that's it. In reality, I'd never ask somebody that question anyway because I either wouldn't know any better, or I really wouldn't care one way or the other. And I had more than one female inquisitor romance Sera, because she's not as tropey as Josephine and Cassandra (I didn't dislike either of those romances, don't get me wrong). I really wish she was a bi LI tbh.

 

I don't really see where 'giant PC sticks' were used in this game. Nobody shoves their sexuality in your face. Dorian only reveals himself under great duress, or (assuming, because I didn't do a Dorian romance) unless your flirt with him as a male Inquisitor. It really is a credit to Bioware that their world is so full of lore, life and character that there's already enough in-universe issues for this particular subject to not be one.

 

At the end of the day, I'm assuming the quote in the OP's post is some random guy on Steam giving a review of the game. Who cares? Why get riled up about it? 

[Nefla]

I guess BioWare does tend to shove sexuality in your character's face. Both Leandra and Gamlen have kids and we know they had to have sex with members of the opposite sex since those kids are biological, Leandra was even married to a man! We had to see Varric flaunt his relationship with a woman (Bianca) and we didn't even get to slap them and call them gross for their heterosexuality. We had to actually help Aveline with her heterosexual romance if we wanted to do her quest. Why couldn't we tell her she's icky and we hate her life choices instead? The city elf is forced into a heterosexual marriage even if they don't want it. Everywhere we go it's bring back a woman's husband's ring, find a guy's female lover, etc...

 

[Jaison1986]

I guess BioWare does tend to shove sexuality in your character's face. Both Leandra and Gamlen have kids and we know they had to have sex with members of the opposite sex since those kids are biological, Leandra was even married to a man! We had to see Varric flaunt his relationship with a woman (Bianca) and we didn't even get to slap them and call them gross for their heterosexuality. We had to actually help Aveline with her heterosexual romance if we wanted to do her quest. Why couldn't we tell her she's icky and we hate her life choices instead? The city elf is forced into a heterosexual marriage even if they don't want it. Everywhere we go it's bring back a woman's husband's ring, find a guy's female lover, etc...

 

 

At least the fandom doesn't try to make an big deal about that. Wich to me at least, is the bigger problem.

[BansheeOwnage]

Am I missing something, or did all of my posts in this thread just disappear?

[TammieAZ]

I guess BioWare does tend to shove sexuality in your character's face. Both Leandra and Gamlen have kids and we know they had to have sex with members of the opposite sex since those kids are biological, Leandra was even married to a man! We had to see Varric flaunt his relationship with a woman (Bianca) and we didn't even get to slap them and call them gross for their heterosexuality. We had to actually help Aveline with her heterosexual romance if we wanted to do her quest. Why couldn't we tell her she's icky and we hate her life choices instead? The city elf is forced into a heterosexual marriage even if they don't want it. Everywhere we go it's bring back a woman's husband's ring, find a guy's female lover, etc...

 

 

Really? Is this were we are at now?????

 

 

You are here because of heterosexuality.  Man + Woman = baby. It's the natural order of things .  And if you're still lost ..here is Dwayne Johnson to explain  it to you further .

 

 

[Nefla]

Really? Is this were we are at now?????

 

 

You are here because of heterosexuality.  Man + Woman = baby. It's the natural order of things .  And if you're still lost ..here is Dwayne Johnson to explain  it to you further .

Relax, it's a joke.

[Mr.House]

Really? Is this were we are at now?????

 

 

You are here because of heterosexuality.  Man + Woman = baby. It's the natural order of things .  And if you're still lost ..here is Dwayne Johnson to explain  it to you further .

 

 

We already have enough ungrateful brats, don't need more right now.

[Nefla]

Am I missing something, or did all of my posts in this thread just disappear?

They did,

[BansheeOwnage]

They did,

If a moderator deleted my posts, they could at least have the decency to tell me why, or let me know at all... what the hell? That's not cool. Why would they delete my posts, most of which were on-topic, and do nothing with the openly bigoted posts, which are blatantly against the forum rules? This is a joke, right?

[TammieAZ]

Am I missing something, or did all of my posts in this thread just disappear?

 

Mine are gone as well . Apparently I've been a very bad girl . And I've just been told to play nice .   

[Nefla]

If a moderator deleted my posts, they could at least have the decency to tell me why, or let me know at all... what the hell? That's not cool. Why would they delete my posts, most of which were on-topic, and do nothing with the openly bigoted posts, which are blatantly against the forum rules? This is a joke, right?

I don't know, it's freaky. One of the ones that was deleted was just you replying to my post saying you agreed (yet the post you quoted is still here) and a reply to Tammie saying she was being hostile.

[Shechinah]

...

 

Would you mind reposting your character gif? I wanted to save it but I missed the chance to do so.
 

[BansheeOwnage]

Everyone can be confused together!

Mine are gone as well . Apparently I've been a very bad girl . And I've just been told to play nice .   

Did a moderator send you a PM?

 

I don't know, it's freaky. One of the ones that was deleted was just you replying to my post saying you agreed (yet the post you quoted is still here) and a reply to Tammie saying she was being hostile.

Exactly... That post didn't even have a picture and people seemed okay with it... I mean, firstly, explain that you deleted a post, then explain why. Otherwise, how am I supposed to know what I did wrong? And if we're not supposed to post gifs (which I thought we were as long as we had text in the post), why did they single me (and possibly Tammie?) out instead of going around nuking all of the gifs (that don't include text) on the rest of the board? That's just not fair. Ugh, there is so much wrong with this, sorry for ranting.

 

Would you mind reposting your character gif? I wanted to save it but I missed the chance to do so.
 

Sure. Hopefully I don't get banned for it...

 

Seriously, Moderator. Show yourself and explain your reasoning. We were managing fine without your "help".

[BansheeOwnage]

Would you mind reposting your character gif? I wanted to save it but I missed the chance to do so.
 

Disclaimer: This is a post with text. It has been made at the request of another use. K? Thanks.

[Shechinah]

Disclaimer: This is a post with text. It has been made at the request of another use. K? Thanks.

 

Thank you!
 

[TammieAZ]

 

Did a moderator send you a PM?

 

 

 

Yep.

[BansheeOwnage]

Thank you!
 

You're welcome!

 

Yep.

I wonder why they didn't send me one, or show just post in here. Ugh. I'm getting even more fed up with the "moderating" here than I used to be. There is nothing moderate about nuking my posts with no explanation. Come in the thread and talk to us, please. Ironically, you derailed the thread, Mod.

[Mr.House]

You're welcome!

 

I wonder why they didn't send me one, or show just post in here. Ugh. I'm getting even more fed up with the "moderating" here than I used to be. There is nothing moderate about nuking my posts with no explanation. Come in the thread and talk to us, please. Ironically, you derailed the thread, Mod.

I thought the purpose of closing off topic and killing the community was to improve this?

 

Bioware plz

[BansheeOwnage]

I thought the purpose of closing off topic and killing the community was to improve this?

 

Bioware plz

It doesn't help that, clearly, each moderator has their own interpretation of the site-rules that they enforce. How are we supposed to predict that?

 

*sigh* Come on, I was having fun! It seemed like other people were too. No one was complaining about anything I did and as far as I can tell, it wasn't against the site-rules. But of course we can't file grievances, so I'm stuck venting here. Please, tell me, openly in this thread, what I did wrong and cite the forum-rules when you do. Thanks.

 

Edit: Heck, I just remembered one of the posts that was deleted was just me saying thank you and the picture in it was even under a spoiler tag to avoid clogging the thread!

[BansheeOwnage]

I think a mod needs to shut this thread down. It started out with little promise - the OP excerting a random clickbait quote from Steam which for all we know he wrote - and is veering way off topic into a discussion of gay rights and the morality of homosexuality. Add to that the random gifs and image spamming, and you've got your typical forum trash.

 

If you guys want to have a serious dialogue about such issues, how about taking it to private messaging?

Actually it just shows how odd and inconsistent our moderators are. They obviously didn't think the thread itself was off-topic, since they've read it and didn't lock it outright, yet neither did they come in and remind everyone to stay on topic. Of course people are going to discuss gay rights and the morality of homosexuality... it's directly related to of the premise of the thread. And there was hardly image spamming. A couple of gifs, which I have no problem with, since a picture is worth a thousand words, and - what? - a screenshot that I put under spoiler tags? Come on.

 

If you think this is "typical forum trash", why bother even coming here and posting? Why not just ignore the thread and move on? Also, private messages are clunky.

[SwobyJ]

I think a mod needs to shut this thread down. It started out with little promise - the OP excerting a random clickbait quote from Steam which for all we know he wrote - and is veering way off topic into a discussion of gay rights and the morality of homosexuality. Add to that the random gifs and image spamming, and you've got your typical forum trash.

 

If you guys want to have a serious dialogue about such issues, how about taking it to private messaging?

 

I didn't write it, really.

 

Thread can be shut down if mods wish.

[Donk]

I can confirm that the mods are inconsistent.

I fully admit and take responsibility for the fact that I attacked the user TammieAZ, alas, only one of my posts was deleted and was given no warning.

In other circumstances I have been given warning points over pretty much nothing.. For instance, the Andromeda forums, where everybody spammed those "X in Andromeda. Thoughts?" threads. I made one, was given a warning point for spamming yet the other 20 threads of the same were allowed to stay up.

Anyhow, upon reflection these arguments are a waste of time. People believe what they believe.. But there are consequences. Just as somebody said to me, "Just because you hate what somebody may say or think, doesn't mean they don't exist." (in the context of roleplaying) it works both ways. Just because you hate gay and transgender or don't agree, doesn't mean they don't exist and will not change their ways.

I'm not gonna wake up tomorrow, click my fingers and think "I'm straight now!" just because millions of people out there disagree with it and believe it to be a mental illness, Satanic demon possession or lifestyle choice.

If Bioware choose to include bigot roleplaying options, I don't have a problem -- as long as there is consequences. The gay or transgender Npc in question should be able to react accordingly.

Lets look at Solas for a moment, if you get enough disapproval. He makes some racist remarks and you have the option of punching him.

Either way I doubt BW will implement such dialogue. As it is, there is already controversy and complaints about Da:I despite it being "beaten with the PC stick." lesson of the day: doesn't matter what you do, there will always be whinging. On both sides of the fence.

[Nefla]

This thread is haunted by a ghost moderator, I'm scared! Hold me thread!

[Donk]

This thread is haunted by a ghost moderator, I'm scared! Hold me thread!

Not the thread.. The whole BSN!

"For I have seen the throne of the mods.. And it was empty!"